Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc) Forum

[Anonymous User]

I have a life sciences background (no patent bar) and am interested in IP lit and other pharma industry focused practices. I've been mass mailing every large firm in my 2 main markets that have such a practice but this list isn't anywhere near the 200 firms you guys have reached. Would you recommend I tweak my resume/cover letter and apply to other firms without a strong IP/pharma practice? Right now my resume pretty much screams IP. Thanks.

[Gotti]

Tagging. I'm a little late but I'm hoping to send out a shit ton more of mass mails to NYC. Nervous.

I'm right there with you. Are you hitting CA too?

Eh, some of them. Only the NY firms with offices in Silicon Valley and SF

[Anonymous User]

Tagging. I'm a little late but I'm hoping to send out a shit ton more of mass mails to NYC. Nervous.

I'm right there with you. Are you hitting CA too?

Eh, some of them. Only the NY firms with offices in Silicon Valley and SF

What firms are there in NYC that don't come to FLS?

[akili]

Good idea or bad idea to go back to firms I've applied to and contact alumni that went to my law school? (just asking them for general info, not asking for a job)

[rad lulz]

Good idea or bad idea to go back to firms I've applied to and contact alumni that went to my law school? (just asking them for general info, not asking for a job)

Good.

[Gotti]

Tagging. I'm a little late but I'm hoping to send out a shit ton more of mass mails to NYC. Nervous.

I'm right there with you. Are you hitting CA too?

Eh, some of them. Only the NY firms with offices in Silicon Valley and SF

What firms are there in NYC that don't come to FLS?

I don't know, but I'm mass mailing the firms that are coming that I didn't get a chance to bid on

[Anonymous User]

I just realized that there was a "J" added before the "Education" heading on the resume I sent out to the firms I mass mailed... Does this mean I should pretty much give up hope on all of these firms? This didn't happen with any of my OCI firms or Resume Collection firms, so I'm not exactly sure how this happened.

[chrisbru]

I just realized that there was a "J" added before the "Education" heading on the resume I sent out to the firms I mass mailed... Does this mean I should pretty much give up hope on all of these firms? This didn't happen with any of my OCI firms or Resume Collection firms, so I'm not exactly sure how this happened.

Unfortunately - Yeah, probably a brutal mistake.

[Anonymous User]

Stupid question: Do we indent in mass mails?

Like...

Dear XXX.

I'm YYY...

or:

Dear XXX.

I'm YYY

[LeDique]

Stupid question: Do we indent in mass mails?

Like...

Dear XXX.

I'm YYY...

or:

Dear XXX.

I'm YYY

wat

[Anonymous User]

How do you guys address associates/partner alumni when you email them out of the blue? Hi Mr? Dear Mr?

[Anonymous User]

I just realized that there was a "J" added before the "Education" heading on the resume I sent out to the firms I mass mailed... Does this mean I should pretty much give up hope on all of these firms? This didn't happen with any of my OCI firms or Resume Collection firms, so I'm not exactly sure how this happened.

I realized I had a typo on my transcript I turned in for OCI. I am pretty sure that's why my CB conversion rate is really low. I'm 2/20. It sucks. It is totally my fault. It's really frustrating though that I had around 3 people proof read all of my material and none of us saw it. We just have to fix the mistakes, move on, and apply to more places.

[ilovesf]

I'm updating my references and adding my judge from this summer. When I list the phone number, should I list her chambers' number? It isn't listed on the court website, but I have it. It goes to her assistant. I could also list her Calendar Clerk & Courtroom Deputy, which is on the judge's website. I just don't want to give any information I shouldn't be giving. I doubt anyone will call anyway.

[Anonymous User]

I'm guessing just sending resume and transcript is ineffective/not acceptable for NYC mass mail?

[Anonymous User]

Got an invite for screener outside of OCI from Kirkland & Ellis. Waited 2 days to respond to figure out when I'd be available due to other pending interviews. K&E said their schedule was full...didn't get screener...

which office?

[JenDarby]

I'm guessing just sending resume and transcript is ineffective/not acceptable for NYC mass mail?

It's time consuming, but check each firms website. Every NYC firm I've applied to has had explicit instructions on the site, whether it was using their own career services platform or emailing specific documents to a specific individual.

[ShitLawOrBust]

I'm guessing just sending resume and transcript is ineffective/not acceptable for NYC mass mail?

You probably want to send a cover letter, too. However I copped 2 interviews recently from NYC firms that I didn't send cover letters to, so it all depends.

[Gotti]

Stupid question: Do we indent in mass mails?

Like...

Dear XXX.

I'm YYY...

or:

Dear XXX.

I'm YYY

wat

I get what he/she's saying...I didn't indent. I don't think it matters. Our CPC gave us a binder with sample cover letters and there are both versions.

[Gotti]

I'm guessing just sending resume and transcript is ineffective/not acceptable for NYC mass mail?

You probably want to send a cover letter, too. However I copped 2 interviews recently from NYC firms that I didn't send cover letters to, so it all depends.

I would just write a generic cover letter to send out if you're not trying to specifically target the firms. Unless your grades are amazing and/or something on your resume really stands out as being unique, a resume + transcript can come of as lazy IMO. I have a generic cover letter in which I just replace the firm name. I also have a litigation cover letter for certain types of firms.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten interview offers via snail mail? Or is it safe to assume that anything coming snail = fail?

[chrisbru]

I'm updating my references and adding my judge from this summer. When I list the phone number, should I list her chambers' number? It isn't listed on the court website, but I have it. It goes to her assistant. I could also list her Calendar Clerk & Courtroom Deputy, which is on the judge's website. I just don't want to give any information I shouldn't be giving. I doubt anyone will call anyway.

When you asked the judge if he/she would be a reference, did you not ask what his/her preferred email and phone number to be contacted at? If not - Call or email him/her and ask.

[ilovesf]

I'm updating my references and adding my judge from this summer. When I list the phone number, should I list her chambers' number? It isn't listed on the court website, but I have it. It goes to her assistant. I could also list her Calendar Clerk & Courtroom Deputy, which is on the judge's website. I just don't want to give any information I shouldn't be giving. I doubt anyone will call anyway.

When you asked the judge if he/she would be a reference, did you not ask what his/her preferred email and phone number to be contacted at? If not - Call or email him/her and ask.

She said call because she isn't allowed to put anything in writing, but it didn't cross my mind to ask which number. I think I will just put the Chambers number because people would get transferred to that number anyway. (and it comes up on google)

[Anonymous User]

Anyone actually get an offer from mass mailing from a market paying NYC firm?

Seems like there's a lot of success from secondary markets but I haven't been reading too much about NYC success.

[Anonymous User]

Rough day - 4 dings

Skadden (snail mail), Manatt (email), Fox Rothschild (email), McAndrews (snail mail)

[Anonymous User]

People snail mail ding you when you mass mail? Literal wtf.