UChicago OCI 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

I think it's risky to cancel until you have an offer. Why not just schedule them in order of your preference then cancel ones once you have a bird in the hand.

They didn't come in that order

[Mal Reynolds]

I think it's risky to cancel until you have an offer. Why not just schedule them in order of your preference then cancel ones once you have a bird in the hand.

They didn't come in that order

Looks like you're gonna be doing some traveling then. I mean callbacks aren't really that strenuous. We have an entire month until classes start.

[Anonymous User]

received 17 callbacks in the same city. at what point is it reasonable for me to book a first class roundtrip ticket?

for your reference:

first class: ~$35/firm
coach: ~$20/firm

Can't find any pertinent information in the NALP guidelines.

user has been warned for trolling a useful on-topic thread. future trolling will result in a ban.

[Mal Reynolds]

Stay classy classmates.

[Crowing]

Stay classy classmates.

Seriously don't troll the OCI thread.

[20141023]

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[Crowing]

received 17 callbacks in the same city. at what point is it reasonable for me to book a first class roundtrip ticket?

for your reference:

first class: ~$35/firm
coach: ~$20/firm

Can't find any pertinent information in the NALP guidelines.

Wow this is written with the kind of sarcasm I usually use on here that is often confused with seriousness.

What that anon wasn't you Reg? Are you sure?

[20141023]

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[JoffreyToffee]

[WheninLaw]

How many callbacks makes someone safe enough to cancel some? I have 9 and want to cancel some.

I would not cancel a CB under any circumstance until I received an offer. You should have held off a bit on scheduling so you could have done them in order of preference. Do what you can to frontload firms you like, then cancel as an offer rolls in.

I had significantly more than that (25+), got an offer, and cancelled almost all of them. You just never know.

[Anonymous User]

Anything people at 0-1 callbacks should be doing other than talking to OCS and mass mailing? Feeling helpless and like I should be doing more, I'm just not sure what.

[Anonymous User]

How many callbacks makes someone safe enough to cancel some? I have 9 and want to cancel some.

I would not cancel a CB under any circumstance until I received an offer. You should have held off a bit on scheduling so you could have done them in order of preference. Do what you can to frontload firms you like, then cancel as an offer rolls in.

I had significantly more than that (25+), got an offer, and cancelled almost all of them. You just never know.

I wish I'd heard this before CB invitations started rolling in. Not the anon who asked above, but have a couple week's worth laid out already and they're almost in reverse preference. Seem to remember OCS saying something about scheduling them quickly to get in the early rounds of hiring...

I presume rescheduling callbacks is out of the question, especially for ones next week?

Also, jesus fuck 25+. Hardly have that many screeners.

[Pulsar]

Eh if there is just maybe one firm that you've realized you don't like, and if you've got KE scholar grades and are moderately good at talking to people (only you know yourself) and are on LR, then cancel it. No sense wasting your time or theirs.

Obvs this advice applies only to a few people (the ones who are very likely safe if they don't get too cocky) but I'm guessing someone with 9 cbs already might be in that group.

[Anonymous User]

Eh if there is just maybe one firm that you've realized you don't like, and if you've got KE scholar grades and are moderately good at talking to people (only you know yourself) and are on LR, then cancel it. No sense wasting your time or theirs.

Obvs this advice applies only to a few people (the ones who are very likely safe if they don't get too cocky) but I'm guessing someone with 9 cbs already might be in that group.

And doesn't canceling help people with 0-2 callbacks? Seems like it's pretty split between people with lots and people with not a lot

[Rahviveh]

Eh if there is just maybe one firm that you've realized you don't like, and if you've got KE scholar grades and are moderately good at talking to people (only you know yourself) and are on LR, then cancel it. No sense wasting your time or theirs.

Obvs this advice applies only to a few people (the ones who are very likely safe if they don't get too cocky) but I'm guessing someone with 9 cbs already might be in that group.

