Columbia EIP 2016 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Davis Polk (WM); Simpson (JM); Paul Weiss (SW); Cleary (JK); White & Case (JO); Sidley (GM & RR)

Do you mind sharing when/how you heard back from Sidley (GM & RR)?

[Anonymous User]

It's so depressing to see some people having a CB extravaganza while others like me have heard nothing.

[Anonymous User]

It's so depressing to see some people having a CB extravaganza while others like me have heard nothing.

I'm in the same boat You are def not a lone.

[GoneSouth]

I am interested in a specialty area in a secondary market. I had one interviewer say something to the effect of "you should talk to our partners in that area when you are out there for callbacks."

What is that supposed to mean? Am I supposed to mass-mail these partners or something? Seems kind of weird for a screener to tell me this.

When you set up your callback, tell recruiting that your screener suggested you meet with some of those partners, and they will set it up for you

[Anonymous User]

When doing callbacks with multiple firms in a non-NY market, is it expected to do two in a day to cut down on hotel costs? What's the protocol here?

[Anonymous User]

I'm 3 CB out of 9 interviews, mid-stone, I'd consider myself a personable guy who interviews well. If you're really concerned, reach out to OCS, but it's still early in the process so I don't think any of us should be worrying this much.

Dude, the process is basically half over! If the above is true info, you should be walking through your interviewing TODAY to fix whatever you are doing wrong. Use anyone who is willing to help you. I would not want to show up on Monday keeping up what you are doing!

[Anonymous User]

I think it's totally fine to have no callbacks at this point. When I get down, I just think about the fact that in ancient Aztec society, all these people that you're seeing get a lot of callbacks would be sacrificed to the gods for their intellectual superiority. So really, is it worth a couple of measly job offers?

[Anonymous User]

*Olmecs

[Anonymous User]

No, actually, it was the Aztecs. Please see attached link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sac ... ec_culture
I hope for your sake that none of your interviewers ask you about the religious practices of pre-Columbian Mesoamerican cultures.

[Anonymous User]

No, actually, it was the Aztecs. Please see attached link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sac ... ec_culture
I hope for your sake that none of your interviewers ask you about the religious practices of pre-Columbian Mesoamerican cultures.

So much for avoiding the sacrifice for intellectual superiority.

[MCFC]

I do not want to panic people; you all are probably going to be fine. That said, I would not rely on these two pieces of advice.

From what I understand, there should be another round of callback invites after the NYU interviews this week, and there will be additional callback invites coming even after that (though not a ton). It is very possible that you will get some callbacks from those 17 interviews.

Caveat: not an expert -- just relaying what 2Ls/3Ls told me.

it's still early in the process so I don't think any of us should be worrying this much.

Take some time and do some mailing.

[Anonymous User]

had 17 interviews and not a single callback. Really not sure what to do at this point... the very idea that people are getting 75% of their screeners back is just unimaginable. My grades are mid-stone.

It appears as though some firms have not gotten back to anyone yet, and some have only hit up their top candidates. From what I understand, there should be another round of callback invites after the NYU interviews this week, and there will be additional callback invites coming even after that (though not a ton). It is very possible that you will get some callbacks from those 17 interviews.

Caveat: not an expert -- just relaying what 2Ls/3Ls told me.

This is objectively awful advice. If you've had 17 interviews with 0 callbacks so far you are a very weak candidate for whatever reason. You should not be complacent. Hustle and mass mail.

[Anonymous User]

Any chance more calls are coming today, or is it done til Monday?

[Anonymous User]

I do not want to panic people; you all are probably going to be fine. That said, I would not rely on these two pieces of advice.

From what I understand, there should be another round of callback invites after the NYU interviews this week, and there will be additional callback invites coming even after that (though not a ton). It is very possible that you will get some callbacks from those 17 interviews.

Caveat: not an expert -- just relaying what 2Ls/3Ls told me.

it's still early in the process so I don't think any of us should be worrying this much.

Take some time and do some mailing.

Class of 2017 here. MAIL. Don't assume the callbacks are coming. I did 24 screeners at EIP. I got zero callbacks. Zero. Do not wait to apply elsewhere; when you come back home Tuesday night you should be looking for other ways to reach out. Even if you have a callback or two, start reaching out.

[Anonymous User]

I do not want to panic people; you all are probably going to be fine. That said, I would not rely on these two pieces of advice.

From what I understand, there should be another round of callback invites after the NYU interviews this week, and there will be additional callback invites coming even after that (though not a ton). It is very possible that you will get some callbacks from those 17 interviews.

Caveat: not an expert -- just relaying what 2Ls/3Ls told me.

it's still early in the process so I don't think any of us should be worrying this much.

Take some time and do some mailing.

Class of 2017 here. MAIL. Don't assume the callbacks are coming. I did 24 screeners at EIP. I got zero callbacks. Zero. Do not wait to apply elsewhere; when you come back home Tuesday night you should be looking for other ways to reach out. Even if you have a callback or two, start reaching out.

