Summer Associate Class of 2016 Forum

[El Pollito]

Some summer came in at 7am today. Associates don't come in til like 930 or 10, and our schedule specifies 915 or 930 for events. Like, what the fuck. The associate who toldo me didn't want to out the associate.

it's good to know which summers will be open to being taken advantage of as first years tbf

[monsterman]

Does anyone else's firm have associates that have been there for like 10 years? There is a longer partner track at my firm but it still is a bit surprising.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone else's firm have associates that have been there for like 10 years? There is a longer partner track at my firm but it still is a bit surprising.

Yes. There's a 12th-year at mine, but I think she took a few years of part-time when she had kids.

Serious question: Are men expected to shave every day? Is once a week preposterous?

[Anonymous User]

Do lunches get less awkward throughout the summer? It sucks that some summers are dead mutes and can't carry a conversation

[Anonymous User]

Do lunches get less awkward throughout the summer? It sucks that some summers are dead mutes and can't carry a conversation

Most likely yes. I am a fairly awkward person myself, and last summer it took me about 2-3 weeks to warm up to my fellow interns / not constantly feel intimidated at my 1L summer job. I'm going to try my best to shorten that length of time for this SA, but it's difficult to overcome your natural aspie tendencies. Give the mutes a little time to adapt, they'll get there eventually.

[Anonymous User]

[quote="Anonymous]

Serious question: Are men expected to shave every day? Is once a week preposterous?[/quote]

with a business casual culture, hopefully it'seems ok not to shave everyday. I'll look at the partners and associates during the first few days to gauge how much they shave and follow accordingly.

[Anonymous User]

Serious question: Are men expected to shave every day? Is once a week preposterous?

with a business casual culture, hopefully it'seems ok not to shave everyday. I'll look at the partners and associates during the first few days to gauge how much they shave and follow accordingly.

I'm going full beard for several reasons, one of which is that half(ish) of the associates in my practice group have beards. If they no-offer me because of facial hair, I'll go somewhere else after my clerkship.

[Anonymous User]

Serious question: Are men expected to shave every day? Is once a week preposterous?

with a business casual culture, hopefully it'seems ok not to shave everyday. I'll look at the partners and associates during the first few days to gauge how much they shave and follow accordingly.

I'm going full beard for several reasons, one of which is that half(ish) of the associates in my practice group have beards. If they no-offer me because of facial hair, I'll go somewhere else after my clerkship.

If they no offer you for any reason, you'll be going somewhere else. Don't blame it on the beard.

[lavarman84]

Serious question: Are men expected to shave every day? Is once a week preposterous?

with a business casual culture, hopefully it'seems ok not to shave everyday. I'll look at the partners and associates during the first few days to gauge how much they shave and follow accordingly.

I'm going full beard for several reasons, one of which is that half(ish) of the associates in my practice group have beards. If they no-offer me because of facial hair, I'll go somewhere else after my clerkship.

Haha, this is exactly how I feel. Having a clerkship is such a great stress reliever. I'm still going to work hard and do good work but I'm not freaking out about the possibility of a no-offer.

[Anonymous User]

[quote="Anonymous]

Serious question: Are men expected to shave every day? Is once a week preposterous?

with a business casual culture, hopefully it'seems ok not to shave everyday. I'll look at the partners and associates during the first few days to gauge how much they shave and follow accordingly.[/quote][/quote]

FWIW, this is dead fracking wrong. You have two options: a fully-grown, well-maintained beard, or shaving every day.

We had a summer who was cold offered a couple of years back, and while I don't want to say that his perpetual 2 day old scruff was responsible, it certainly was a factor. Showed terrible judgement.

PS, there is always some associate who already was told they have six months who gives no fucks and walks around half-shorn. That does not give you a license not to shave. Similarly, there is always some partner who shaves twice a week. Generally, that partner has a $10M book of business and doesn't shave as a way of demonstrating his power. This also does not give you a license not to shave.

TL;DR: shave. Every day. Don't be an idiot.

[Slytherpuff]

Excited to start tomorrow!

[Anonymous User]

Responding to random past things:

My firm has plenty of 10-12 year folks, for one reason or another.
Also, literally everyone in my office had leather messenger bags day one. Weird coincidence? Or right move?

[Anonymous User]

[quote="Anonymous]

Serious question: Are men expected to shave every day? Is once a week preposterous?

with a business casual culture, hopefully it'seems ok not to shave everyday. I'll look at the partners and associates during the first few days to gauge how much they shave and follow accordingly.

[/quote]

FWIW, this is dead fracking wrong. You have two options: a fully-grown, well-maintained beard, or shaving every day.

We had a summer who was cold offered a couple of years back, and while I don't want to say that his perpetual 2 day old scruff was responsible, it certainly was a factor. Showed terrible judgement.

PS, there is always some associate who already was told they have six months who gives no fucks and walks around half-shorn. That does not give you a license not to shave. Similarly, there is always some partner who shaves twice a week. Generally, that partner has a $10M book of business and doesn't shave as a way of demonstrating his power. This also does not give you a license not to shave.

TL;DR: shave. Every day. Don't be an idiot.[/quote][/quote][/quote]
FWIW I find that shaving every other day, or 2 out of 3 is better. It kills my face to shave every day

[EzraFitz]

Didn't mean to be anon ^

[Anonymous User]

I really need some quick advice here, guys, and this topic has been incredibly helpful so far. I start tomorrow, and I'm still going back and forth on whether to shave my balls. Does the firm value the professionalism of a shorn, smooth sack, or would it rather have the billing efficiency of unkempt, gnarled knackers?

[Mono]

I really need some quick advice here, guys, and this topic has been incredibly helpful so far. I start tomorrow, and I'm still going back and forth on whether to shave my balls. Does the firm value the professionalism of a shorn, smooth sack, or would it rather have the billing efficiency of unkempt, gnarled knackers?

Definitely the former. You need to treat this like a ten week interview, and that means being professional in conduct and appearance. You'll have plenty of time to not shave once you've got the offer.

[El Pollito]

We also want our summers to look youthful and like they have the will to live so we can see it get beat out of them as first years. So, shave for now.

[Johann]

We also want our summers to look youthful and like they have the will to live so we can see it get beat out of them as first years. So, shave for now.

[lavarman84]

On the topic of shaving, even when I shave, I have shadow a few hours later...should I just wear a mask of some sort? Would Richard Nixon be considered professional?

[Serett]

On the topic of shaving, even when I shave, I have shadow a few hours later...should I just wear a mask of some sort? Would Richard Nixon be considered professional?

Only if you go to Duke.

[Br3v]

On the topic of shaving, even when I shave, I have shadow a few hours later...should I just wear a mask of some sort? Would Richard Nixon be considered professional?

I'm not sure if this is a flame, but assuming it's not I think that would be too unprofessional. You need to wear a mask that people won't notice, like one of the ones posted below. In the off chance someone notices just act like you don't know what they're talking about.

[El Pollito]

We also want our summers to look youthful and like they have the will to live so we can see it get beat out of them as first years. So, shave for now.

Our summers look so shiny and new and I hate them for it.

[georgej]

Uh oh, I didn't shave my sack. Hopefully nobody notices under this gigantic codpiece I'm sporting for the first day.

[PeanutsNJam]

Okay we've settled you have to shave the sack but what about pits I'm about to leave for my first day in 25 mins help fast

[pancakes3]

why aren't you at your office yet?