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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:09 pm

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Skadden and Ropes. Not really any ties to Chi. I'm from the Midwest, and I sincerely wanted to be there, so I thought that'd be enough. I didn't think I'd be met with so much skepticism. Also, I realize I can't complain with what I got, but I was also really hoping for an office that's HQ'd in Chi. I'll have to see whether that's worth the concern.
Wow, Skadden & Ropes! You got CBs from firms with very high grade cutoffs - you earned them by hard work. Skadden Chi has a high CB offer ration, so there's a good chance you'll end up in Chi. After all you just need one offer :)

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:12 pm

When did you hear from Sidley chicago? Have they made cbs yet?

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:45 pm

Anonymous User wrote:When did you hear from Sidley chicago? Have they made cbs yet?
I didn't, but I'm pretty sure their CB's already went out.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:09 pm

Any news from Weil NY?

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:35 pm

For K&E Chicago, have people gotten dinged? I know CBs have already gone out, but the silence is killing me.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:39 pm

cooley seattle cb. any other seattle? guessing they'll take a while longer than NY/Chicago

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:41 pm

Anybody else just get the weird Foley hold ema?

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:46 pm

I got a foley email yesterday saying that they were still considering me. Is this what you received?

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:cooley seattle cb. any other seattle? guessing they'll take a while longer than NY/Chicago
Ugh, I've been waiting to hear from them. Good thing the interviewer started my screening 10 minutes late.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:02 pm

Jenner and Katten Chi ding a lings today.

lol at the Chicago market

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:11 pm

Just got an email from a NY firm saying that if I'm going to be in NY in September, I should contact recruiting and they'd arrange interviews for me. Is this an invitation or a semi-invitation? A "if you happen to be in the neighborhood stop by but we're not promising anything"?

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Jenner and Katten Chi ding a lings today.

lol at the Chicago market
Have to agree. I bid almost exclusively DC except for 3 Chicago firms. Solid CB % in DC but 0/3 in Chicago so far. I am from the midwest too. Weird.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Druid » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:35 pm

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This one probably isn't you. Chicago is just an impossibly tough market.
This should be set in stone for the next generation that wants to bid all Chi.
I think next year we should make sure it's in OP. Do not bid heavily in Chicago unless you 1) have above a 3.5 and 2) have actually worked or lived in Illinois for an extended period of time. "I'm from the Midwest" are not ties to Chicago, and those firms are going to feast on you if you try it (like I did & others in this thread did).

Not much to be done about it now, but it's worth internalizing so when you guys go on to give advice to next year's 2Ls you'll remember it.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

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scaliaantics wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:3.71
This one probably isn't you. Chicago is just an impossibly tough market.
This should be set in stone for the next generation that wants to bid all Chi.
I think next year we should make sure it's in OP. Do not bid heavily in Chicago unless you 1) have above a 3.5 and 2) have actually worked or lived in Illinois for an extended period of time. "I'm from the Midwest" are not ties to Chicago, and those firms are going to feast on you if you try it (like I did & others in this thread did).

Not much to be done about it now, but it's worth internalizing so when you guys go on to give advice to next year's 2Ls you'll remember it.
Agreed. Spread the word ppl.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:17 pm

Willkie, OMM, Debevoise (all NY) ding.

Has anyone heard back from Steptoe or Sutherland (DC)?

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

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Anonymous User wrote:Willkie, OMM, Debevoise (all NY) ding.

