School OCI Data Forum

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know anyone from Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, WUSTL, UCLA, or USC that bid in the Midwest-Cali Off-Campus Program for NY/DC (and if so, their results)?

[Anonymous User]

I transferred from WUSTL so will not be able to interview at their fairs, but I got 9 interviews and 1 alt for NY off-campus, 2 in DC (out of 3 bids), and 1 atlanta (out of 1 bid)

[sundevil77]

Dang, WUSTL peeps seem to be getting about 10 interviews a piece. What accounts for the difference between it and a similarly ranked school like Emory? The amount of in-market competition? Or are the differences small enough that we can't really know without understanding the intricacies of the respective markets?

[romothesavior]

Dang, WUSTL peeps seem to be getting about 10 interviews a piece. What accounts for the difference between it and a similarly ranked school like Emory? The amount of in-market competition? Or are the differences small enough that we can't really know without understanding the intricacies of the respective markets?

No, not "apiece." Every person who posted (and all posted anon) are people in at least the top half. Take into account all the people below median who are SOL with OCI, and the average is not 10 each.

And the fact that every person from WUSTL has posted anon and in rapid succession makes it seem a little fishy. I know one of the posters who posted is legit, but I dunno about the rest... Just seems odd that a handful of WUSTL students (who don't post much on TLS, it seems) would all post anon in rapid succession about OCI.

[Anonymous User]

Dang, WUSTL peeps seem to be getting about 10 interviews a piece. What accounts for the difference between it and a similarly ranked school like Emory? The amount of in-market competition? Or are the differences small enough that we can't really know without understanding the intricacies of the respective markets?

the difference is pretty striking. talked to another emory friend today - top 1/3, law review, 2 preselects. i imagine it has something to do with the fact that literally everyone is competing for the twenty-fucking-seven employers at oci.

[Anonymous User]

Bid on 21 of the 30 employers at the first round of OCI. 19 pre-selects. 1 V5, a few V50, a few more V100, and the rest are regional biglaw/midlaw that pay upwards of $110K.

I go to a T2 ranked in the 60's. Top 10% + LR. Needless to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by these results.

[sundevil77]

Bid on 21 of the 30 employers at the first round of OCI. 19 pre-selects. 1 V5, a few V50, a few more V100, and the rest are regional biglaw/midlaw that pay upwards of $110K.

I go to a T2 ranked in the 60's. Top 10% + LR. Needless to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by these results.

I don't think it's surprising that the general trend seen here is that people who are top 1/3 or top 25% are having iffy results, while people that are top 10% are doing reasonably well. Top 10% looks good.

[Anonymous User]

In case anyone is curious, I have been talking to the other students at Duke about their results for segment one. Seems that 50 bids translated to around 15 interviews a piece, give or take for bid order. Two more segments after this, but they are smaller. So maybe tack on another 5 to that number for those segments.

[Anonymous User]

Bid on 21 of the 30 employers at the first round of OCI. 19 pre-selects. 1 V5, a few V50, a few more V100, and the rest are regional biglaw/midlaw that pay upwards of $110K.

I go to a T2 ranked in the 60's. Top 10% + LR. Needless to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by these results.

I don't think it's surprising that the general trend seen here is that people who are top 1/3 or top 25% are having iffy results, while people that are top 10% are doing reasonably well. Top 10% looks good.

Anon poster from above: Top 10% looks good, but given that BU+LR = 5-15 preselects, I'm quite happy with 19 pre-selects from biglaw-ish employers.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know anyone from Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, WUSTL, UCLA, or USC that bid in the Midwest-Cali Off-Campus Program for NY/DC (and if so, their results)?

From one of the above-mentioned schools, top 1/3, 2nd journal, got 2 preselects from 3 NY bids, and 2 preselects from 5 bids. But I bid really conservatively and made sure I met their requirements.

[Anonymous User]

Bid on 21 of the 30 employers at the first round of OCI. 19 pre-selects. 1 V5, a few V50, a few more V100, and the rest are regional biglaw/midlaw that pay upwards of $110K.

I go to a T2 ranked in the 60's. Top 10% + LR. Needless to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by these results.

Very similar situation, T50, similar results.

[sundevil77]

Bid on 21 of the 30 employers at the first round of OCI. 19 pre-selects. 1 V5, a few V50, a few more V100, and the rest are regional biglaw/midlaw that pay upwards of $110K.

I go to a T2 ranked in the 60's. Top 10% + LR. Needless to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by these results.

Very similar situation, T50, similar results.

Do you mind telling us the school?

[Anonymous User]

Bid on 21 of the 30 employers at the first round of OCI. 19 pre-selects. 1 V5, a few V50, a few more V100, and the rest are regional biglaw/midlaw that pay upwards of $110K.

I go to a T2 ranked in the 60's. Top 10% + LR. Needless to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by these results.