And doesn't canceling help people with 0-2 callbacks? Seems like it's pretty split between people with lots and people with not a lot

That's typical. The top people with LR/KE will get the lions share of the callbacks. People with more middling grades will get 3-4, if that, which is often all you need. But there's no reason to be in a hurry to cancel, if you have great grades like that you will get an offer soon anyways and you can just start canceling then

[Anonymous User]

Eh if there is just maybe one firm that you've realized you don't like, and if you've got KE scholar grades and are moderately good at talking to people (only you know yourself) and are on LR, then cancel it. No sense wasting your time or theirs.

Obvs this advice applies only to a few people (the ones who are very likely safe if they don't get too cocky) but I'm guessing someone with 9 cbs already might be in that group.

And doesn't canceling help people with 0-2 callbacks? Seems like it's pretty split between people with lots and people with not a lot

That's typical. The top people with LR/KE will get the lions share of the callbacks. People with more middling grades will get 3-4, if that, which is often all you need. But there's no reason to be in a hurry to cancel, if you have great grades like that you will get an offer soon anyways and you can just start canceling then

fwiw i know a few people with neither of those credentials with 5+ CBs. e.g., I have ~179

[Pulsar]

Oh I definitely don't mean to imply that everyone who kills oci has great grades or that people without KE grades can't do great. One my friends was at median and got a dozen callbacks. I only added that disclaimer because I do think the amount of caution you exercise w/r/t canceling callbacks should probably track how much reason you have to be cautious (181 person is more likely to convert callbacks (and thus might feel more ok ditching their least favorite one) than 179 person all other things equal).

[Anonymous User]

Oh I definitely don't mean to imply that everyone who kills oci has great grades or that people without KE grades can't do great. One my friends was at median and got a dozen callbacks. I only added that disclaimer because I do think the amount of caution you exercise w/r/t canceling callbacks should probably track how much reason you have to be cautious (181 person is more likely to convert callbacks (and thus might feel more ok ditching their least favorite one) than 179 person all other things equal).

Uh I was above median, sir.

[WheninLaw]

Oh I definitely don't mean to imply that everyone who kills oci has great grades or that people without KE grades can't do great. One my friends was at median and got a dozen callbacks. I only added that disclaimer because I do think the amount of caution you exercise w/r/t canceling callbacks should probably track how much reason you have to be cautious (181 person is more likely to convert callbacks (and thus might feel more ok ditching their least favorite one) than 179 person all other things equal).

Uh I was above median, sir.

jfc what is wrong with 2016

[20141023]

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[Strahilevitz]

Good job guys. Two whole pages of garbage.

Above a certain point, your grades don't matter. Few firms understand our grading system, and even less care about the difference between a 179 and a 180. If you have callbacks, congratulate yourself, sign up for my Trade Secrets class, and get back to work. No one cares if you have 9, 12, or 25 callbacks. You can only have 1 job in the long run, and wherever you work will make you as miserable as the next place. If you don't have any callbacks, keep mass-mailing. To the person above who asked, there is nothing you can do at this point to except mass-mail. If you are impatient, send more applications.

To the student who was removing paper: if you're reading this, I hope you realize you just gave your classmates an excuse to follow up with their screeners.

[Tiny Dancer]

jfc what is wrong with 2016

Hahaha you would love the student who was removing paper from the printer at Booth today so that other students wouldn't be able to print their stuff out in time for their interviews.

Are you sure this is what was happening? I can't believe anyone would be so evil.

[WhiteyCakes]

jfc what is wrong with 2016

Hahaha you would love the student who was removing paper from the printer at Booth today so that other students wouldn't be able to print their stuff out in time for their interviews.

Are you sure this is what was happening? I can't believe anyone would be so evil.

+1. Sounds like rhetorical hyper-bowl from reg

[skers]

It may not have been smart, but I cancelled callbacks from firms I didn't give a fuck about and I definitely wasn't near wheninlaw level. I'd rather not sit through 2-3 hours of bullshit when I'm not at all invested. I get the risk averse thing, but with a decent number of opportunities you'll almost certainly be fine unless there's a personality problem and certain firms (S&C/PW) are pretty much auto offer.

[Anonymous User]

Cravath ding, email, interviewer TC.