Georgetown 2011 OCI Thread Forum

[Anonymous User]

Same poster from above (Top 10, Secondary J). I thought I should add, in the interest of full disclosure and at the risk of outing myself a little, I have geographical connections to the secondary market/chicago firms.

Also, regarding being chosen for screener based on resume: I will say that two of the three DC callbacks I got were based off interviews I did not get through the lottery. Those firms (both V20) seemed to care a little less that I wasn't on main journal. Anyway, maybe that provides some insight into the difficulty of getting DC CBs; i.e., maybe a lot of them went to people on ghost schedules.

[Anonymous User]

Same poster from above (Top 10, Secondary J). I thought I should add, in the interest of full disclosure and at the risk of outing myself a little, I have geographical connections to the secondary market/chicago firms.

Also, regarding being chosen for screener based on resume: I will say that two of the three DC callbacks I got were based off interviews I did not get through the lottery. Those firms (both V20) seemed to care a little less that I wasn't on main journal. Anyway, maybe that provides some insight into the difficulty of getting DC CBs; i.e., maybe a lot of them went to people on ghost schedules.

Had the opposite experience. I was on 4 or 5 DC ghost schedules and got a CB from none of them. Got one CB from an NY ghost schedule.

[Anonymous User]

So has anyone heard literally anything, good or bad, from Ropes NY?

+1. Would love to hear any news, up or down, from Ropes NY. What say you lurkers?

[nycdweller]

in a way, this is turning into something almost depressing. i guess when we go to school with 600 people, there's still plentyof people in the top 15%

What exactly is depressing? Were you hoping only people lower in the class than you would post? If so, then you were not coming to TLS for information, because the experience of people lower in the class would have less relevance to you than the experience of your GPA peers, but instead you were coming to boost your ego.

I understand why it can be "almost depressing." Law school is about haves and have-nots - and this fact is based entirely on numbers. The vast differences in outcomes between those who are top 15% and those who are, say, only top 33% is certainly a bit depressing given that it's based on finest of distinctions - and I say this coming from the happy side of that distinction.

85% struggle/scramble/stress while 15% gloat/coast through the rest of law school. You have to admit that's a bit depressing.

[terribleperson]

in a way, this is turning into something almost depressing. i guess when we go to school with 600 people, there's still plentyof people in the top 15%

What exactly is depressing? Were you hoping only people lower in the class than you would post? If so, then you were not coming to TLS for information, because the experience of people lower in the class would have less relevance to you than the experience of your GPA peers, but instead you were coming to boost your ego.

I understand why it can be "almost depressing." Law school is about haves and have-nots - and this fact is based entirely on numbers. The vast differences in outcomes between those who are top 15% and those who are, say, only top 33% is certainly a bit depressing given that it's based on finest of distinctions - and I say this coming from the happy side of that distinction.

85% struggle/scramble/stress while 15% gloat/coast through the rest of law school. You have to admit that's a bit depressing.

Maybe you're understanding his post better than I am, but I read it as saying that what's depressing is that "there's still plentyof people in the top 15%." Therefore, people outside the top 15% having a tough time isn't what he's complaining about, but rather that he thought he was more exceptional than he really is.

[Anonymous User]

To the poster who got dinged from W&C on a ghost schedule, when/how did that ding occur? Not to be morbid, but I ask because I interviewed there on Tuesday and haven't heard anything either way - though I doubt I can draw anything from that because I interviewed, as a 3L, for a permanent position, and certain things the interviewer said indicated the 3L timetable was far more elongated, esp. if you're applying for clerkships and they don't know what year they'll be getting you.

[Anonymous User]

Top third, secondary journal, no WE. 1/12 on CBs from EIW and still waiting to hear from 2/3 firms I interviewed with back home over the summer.

This process is really frustrating. Apparently I don't interview well, which makes me really nervous for the one CB.

[Anonymous User]

Also (this isn't really related to callbacks, but just wondering), why the hell does GULC do top 10%, top 15%, and top third? What's the usefulness of the 10/15 distinction instead of, for instance, top 10/20? Isn't the 10/15 distinction, like, 0.04 in GPA?

