School OCI Data Forum

[Anonymous User]

Not sure if this is the thread where this belongs but:

Top 1/3 at a T25, secondary journal. Bid on 30 firms and got 5 preselects (plus 4 alternates). 2 in the primary market of my school's graduates, and 3 in secondary markets, despite a lack of personal ties. Found that interesting.

good work. i'm top 10-15%, T25, law review. FOUR preselects.

This is my new official response to any thread where somebody wonders if they should take a full ride at a lower ranked school or pay sticker for a T14.

yep. 30+ total, but only 4 from oci. i HIGHLY recommend not attending my school.

[Black-Blue]

Not sure if this is the thread where this belongs but:

Top 1/3 at a T25, secondary journal. Bid on 30 firms and got 5 preselects (plus 4 alternates). 2 in the primary market of my school's graduates, and 3 in secondary markets, despite a lack of personal ties. Found that interesting.

good work. i'm top 10-15%, T25, law review. FOUR preselects.

That sucks. Wasn't there a thread that someone below median at T1 and still got 3 preselects?

[lawhawk]

Not sure if this is the thread where this belongs but:

Top 1/3 at a T25, secondary journal. Bid on 30 firms and got 5 preselects (plus 4 alternates). 2 in the primary market of my school's graduates, and 3 in secondary markets, despite a lack of personal ties. Found that interesting.

good work. i'm top 10-15%, T25, law review. FOUR preselects.

This is my new official response to any thread where somebody wonders if they should take a full ride at a lower ranked school or pay sticker for a T14.

yep. 30+ total, but only 4 from oci. i HIGHLY recommend not attending my school.

It would be really helpful if we knew more info than your school is somewhere between 14-25. Tell us your school specifically. That's essentially what the anonymous feature is for.

[dakatz]

Not sure if this is the thread where this belongs but:

Top 1/3 at a T25, secondary journal. Bid on 30 firms and got 5 preselects (plus 4 alternates). 2 in the primary market of my school's graduates, and 3 in secondary markets, despite a lack of personal ties. Found that interesting.

good work. i'm top 10-15%, T25, law review. FOUR preselects.

This is my new official response to any thread where somebody wonders if they should take a full ride at a lower ranked school or pay sticker for a T14.

yep. 30+ total, but only 4 from oci. i HIGHLY recommend not attending my school.

If its anonymous, then why not tell us the school? Sucks that you got so few from OCI, but 30+ total sounds real good.

[Anonymous User]

yep. 30+ total, but only 4 from oci. i HIGHLY recommend not attending my school.

If its anonymous, then why not tell us the school? Sucks that you got so few from OCI, but 30+ total sounds real good.

emory. worst oci that i know of, including T2. i have a friend who is top 20% - he got 0.

[Pearalegal]

Oh wow. I was hoping the Emory horror stories were overblown. Really sorry to hear that.

[Anonymous User]

Oh wow. I was hoping the Emory horror stories were overblown. Really sorry to hear that.

here's an anecdote about our CSO: a friend was talking to one of the counselors and commented that she must be really busy, having to keep track of everyone's interview schedules (just to be polite). her response? "oh, well it's just the students who have interviews, so it's not too many."

[Pearalegal]

Oh wow. I was hoping the Emory horror stories were overblown. Really sorry to hear that.

here's an anecdote about our CSO: a friend was talking to one of the counselors and commented that she must be really busy, having to keep track of everyone's interview schedules (just to be polite). her response? "oh, well it's just the students who have interviews, so it's not too many."

That's some messed up shit, man.

[stratocophic]

Oh wow. I was hoping the Emory horror stories were overblown. Really sorry to hear that.

here's an anecdote about our CSO: a friend was talking to one of the counselors and commented that she must be really busy, having to keep track of everyone's interview schedules (just to be polite). her response? "oh, well it's just the students who have interviews, so it's not too many."

That's some messed up shit, man.

+1 That's awful. Pink slips all around sounds like TCR.

[Grizz]

These Emory stories are . But then again, I'm going to Vandy, so who knows, I may still be in killself territory.

[emorystud2010]

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[Pearalegal]

Oh wow. I was hoping the Emory horror stories were overblown. Really sorry to hear that.

here's an anecdote about our CSO: a friend was talking to one of the counselors and commented that she must be really busy, having to keep track of everyone's interview schedules (just to be polite). her response? "oh, well it's just the students who have interviews, so it's not too many."

suddenly getting in off their waitlist isnt as exciting.

Your name and your post seem at odds.

[lawhawk]

Yeah these Emory OCI numbers and anecdotal stories are bonkers...It doesn't make much sense, since Emory is the best law school in a relatively large market--and literally right in the middle of the market. How is UGA doing with OCI?

[Grizz]

Yeah these Emory OCI numbers and anecdotal stories are bonkers...It doesn't make much sense, since Emory is the best law school in a relatively large market--and literally right in the middle of the market. How is UGA doing with OCI?

Except plenty of people from UVA, Duke, and Vanderbilt all also target that market.

[Pearalegal]

Yeah these Emory OCI numbers and anecdotal stories are bonkers...It doesn't make much sense, since Emory is the best law school in a relatively large market--and literally right in the middle of the market. How is UGA doing with OCI?

No clue, but I was always under the (perhaps entirely stupid) assumption that for whatever reason, state schools always have their own niche. Maybe in state government, or due to alums or in the small state markets that bigger schools don't bother making connections in?

