NU OCI 2013/The Great Jerb Hunt Forum

[09042014]

Obviously firms do a bajillion screeners for each open SA slot, but is there any estimate on how many callbacks is typical per opening? (Basically, what are your odds if you manage to snag a CB?)

ETA: I know that's impossible to answer precisely and it shouldn't matter anyway for effort put forth. But I'm curious.

ETA2: And did the great debate finally settle on a thank-you via email, rather than handwritten, for a screener?

1. No one knows. Some firms have a 2:1 CB to offer ration, some have a 10:1, totally depends on the firm. A CB in this economy is not merely an opportunity to not fuck up, it's a round of interviews where you really need to impress. Do not assume a CB means an offer, and do not go trying to figure out your odds. Your only focus right now should be: impress at screeners, impress at CBs, and keep working/hustling/etc. until you get a job. I cannot stress this enough: CLASSES ARE YOUR LOWEST PRIORITY THROUGH HIRING SEASON. YOU MISS CLASSES, JOURNAL MEETINGS, EXTRA CURRICULARS, EVERYTHING FOR INTERVIEWS AND CALL BACKS.


2. I didn't send a single thank you to a screener or cb interviewer. I don't think it hurt me. But if I were to send one it would be through email. Lawyers have enough paper to deal with. They probably have too many emails as well.

I will reiterate and add a little.

1) I know this number for my firm and it surprised me a bit. Don't think that because they are paying a god awful amount of money to fly you out and put you up in a fancy hotel that it means that your chances are high. They are willing to spend a totally unreasonable amount of money to get the people that they want (and then pay again over the summer for them to get wined and dined). Treat the CB as though you are still fighting, but be happy because the odds are definitely much more in your favor during a CB than a screener.

2) Also no thank you notes sent and no adverse reaction. Attorneys have full inboxes and they didn't really want to be doing recruiting interviews in the first place.

To add to number 1, remember that many firms, esopecaily in New York are not flying out that many people. So while you may be coming from Chi to NYC, they alsoi have a billion NYC schools to pick from that cost them nothing to bring in. So while only a few NU people may get CBs, 100 NYU students could and it wouldn't change the expenses.

The amount of billable hours you chew up is worth probably two or three grand. I doubt they really care about air fair.

[IAFG]

If you bid on a firm, you should be trying to get in front of that firm, by any means necessary. The screeners you get at OCI is just the beginning.

[homestyle28]

Regarding Callbacks: While getting more is better, remember you only need 1. I didn't get very many and only 1 in the market I really wanted to be in and it worked out. Obviously it's not ideal, but the 2 weeks of OCI can be a pretty emotional time, especially as you get dinged from firms you liked/thought went well. Do you best not to get too high after an interview or too law after a ding. Even if you strike out, you're still a good/worthwhile person who was smart enough to get into one of the best law schools in the country. Things will be ok.

[Anonymous User]

Regarding Callbacks: While getting more is better, remember you only need 1. I didn't get very many and only 1 in the market I really wanted to be in and it worked out. Obviously it's not ideal, but the 2 weeks of OCI can be a pretty emotional time, especially as you get dinged from firms you liked/thought went well. Do you best not to get too high after an interview or too law after a ding. Even if you strike out, you're still a good/worthwhile person who was smart enough to get into one of the best law schools in the country. Things will be ok.

As someone who recently bombed a job fair interview, thanks for this.

[Anonymous User]

Regarding Callbacks: While getting more is better, remember you only need 1. I didn't get very many and only 1 in the market I really wanted to be in and it worked out. Obviously it's not ideal, but the 2 weeks of OCI can be a pretty emotional time, especially as you get dinged from firms you liked/thought went well. Do you best not to get too high after an interview or too law after a ding. Even if you strike out, you're still a good/worthwhile person who was smart enough to get into one of the best law schools in the country. Things will be ok.

As someone who recently bombed a job fair interview, thanks for this.

OmiGod. She's preparing us for our eventual strike-outs.

[Anonymous User]

I think our Simplicity is down, maybe on purpose. I can't log in. Maybe the slots are being assigned?

[dolfan0516]

I think our Simplicity is down, maybe on purpose. I can't log in. Maybe the slots are being assigned?

How'd you miss the giant oversized red text at the bottom of the page? They say scheduled maintenance, but it's really due to them running the lottery and assigning us our OCI schedule.

[Anonymous User]

I think our Simplicity is down, maybe on purpose. I can't log in. Maybe the slots are being assigned?

How'd you miss the giant oversized red text at the bottom of the page? They say scheduled maintenance, but it's really due to them running the lottery and assigning us our OCI schedule.

Oh, yeah, thanks. Missed it b/c working from my iPhone.

[homestyle28]

Regarding Callbacks: While getting more is better, remember you only need 1. I didn't get very many and only 1 in the market I really wanted to be in and it worked out. Obviously it's not ideal, but the 2 weeks of OCI can be a pretty emotional time, especially as you get dinged from firms you liked/thought went well. Do you best not to get too high after an interview or too law after a ding. Even if you strike out, you're still a good/worthwhile person who was smart enough to get into one of the best law schools in the country. Things will be ok.

As someone who recently bombed a job fair interview, thanks for this.

OmiGod. She's preparing us for our eventual strike-outs.

Hey, I'm all man.

[greenchair]

ANyone know what time symplicity will be restored??????

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

Site says it's supposed to be up by noon.

[Fabulist]

Big red text is gone, at least on my phone. Anyone else getting a "your account has been disabled, please contact career services" when they try to login?

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

Yep.

[Fabulist]

Welp, I'm glad it wasn't just a character flaw on my part.

[rinkrat19]

I'm actually really nervous to see how my bid list worked out. My market targeting aims were...unique.


ETA: 10am PT and Symplicity is still shut down. You'll have to imagine the intensity of my surprise.

[lgleye]

Hyper-ventilating helps.

[rinkrat19]

Hyper-ventilating helps.

I'm researching natural resource damage enforcement authority. As riveting as that is, I'd like to rip the bandaid off.

[splitsplat]

bids are up, got 17 out of my top 20 and nada after

[eschewinganonymity]

They're up!

ETA: 22 - highest was 36

[Anonymous User]

Got 20 total. Somehow managed to get #41 haha.

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

20 of top 23, and 33. Who would've guessed.

[rinkrat19]

Hmm, looks like I should have put some Chicago firms higher, but I got nearly all my PDX/Den/Sea bids (the ones I missed have NY offices.) Missed a bunch of SF/SV firms.

Didn't get MoFo at 6, Foley at 9, or Drinker Biddle at 11.

21 overall, 8 of my top 10, lowest 36.


ETA: Is there a way to download them all as one calendar file, or just the individual .ics files? If I have to import a file into google for each one, it's faster just to type them myself.

[Anonymous User]

Got 10 of my top 20 (14 of my top 25), lowest 49/50.

[terriers]

Damn a lot of the mid-NYCs went early, missed out on 3 of 4 from 8-11.

[Anonymous User]

For interviews, should we expect to have to explain relatively significant jumps in gpa, similar to what someone might do after retaking the lsat? I.e. I improved by .27- will that be a potential yellow/red flag?