Has anyone heard back from Steptoe or Sutherland (DC)?
Steptoe rejection yesterday by e-mail. No word on Sutherland.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:32 pm

i think we are reading too much into one person's experience. no offense to whoever it is, but *perhaps* he/she interviewed poorly or had subpar work experience/activities, etc. Not saying that's the case, but one person's results are not enough to draw conclusions.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:i think we are reading too much into one person's experience. no offense to whoever it is, but *perhaps* he/she interviewed poorly or had subpar work experience/activities, etc. Not saying that's the case, but one person's results are not enough to draw conclusions.
That same person cleaned up in NY though and had excellent grades.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by woldverine » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just got an email from a NY firm saying that if I'm going to be in NY in September, I should contact recruiting and they'd arrange interviews for me. Is this an invitation or a semi-invitation? A "if you happen to be in the neighborhood stop by but we're not promising anything"?
Yes, that's what it sounds like. A callback can cost the firm, on average, $3k. That doesn't include lost attorney time. What you're probably seeing there is an overcrowded candidate pool. Do you have clear ties to NY in your resume? If you DONT, I would actually take it as a good sign... They might be testing those ties. If you DO, it's sounds like a "we'll interview you if it's free" callback offer.

If you aren't faring well otherwise, I might take it. If you're comfortable, you might call the screener or recruiter and asking what they mean. They'll try to avoid the question, but you might learn something. You can use it as an opportunity to reaffirm your interest and follow up with the screening attorney.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

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Anonymous User wrote:Just got an email from a NY firm saying that if I'm going to be in NY in September, I should contact recruiting and they'd arrange interviews for me. Is this an invitation or a semi-invitation? A "if you happen to be in the neighborhood stop by but we're not promising anything"?
Yes, that's what it sounds like. A callback can cost the firm, on average, $3k. That doesn't include lost attorney time. What you're probably seeing there is an overcrowded candidate pool. Do you have clear ties to NY in your resume? If you DONT, I would actually take it as a good sign... They might be testing those ties. If you DO, it's sounds like a "we'll interview you if it's free" callback offer.

If you aren't faring well otherwise, I might take it. If you're comfortable, you might call the screener or recruiter and asking what they mean. They'll try to avoid the question, but you might learn something. You can use it as an opportunity to reaffirm your interest and follow up with the screening attorney.
Could it be a firm trying to avoid paying for the expenses of a CB? Can they do that?

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I think I will be the victim of the infamous survey invitation and then ding courtesy of Paul Hastings
Anyone have more information on this survey invitation?

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by woldverine » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:10 pm

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woldverine wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just got an email from a NY firm saying that if I'm going to be in NY in September, I should contact recruiting and they'd arrange interviews for me. Is this an invitation or a semi-invitation? A "if you happen to be in the neighborhood stop by but we're not promising anything"?
Yes, that's what it sounds like. A callback can cost the firm, on average, $3k. That doesn't include lost attorney time. What you're probably seeing there is an overcrowded candidate pool. Do you have clear ties to NY in your resume? If you DONT, I would actually take it as a good sign... They might be testing those ties. If you DO, it's sounds like a "we'll interview you if it's free" callback offer.

If you aren't faring well otherwise, I might take it. If you're comfortable, you might call the screener or recruiter and asking what they mean. They'll try to avoid the question, but you might learn something. You can use it as an opportunity to reaffirm your interest and follow up with the screening attorney.
Could it be a firm trying to avoid paying for the expenses of a CB? Can they do that?
It depends on your phrasing, I suppose. Could they base it on expenses? Maybe not. Could they say "we already have 10 good candidates and we like this #11 but only if they're in town?" Probably.

I mean, this not a small firm, right? If it's a small firm, all bets are off. V50, yeah, sounds like a soft callback to me.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by woldverine » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:14 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I think I will be the victim of the infamous survey invitation and then ding courtesy of Paul Hastings
Anyone have more information on this survey invitation?
My firm also does a survey invitation. Applies to all candidates. It's apparently linked to a federal hiring requirement. The results don't go back to us. It's not a sign in either direction.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Druid » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:25 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:i think we are reading too much into one person's experience. no offense to whoever it is, but *perhaps* he/she interviewed poorly or had subpar work experience/activities, etc. Not saying that's the case, but one person's results are not enough to draw conclusions.
That same person cleaned up in NY though and had excellent grades.
And it's not just one person's experience.

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Re: Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!!

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:52 pm

Hogan DC cb

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