GULC 2012 EIW Forum

[Anonymous User]

Things are okay, I think. Not too much chatter about it, but I think that it's somewhat a timing issue. As the days go by, people seem less panicked and frustrated. Hoping that everything works out soon so that we can go back to having fun...or whatever we did last year

--Betty Boop

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank: Top 15%
Journal: Secondary
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: N/A
IP background: No
Significant work experience: Paralegal while in law school.
Years out of undergrad: 1
Prestigious undergrad: No, but D.C. area.
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military): Evening student, full time job.
Target markets: DC/NY
Type of work sought: Litigation/Compliance
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Normal/Below Normal
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from mass-mailing: 2 through contacts at work -- both turned into offers.
Screeners received for EIW: 23
Callbacks received from EIW screeners: 14
Offers received: 4 D.C. (V30, V60, V80 [top D.C. ranked firm], NLJ250), 1 NYC (V40). Dings from 5 other callbacks. Accepted the V30 in D.C. and turned down 4 other NYC callbacks.

[Anonymous User]

How are people doing? How are your friends doing?

Are things positive or negative?

I am still at 0 offers. Waiting to hear from two firms post-CB still, have two midlaw interviews next week for insanely below market pay, have received a lot of replies via mass mailing that summer programs are full. I keep reading about people with so-so stats picking up screeners and CBs through mass mailing big law late in the game, but it appears big law hates my resume because those same firms quickly reject me.

[Anonymous User]

Mass mailing? Who? How?

Please PM.

[Anonymous User]

Mass mailing? Who? How?

Please PM.

Probably going to be hard for anyone to PM an anonymous poster... Just saying.

[Anonymous User]

6 CBs and only one offer, but it was a top choice for me in nyc.
Below median. This was brutal and the first time I ever experienced so many rejections.
Good luck to all.

[KG-2341]

Mass mailing? Who? How?

Please PM.

Probably going to be hard for anyone to PM an anonymous poster... Just saying.

Problem solved. Could those in the know, please PM me how and who to "Mass Mail."

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone here heard anything or received offers from Hogan Baltimore or Brown Rudnick DC?

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank: Below median
Journal: Secondary
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: None
IP backbround: No
Significant work experience: No
Years out of undergrad: 2
Prestigious undergrad: Locally
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military): None
Target markets: NY
Type of work sought: Doesn't matter
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Good
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from mass-mailing: 0
Screeners received for EIW: 20
Callbacks received from EIW screeners: 2
Offers received: 0

Officially out of the game as of yesterday

[Anonymous User]

How are people doing? How are your friends doing?

Are things positive or negative?

Most people I know have offers. At least 75% of my friends, not counting those who want to go PI.

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank: median
Journal: Secondary
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: None
IP backbround: No
Significant work experience: yes. not law related, but 5+ years of work experience.
Years out of undergrad: 6 before coming to law school
Prestigious undergrad: Private, not highly ranked
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military): URM, unique prior life experience
Target markets: DC, Dallas
Type of work sought: N/A
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Good
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from mass-mailing: 2
Screeners received for EIW: 17
Callbacks received from EIW screeners: 6 (received 8 callbacks overall, did 6 callbacks, turned down 2)
Offers received: 6 (1 from OTIP, 4 EIW, 1 mass mailing/ 2 in DC, 4 in Dallas)

Accepted two offers in Dallas (splitting between two firms)

[Anonymous User]

Out of my section, of the 30-35 I know about, 23-25 offers. Of course, self-selecting, right... those with are more likely to find a way to let you know.

[Anonymous User]

This thread has become depressing for my offerless self. MUST. NEVER. RETURN.

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank: Transfer
Journal: None
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: None
IP backbround: No
Significant work experience: No
Years out of undergrad: K-JD
Prestigious undergrad: Yes
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military): None
Target markets: NY, DC
Type of work sought: Doesn't matter
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Good
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from mass-mailing: 0
Screeners received for EIW: 18
Callbacks received from EIW screeners: 13
Offers received: 4

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank: median
Journal: secondary
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: One of them : D
IP backbround: No
Significant work experience: yes
Years out of undergrad: 3
Prestigious undergrad: no
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military):urm
Target markets: DC
Type of work sought: big law
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Good
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from mass-mailing: 0
Screeners received for EIW: 8
Callbacks received from EIW screeners: 0
Job Fair screeners: 12
Callbacks received from Job Fairs: 3
Massmailings/OCS screeners: 1
Callbacks post EIW: 1
Offers received: 1

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank: Transfer
Journal: None
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: None
IP backbround: No
Significant work experience: No
Years out of undergrad: K-JD
Prestigious undergrad: Yes
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military): None
Target markets: NY, DC
Type of work sought: Doesn't matter
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Good
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from mass-mailing: 0
Screeners received for EIW: 18
Callbacks received from EIW screeners: 13
Offers received: 4

Can you elaborate/speculate on why you were so successful? Stats/previous school? Thanks!

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank: Transfer
Journal: None
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: None
IP backbround: No
Significant work experience: No
Years out of undergrad: K-JD
Prestigious undergrad: Yes
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military): None
Target markets: NY, DC
Type of work sought: Doesn't matter
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Good
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from mass-mailing: 0
Screeners received for EIW: 18
Callbacks received from EIW screeners: 13
Offers received: 4

Can you elaborate/speculate on why you were so successful? Stats/previous school? Thanks!

