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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:44 pm

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I am still confused by the anxiety here. The outcome is inevitable except on the margins, and unless people are about to get kneecapped for outstanding loan shark debt, why not just let the system play out, as it obviously will, and just focus on things actually within one's control?
Who here is anxious? The point is DPW looks sloppy and amateurish right now (and the rest of the V10 for that matter), not that people are breathing into paper bags over this.

Does it surprise me? Not really. Many law firms are run by people who would be laughed out of the C-Suite of an F100 company.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:45 pm

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Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:41 pm
I am still confused by the anxiety here. The outcome is inevitable except on the margins, and unless people are about to get kneecapped for outstanding loan shark debt, why not just let the system play out, as it obviously will, and just focus on things actually within one's control?
we are here to be cheerleaders - it's like betting on horseracing and we all took the DPW -150 line

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by cornerstone » Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:47 pm

Well this is getting tense. Probably cuz everyone's on edge waiting for DPW to do what DPW does.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anon-non-anon » Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:08 pm

I'm really fucking anxious guys. I'm really worried about the lobster.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:10 pm

cornerstone wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:47 pm
Well this is getting tense. Probably cuz everyone's on edge waiting for DPW to do what DPW does.
Honestly I think we are all just bored despite the mountains of work. The trolling seems to be at least partially in jest.

Anyhow, I'm just thankful that we're not on reddit and can avoid the "it's getting tense in here... Look at a few pictures of my dog Lola! Everyone share your pets :D" bullshit.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:12 pm

DPW has a town hall on Thursday, I think to discuss mostly RTO stuff. If RTO plan is 7/10 business days, as they announced last summer, maybe they'll come over the top Tuesday/Wednesday to blunt any blow back.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

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DPW has a town hall on Thursday, I think to discuss mostly RTO stuff. If RTO plan is 7/10 business days, as they announced last summer, maybe they'll come over the top Tuesday/Wednesday to blunt any blow back.
But I thought that "tOdAy Is ThE dAy" and if it's not DPW is banished from the V10 for seven generations??!!

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 2:45 pm

ExpOriental wrote:
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I’m saying, from actually dealing with lateral recruiting as opposed to just being a loudmouth on an Internet forum, that our prospective pool is absolutely plugged into which firms are growing and doling out compensation and it’s a plus factor as they see it as a sign of the firm on a growth trajectory beyond just amlaw figures which can be juiced.

Hope that fucking helps.
It might help if it made a lick of sense. If your imposition is that lateral candidates perceive NRF as "growing" and DPW and Kirkland as "not-growing" because the former has already matched and the latter have not... do I need to go further? Do you really want to stick to the "juiced AmLaw numbers" line?
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He's obviously trolling. For most people, we know they'll match and TLS is a fun distraction where we can bitch throughout otherwise miserable days. In the event that he is actually as insufferable as he's projecting, LOL.
I am both trolling and genuinely making fun of people who pearl-clutch over this shit.

The only thing I'm deadly serious about is being born a partner. Partner mindset, sigma grindset.
Honestly, at this point - I'm feeling pretty Republican about these raises. I'd probably get more enjoyment watching the collective meltdown of everyone on this thread about not getting raises than any enjoyment I can derive out of $5k post-taxes from the raise.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by tlsguy2020 » Mon Feb 07, 2022 2:56 pm

Would love to see DPW announce pay cuts back down to the 190 scale. Really fuck up the market

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:25 pm

tlsguy2020 wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 2:56 pm
Would love to see DPW announce pay cuts back down to the 190 scale. Really fuck up the market
just lol'd

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:46 pm

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My very scientific analysis of DPW announcement times (ET), based on ATL and TLS posts:
  • Sept. 2020 special bonuses: 1:48 PM
  • Mar. 2021 special bonuses: 9:00 AM
  • June 2021 re-raise: 11:00 AM
  • Dec. 2021 EOY bonuses: 9:50 AM
Guess we're doomed.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Wanderingdrock » Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:46 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:53 am
My very scientific analysis of DPW announcement times (ET), based on ATL and TLS posts:
  • Sept. 2020 special bonuses: 1:48 PM
  • Mar. 2021 special bonuses: 9:00 AM
  • June 2021 re-raise: 11:00 AM
  • Dec. 2021 EOY bonuses: 9:50 AM
Guess we're doomed.
You have to adjust for inflation

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by AureliusCapital » Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:06 pm

At this point I don't even care anymore

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:22 pm

AureliusCapital wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:06 pm
At this point I don't even care anymore
**DPW partnership spinning in their chairs, shouting "We did it!"**

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:50 pm

AureliusCapital wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:06 pm
At this point I don't even care anymore

I'm feeling the same way, and there is really something to be said about firms moving quickly enough to keeps associates excited/motivated. If DPW/Cravath doesn't materially raise the bar here by upping the salary hikes or announcing special bonuses, my reaction is essentially going to be: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:06 pm

This is starting to seem absurd. At what point does a trusted senior associate at DPW that's also on TLS just reach out to Neil directly and ask him when he's planning to say something.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:36 pm

Trusted senior associates don’t typically immediately disclose that info on a public forum.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

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Trusted senior associates don’t typically immediately disclose that info on a public forum.
You don't become a trusted senior associate asking stupid questions to the managing partner like the above.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:56 pm

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Trusted senior associates don’t typically immediately disclose that info on a public forum.
You don't become a trusted senior associate asking stupid questions to the managing partner like the above.
who knows if it is not for just such a time that you reached this position

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:45 pm

Might be a good time for some sackcloth, ashes and fasting...

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:12 pm

At this point they'll have to end up re raising right? Waiting this long to simply match is bad for morale and it's pointless.

Let's also not act like the people posting on here are the only ones that care about this. Several of my peers that aren't familiar with TLS or haven't been on it since law school have discussions about why everyone has been silent. Virtually everyone is plugged into Above the law.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:47 pm

We have been waiting this long because they are raising first years too 300K. You heard it here first, folks.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:52 pm

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At this point they'll have to end up re raising right? Waiting this long to simply match is bad for morale and it's pointless.

Let's also not act like the people posting on here are the only ones that care about this. Several of my peers that aren't familiar with TLS or haven't been on it since law school have discussions about why everyone has been silent. Virtually everyone is plugged into Above the law.
I'm not quite as cynical about this as some people in this thread... but even so, I think if they all just re-match and true us up most people will forgive and forget this interim period.

On the other hand, if CSM were to match and then get beat by DPW, I think more people would remember that.

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Re: Milbank Scale: NYC to 215K - 385K

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