[Anonymous User]

At the risk of adding on to the 15/85 distinction, I imagine that GULC does top 15% instead of top 20% in order to protect the employability of the students with the top grades. Top 15 sounds better than Top 20, and having it fall off from top 15 to top third ensures that the top 15 look significantly more attractive than the next highest cohort (which includes an additional one hundred or so students). And, of course GULC does individual rankings for the students at the very top, which further bolsters their desirability.

That's just a guess I'm floating out there, based on the belief that it wouldn't be good for the school if the top 15% were not highly likely to be employed.

[Anonymous User]

Top 10%, Secondary, WE

17 CB's
12 of them in the V20

[traydeuce]

Actually, though GULC doesn't tell all their students this, they tell everyone inside the top 10% what their precise percentile is. Which is how I know I'm top 1%.

[Anonymous User]

Actually, though GULC doesn't tell all their students this, they tell everyone inside the top 10% what their precise percentile is. Which is how I know I'm top 1%.

I wondered how people knew they were top 7% or whatever. That makes a lot of sense.

[Anonymous User]

Can we get some below-median lurkers to post?

[Anonymous User]

Actually, though GULC doesn't tell all their students this, they tell everyone inside the top 10% what their precise percentile is. Which is how I know I'm top 1%.

What? when and how do they do this? I am top 10%, wasnt informed about any thing like this at all

[Anonymous User]

Are the majority of people who post here top 10%? This is depressing.

I'm somewhere in the middle. 5 callbacks, 2 rejections, waiting on a whole bunch of firms no one seems to have heard from. The 2 rejections were from firms with median GPAs well below mine, which is curious.

[Anonymous User]

Are the majority of people who post here top 10%? This is depressing.

I'm somewhere in the middle. 5 callbacks, 2 rejections, waiting on a whole bunch of firms no one seems to have heard from. The 2 rejections were from firms with median GPAs well below mine, which is curious.

Those of us outside the top 10% are drunk most of the time.

[traydeuce]

Actually, though GULC doesn't tell all their students this, they tell everyone inside the top 10% what their precise percentile is. Which is how I know I'm top 1%.

What? when and how do they do this? I am top 10%, wasnt informed about any thing like this at all

In late July, they sent e-mails and subsequently sent letters by mail. I think the letter by mail was dated 7/27. Now, I'm a 3L, but I know 2Ls who got the same sort of letters at the same time.

[johndhi]

Actually, though GULC doesn't tell all their students this, they tell everyone inside the top 10% what their precise percentile is. Which is how I know I'm top 1%.

False, it goes top third, top 15, top 10, then 5 4 3 2 1.

[Anonymous User]

Can we get some below-median lurkers to post?

Is just about median okay? Secondary Journal. 0 CBs, 7 rejections, still waiting to hear from about half, which I guess means more rejections. I'm surprised and so was my career adviser, especially since I think the interviews went extremely well. Tough couple of weeks.

[Anonymous User]

No one I know median or below - myself included - has a single callback, FWIW. It makes sense that most people who post here are top 33% or better - they have actual info to share, actual callbacks to commiserate about

[Anonymous User]

Ropes NY snail mail ding, dated and sent 8/26.

[Anonymous User]

Just shy of Top 15%, secondary journal, some WE

6 CBs all V50ish firms; still waiting to hear from Ropes and Sutherland (Does anyone have a CB with either?)

[traydeuce]

Actually, though GULC doesn't tell all their students this, they tell everyone inside the top 10% what their precise percentile is. Which is how I know I'm top 1%.

False, it goes top third, top 15, top 10, then 5 4 3 2 1.

I see. That makes sense; you're probably better off doing the "I'm top 10, and who knows how high I may be within the top 10" than saying you're top 9%. Of course, if the firms get anyone in the top 5% they know you're somewhere in the 6th-10th.

[Anonymous User]

Top 33%, Secondary Journal, Barrister's Council: 14 screeners, 4 CBs, 3 rejections... waiting to hear one way or the other from the rest.

FWIW, I know a couple of people below median who have between 2-3 CBs. They each have significant work experience and are charming/friendly. They got some of their CBs late in the game, definitely after others had heard back. NY market.

[Anonymous User]

I feel like lack of WE might be fucking me over. Anyone have advice for that?

edit: I mean addressing it in the two callbacks I do have - obviously it's too late for screeners.