I'm hearing mixed messages. Some 2Ls warn of no callbacks, but others say they had no CBs and jumped after the weekend to an average amount. Is it random, somewhat GPA correlated, or is it just too early too tell?

[Anonymous User]

I do not want to panic people; you all are probably going to be fine. That said, I would not rely on these two pieces of advice.

From what I understand, there should be another round of callback invites after the NYU interviews this week, and there will be additional callback invites coming even after that (though not a ton). It is very possible that you will get some callbacks from those 17 interviews.

Caveat: not an expert -- just relaying what 2Ls/3Ls told me.

it's still early in the process so I don't think any of us should be worrying this much.

Take some time and do some mailing.

Class of 2017 here. MAIL. Don't assume the callbacks are coming. I did 24 screeners at EIP. I got zero callbacks. Zero. Do not wait to apply elsewhere; when you come back home Tuesday night you should be looking for other ways to reach out. Even if you have a callback or two, start reaching out.

Mind telling us what wound up happening to you? Did you manage to get a firm gig after EIP? Did other people in your situation manage to? Were there people who truly struck out from firms completely?

Right now the world after EIP seems like a mysterious black box.

[MCFC]

I'm hearing mixed messages. Some 2Ls warn of no callbacks, but others say they had no CBs and jumped after the weekend to an average amount. Is it random, somewhat GPA correlated, or is it just too early too tell?

Sure, it's possible some firms you haven't heard from will get back to you with callbacks. I hope that they do. But every year people trot out these stories of waiting lists, of firms that will give out more callbacks that will come out after NYU interviews, and so on. Or people who go to OCS and OCS tells them not to worry, it's early.

You shouldn't be freaking out, but you should take the attitude that firms you haven't heard from while your classmates have are probably dings.

If you mail and it turns out you didn't need to, you've lost two hours of free time. If you don't mail and it turns out you needed to, you are in pretty rough shape.

[Anonymous User]

Davis Polk (WM); Simpson (JM); Paul Weiss (SW); Cleary (JK); White & Case (JO); Sidley (GM & RR)

Do you mind sharing when/how you heard back from Sidley (GM & RR)?

Also very interested in this

[Anonymous User]

I'm hearing mixed messages. Some 2Ls warn of no callbacks, but others say they had no CBs and jumped after the weekend to an average amount. Is it random, somewhat GPA correlated, or is it just too early too tell?

Sure, it's possible some firms you haven't heard from will get back to you with callbacks. I hope that they do. But every year people trot out these stories of waiting lists, of firms that will give out more callbacks that will come out after NYU interviews, and so on. Or people who go to OCS and OCS tells them not to worry, it's early.

You shouldn't be freaking out, but you should take the attitude that firms you haven't heard from while your classmates have are probably dings.

If you mail and it turns out you didn't need to, you've lost two hours of free time. If you don't mail and it turns out you needed to, you are in pretty rough shape.

For mass mailing for NYC firms, what firms should you be attempting to target, if through EIP you have been interviewing with an array from top to V40 firms

[Anonymous User]

had 17 interviews and not a single callback. Really not sure what to do at this point... the very idea that people are getting 75% of their screeners back is just unimaginable. My grades are mid-stone.

It appears as though some firms have not gotten back to anyone yet, and some have only hit up their top candidates. From what I understand, there should be another round of callback invites after the NYU interviews this week, and there will be additional callback invites coming even after that (though not a ton). It is very possible that you will get some callbacks from those 17 interviews.

Caveat: not an expert -- just relaying what 2Ls/3Ls told me.

This is objectively awful advice. If you've had 17 interviews with 0 callbacks so far you are a very weak candidate for whatever reason. You should not be complacent. Hustle and mass mail.

I never said that the person should not change what they were doing or that they don't need to hustle. I just noted that some of those 17 might turn into callbacks later on, which is what I was told by rising 3Ls. Nothing more.

[MCFC]

For mass mailing for NYC firms, what firms should you be attempting to target, if through EIP you have been interviewing with an array from top to V40 firms

I really wouldn't be too picky. Any NYC firm listed on NALP with a summer program of any size should probably be on your list.

[Anonymous User]

I am interested in a specialty area in a secondary market. I had one interviewer say something to the effect of "you should talk to our partners in that area when you are out there for callbacks."

What is that supposed to mean? Am I supposed to mass-mail these partners or something? Seems kind of weird for a screener to tell me this.

When you set up your callback, tell recruiting that your screener suggested you meet with some of those partners, and they will set it up for you

interesting... he almost made it sound like I should talk to them while I'm out there for other callbacks.

Who knows, I haven't heard from them so whatever.

[Anonymous User]

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[pa1901]

When doing callbacks with multiple firms in a non-NY market, is it expected to do two in a day to cut down on hotel costs? What's the protocol here?

Hell no you're not expected to do two a days. You will be expected to try and set them up for consecutive days if you want your host firm to book more than a 2 night block at the hotel they put you up in. But nobody expects you to have more than one in a day

[EIPeaceOut]

Have people heard back from either Kirkland DC or Sidley DC?