[Grizz]

Yeah these Emory OCI numbers and anecdotal stories are bonkers...It doesn't make much sense, since Emory is the best law school in a relatively large market--and literally right in the middle of the market. How is UGA doing with OCI?

Also we have no clue what markets above posters were targeting.

[270910]

Yeah these Emory OCI numbers and anecdotal stories are bonkers...It doesn't make much sense, since Emory is the best law school in a relatively large market--and literally right in the middle of the market. How is UGA doing with OCI?

Also we have no clue what markets above posters were targeting.

The concept of "targeting a market at OCI" has no meaning when so few firms come. At a place like Emory, everyone targets the market I like to call "law firms showing up to OCI."

[rundoxierun]

These Emory stories are . But then again, I'm going to Vandy, so who knows, I may still be in killself territory.

Dont worry.. Vandy is absolutely unassailable compared to schools in its range. I would take Vandy over UCLA/Georgetown/Cornell without even flinching.

[romothesavior]

These Emory stories are . But then again, I'm going to Vandy, so who knows, I may still be in killself territory.

Dont worry.. Vandy is absolutely unassailable compared to schools in its range. I would take Vandy over UCLA/Georgetown/Cornell without even flinching.

While I agree that Vandy is possibly the better school right now (especially with $$), I think it is hard to make such bold claims based on snippets of ITE data. Pre-ITE, I don't think I'd be quite so sure about Vandy >>> Cornel/GULC/UCLA, and a year of NLJ data isn't enough to convince me that Vandy is better on its face.

[rundoxierun]

These Emory stories are . But then again, I'm going to Vandy, so who knows, I may still be in killself territory.

Dont worry.. Vandy is absolutely unassailable compared to schools in its range. I would take Vandy over UCLA/Georgetown/Cornell without even flinching.

While I agree that Vandy is possibly the better school right now (especially with $$), I think it is hard to make such bold claims based on snippets of ITE data. Pre-ITE, I don't think I'd be quite so sure about Vandy >>> Cornel/GULC/UCLA, and a year of NLJ data isn't enough to convince me that Vandy is better on its face.

Oh, apologies, I didnt mean just because of data. I mean because of its rep in the southeast(Im a resident of the region). Vandy is not too far behind UVA and right there with Duke(without the polarizing effect). Even before the downturn Vandy was extremely strong, the downturn has just highlighted this as other schools have had trouble.

[270910]

Oh, apologies, I didnt mean just because of data. I mean because of its rep in the southeast(Im a resident of the region). Vandy is not too far behind UVA and right there with Duke(without the polarizing effect). Even before the downturn Vandy was extremely strong, the downturn has just highlighted this as other schools have had trouble.

Definitely depends on goals. Vandy does much less well with the "most prestigious" (whatever that means) firms than Duke and UVA, but still places a very large number of its graduates into desirable law firm positions. It's worth considering. Most people I know didn't give a shit about what firm they wound up with so long as it paid them too much money until they started the OCI process, at which point it started to matter a lot more.

[romothesavior]

Oh, apologies, I didnt mean just because of data. I mean because of its rep in the southeast(Im a resident of the region). Vandy is not too far behind UVA and right there with Duke(without the polarizing effect). Even before the downturn Vandy was extremely strong, the downturn has just highlighted this as other schools have had trouble.

Oh yeah for sure. If we're throwing in soft factors like those, I definitely think Vandy is TCR over CG and UCLA. I dunno if I'd put Vandy on par with Duke, but I do think that Vandy with $$$ > Duke at sticker. Plus Nashville is boss and the campus is gorgeous, and if you want to practice in the SE it is often the best option. I love the school and sometimes kick myself for not going there.

My previous post was just geared towards employment/OCI-related matters (or what little I know about it).

[Anonymous User]

More (anecdotal) data from Wustl

Top 25% - got 8 preselect interviews, 1 lottery and 2 alternates. I applied to a secondary market which isn't popular with students here, so I did better than others with similar grades who focused on popular markets like Chicago/NYC/DC

A friend in the top 10% got 16 interviews

A friend who is somewhere between median and top 1/3 got 3 interviews

Another just below median student got 2 interviews

[rundoxierun]

Oh, apologies, I didnt mean just because of data. I mean because of its rep in the southeast(Im a resident of the region). Vandy is not too far behind UVA and right there with Duke(without the polarizing effect). Even before the downturn Vandy was extremely strong, the downturn has just highlighted this as other schools have had trouble.

Definitely depends on goals. Vandy does much less well with the "most prestigious" (whatever that means) firms than Duke and UVA, but still places a very large number of its graduates into desirable law firm positions. It's worth considering. Most people I know didn't give a shit about what firm they wound up with so long as it paid them too much money until they started the OCI process, at which point it started to matter a lot more.

Oh, really? I always though most people didnt really care what firm they worked for and the people who did care were the minority. For me, my mid-term ideal goal is academia so if I dont get a fed. clerkship I really couldnt care less what firm I work at as long as it pays well. Im also of the belief that ~100-125k in the south is greater than 160 in NYC. Those two factors combined probably can explain the bias I have for Vandy over Gtown/Cornell. I love the schools out west but the non-ip market out there just scares me right now. Kicking myself for not staying with that BioChem major.

[Anonymous User]

How about another Emory anecdote: Top 20%, 1 preselect, 0 Atlanta firms. It's a massacre.