I mean I struck out on 9 callbacks so I'm hesitant to say I was successful. I experienced success, but I was very frustrated by the process. I digress into semantics. I just bid strategically for firms with no mention of journals in their EIW description and also didn't exclude the secondary market that I used to live in. Other than that, I guess probably because I was able to show good grades from my first year of LS and because I did a lot of community service and internships during UG. PM me if you any more info (if that's an option on anonymous)

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank: Transfer
Journal: None
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: None
IP backbround: No
Significant work experience: No
Years out of undergrad: K-JD
Prestigious undergrad: Yes
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military): None
Target markets: NY, DC
Type of work sought: Doesn't matter
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Good
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from mass-mailing: 0
Screeners received for EIW: 18
Callbacks received from EIW screeners: 13
Offers received: 4

Can you elaborate/speculate on why you were so successful? Stats/previous school? Thanks!

I mean I struck out on 9 callbacks so I'm hesitant to say I was successful. I experienced success, but I was very frustrated by the process. I digress into semantics. I just bid strategically for firms with no mention of journals in their EIW description and also didn't exclude the secondary market that I used to live in. Other than that, I guess probably because I was able to show good grades from my first year of LS and because I did a lot of community service and internships during UG. PM me if you any more info (if that's an option on anonymous)

What was your approximate previous school/rank?

[Anonymous User]

Approximate class rank:median-ish, but probably below median
Journal: None
Moot Court, Beaudry, etc.: None
IP backbround: No
Significant work experience: No
Years out of undergrad: Went straight to gulc from undergrad
Prestigious undergrad: Yes, very high GPA from an Ivy
Other relevant factors (e.g., URM, LBGT, age/prior life experience, military): sort of URM (some may, some may not consider me to be urm)
Target markets: NYC, Philly area
Type of work sought: Anything, preference for lit
Self-assessed interviewing ability: Good (came well prepared to the interviews)
Screeners or callbacks prior to EIW from resume drop:2
Screeners received for EIW: 20
Callbacks received from EIW screeners:5
Offers:1 (from EIW)
Offers accepted: 1

[Anonymous User]

Any idea how IPer's are doing, particularly those with median/below median grades?

[Anonymous User]

So I haven't heard back from 2 of my EIW firms. When does it go from a bit overdue to downright rude?

[Anonymous User]

So I haven't heard back from 2 of my EIW firms. When does it go from a bit overdue to downright rude?

Same thing here. I sent followup emails a week ago. Heard from one, not the other. Planning to give them a call next week if I don't hear back.

[Anonymous User]

So I haven't heard back from 2 of my EIW firms. When does it go from a bit overdue to downright rude?

Same thing here. I sent followup emails a week ago. Heard from one, not the other. Planning to give them a call next week if I don't hear back.

Depends, I think. Were these CB firms or just EIW screeners? If they were screeners, don't hold your breath on ever hearing back. If they were CBs, I would think you'd hear back fairly soon as places wrap up their summer class selection and realize if they're getting the right yield or not.

On a separate note, I'm mildly curious about the value of journals at GULC overall. For anyone on any journal, would you say that most of your cohort has a summer gig already or are people still looking or not interested in firms?

[Anonymous User]

So I haven't heard back from 2 of my EIW firms. When does it go from a bit overdue to downright rude?

Same thing here. I sent followup emails a week ago. Heard from one, not the other. Planning to give them a call next week if I don't hear back.

Depends, I think. Were these CB firms or just EIW screeners? If they were screeners, don't hold your breath on ever hearing back. If they were CBs, I would think you'd hear back fairly soon as places wrap up their summer class selection and realize if they're getting the right yield or not.

On a separate note, I'm mildly curious about the value of journals at GULC overall. For anyone on any journal, would you say that most of your cohort has a summer gig already or are people still looking or not interested in firms?

Poster who sent emails here. They were both EIW screeners. I expected they'd both be rejections, but frankly I found it rude not to let me know my results. Given they're not hiring me anyways, why not follow up? As to your other question, I'm on main journal and I struck out, but from what I can tell I'm the exception.

[Anonymous User]

So I haven't heard back from 2 of my EIW firms. When does it go from a bit overdue to downright rude?

Same thing here. I sent followup emails a week ago. Heard from one, not the other. Planning to give them a call next week if I don't hear back.

Depends, I think. Were these CB firms or just EIW screeners? If they were screeners, don't hold your breath on ever hearing back. If they were CBs, I would think you'd hear back fairly soon as places wrap up their summer class selection and realize if they're getting the right yield or not.

On a separate note, I'm mildly curious about the value of journals at GULC overall. For anyone on any journal, would you say that most of your cohort has a summer gig already or are people still looking or not interested in firms?

Poster who sent emails here. They were both EIW screeners. I expected they'd both be rejections, but frankly I found it rude not to let me know my results. Given they're not hiring me anyways, why not follow up? As to your other question, I'm on main journal and I struck out, but from what I can tell I'm the exception.

I'm on main journal too and struck out. Got offers from really small firms but opted for govt instead.