Very similar situation, T50, similar results.

Do you mind telling us the school?

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[Kohinoor]

In case anyone is curious, I have been talking to the other students at Duke about their results for segment one. Seems that 50 bids translated to around 15 interviews a piece, give or take for bid order. Two more segments after this, but they are smaller. So maybe tack on another 5 to that number for those segments.

Isn't Duke lottery? Seems low.

[Anonymous User]

In case anyone is curious, I have been talking to the other students at Duke about their results for segment one. Seems that 50 bids translated to around 15 interviews a piece, give or take for bid order. Two more segments after this, but they are smaller. So maybe tack on another 5 to that number for those segments.

Isn't Duke lottery? Seems low.

Different Duke poster. 15 as average sounds about right. I have a few more, I know others with less.

I think the way the bids and times were set up getting more than around 20 would be quite difficult.

[Kohinoor]

In case anyone is curious, I have been talking to the other students at Duke about their results for segment one. Seems that 50 bids translated to around 15 interviews a piece, give or take for bid order. Two more segments after this, but they are smaller. So maybe tack on another 5 to that number for those segments.

Isn't Duke lottery? Seems low.

Different Duke poster. 15 as average sounds about right. I have a few more, I know others with less.

I think the way the bids and times were set up getting more than around 20 would be quite difficult.

Meh. Still blows UVA out of the water. We're sitting at 9 on average.

[Anonymous User]

In case anyone is curious, I have been talking to the other students at Duke about their results for segment one. Seems that 50 bids translated to around 15 interviews a piece, give or take for bid order. Two more segments after this, but they are smaller. So maybe tack on another 5 to that number for those segments.

Isn't Duke lottery? Seems low.

Different Duke poster. 15 as average sounds about right. I have a few more, I know others with less.

I think the way the bids and times were set up getting more than around 20 would be quite difficult.

Meh. Still blows UVA out of the water. We're sitting at 9 on average.

All you have to do is add up the interview rooms and divide by the student body. If every 1L participates in OGI, there will be ~16-17 interviews per person at OGI. Who knows how The Don calculated that 9 number, but based on conversations I have had with career services I strong believe the "9 pre-selects" number meant just that - roughly 9 non-top 5 and non-lottery interviews per person.

[98234872348]

In case anyone is curious, I have been talking to the other students at Duke about their results for segment one. Seems that 50 bids translated to around 15 interviews a piece, give or take for bid order. Two more segments after this, but they are smaller. So maybe tack on another 5 to that number for those segments.

Isn't Duke lottery? Seems low.

Different Duke poster. 15 as average sounds about right. I have a few more, I know others with less.

I think the way the bids and times were set up getting more than around 20 would be quite difficult.

Meh. Still blows UVA out of the water. We're sitting at 9 on average.

So a median student at UVA is looking at 9 interviews?

[Anonymous User]

So a median student at UVA is looking at 9 interviews?

No.

A UVA student, on average, will get 16-17 interviews. We know this because of math.

Students at median at UVA will have wide, wide variance in interviews based on their non-grade stats (that help or hurt pre-selects), the markets they bid on and their ties to those markets, and the popularity of those firms.

I've heard of a person a bit below median getting 3 preselects, I've heard of a person at median getting more than 12. It varies a lot.

Also, we haven't had our lottery or some of our alternate picks yet, so the data you see are quite preliminary.

[hi_im_josh]

Shitlaw: (1) Practice area definition: practices such as domestic relations, insurance defense, personal injury, etc.;

Not sure why these are "shitlaw" necessarily. Depends a lot on the firm.

Which is why I said "ambulance chaser" instead of "personal injury." A lot of really good firms do some personal injury stuff, especially in smaller markets. But they don't go around handing out buisness cards in hospitals and working the bare minimum on as many cases as they can in the hopes that one will pan out big for them.

If your clients aren't major corporations, you're probably in shitlaw hell.

[lawschoollll]

Shitlaw: (1) Practice area definition: practices such as domestic relations, insurance defense, personal injury, etc.;

Not sure why these are "shitlaw" necessarily. Depends a lot on the firm.

Which is why I said "ambulance chaser" instead of "personal injury." A lot of really good firms do some personal injury stuff, especially in smaller markets. But they don't go around handing out buisness cards in hospitals and working the bare minimum on as many cases as they can in the hopes that one will pan out big for them.

If your clients aren't major corporations, you're probably in shitlaw hell.

Why is insurance defense typically considered shitlaw? Just curious.

[showNprove]

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[Anonymous User]

NYU gave me 50 bids and I got 29 screening interviews out of them last year. Pretty awesome.

[Anonymous User]

NYU gave me 50 bids and I got 29 screening interviews out of them last year. Pretty awesome.

Class rank? # of callbacks? # of offers?