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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:21 pm

It seems like calls are coming at the end of the business day, did anyone have a different experience?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:34 pm

That's awesome, congrats again!

I wonder if they called references for any alternates? Maybe I'm just getting impatient but I'm starting to wonder if I'm an alternate.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

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Anonymous User wrote:That's awesome, congrats again!

I wonder if they called references for any alternates? Maybe I'm just getting impatient but I'm starting to wonder if I'm an alternate.
I wouldn't necessarily come to that conclusion. They don't make offers until your file's complete, and that means contacting and getting responses from everyone you listed as a reference, for one (I learned that the hard way). If someone's out of the office or on vacation, that'll slow it down.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:That's awesome, congrats again!

I wonder if they called references for any alternates? Maybe I'm just getting impatient but I'm starting to wonder if I'm an alternate.
No, you will get an offer if your references are contacted. Mine haven't been contacted at all, so I am an alternate.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:45 pm

Any finalists for ATR(DC) heard anything since Deana's last update?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:50 pm

Thank you both for your responses! I hope I get an offer and my file is complete soon. I heard from 2 of my 3 references that they were contacted. I think I will email my third reference to see if he completed a reference request.

I'm sorry to hear your references weren't contacted yet. I hope you'll get an offer if someone declines!

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:53 pm

I was under the impression based on last year's post that even if your references are checked it does not guarantee an offer. Can someone verify this?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:58 pm

For those of you who have received offers, do you get a phone call from HQ or from the court you are selected for?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

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Anonymous User wrote:For those of you who have received offers, do you get a phone call from HQ or from the court you are selected for?
My call was from HQ, and not the court for which I'll be working.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I also received an EOIR OCIJ offer yesterday evening. Accepted it this morning. Very nice folks. Good luck to everyone.
As in, after the work day was over?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:17 am

Question: So at the end of November, I was notified that I was a SLIP finalist for the Civil OIL District Ct office. I know this is an HP page, but does anyone generally know how long it takes to find out whether you get an offer or not? Also, does anyone have a general idea of how many people they designate a finalist in proportion to how many offers they final give?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

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Anonymous User wrote:Question: So at the end of November, I was notified that I was a SLIP finalist for the Civil OIL District Ct office. I know this is an HP page, but does anyone generally know how long it takes to find out whether you get an offer or not? Also, does anyone have a general idea of how many people they designate a finalist in proportion to how many offers they final give?

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I was a SLIP last summer for OCIJ. The problem with comparing last year, however, is the shutdown. Everything was messed up.

Last year I was notified I was selected for further review on 11/4, and I was offered the position around 12/30. No clue about the finalist/offer ratio, we don't even know that for HP. The best guess we have is that there are 3 interviewees for every spot for HP.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by seizmaar » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:48 pm

wait is this for someone accepted into the program in another position or for people who didn't get a position?

edit: nevermind she updated and stated its for anyone who applied to honors this year. sounds like a good deal.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:12 pm

How many people are eligible for Honors, have passed the bar and are simultaneously available to start something in January of 2015? I imagine it's not as competitive as it otherwise would be.

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Anonymous User wrote:How many people are eligible for Honors, have passed the bar and are simultaneously available to start something in January of 2015? I imagine it's not as competitive as it otherwise would be.
Yeah, that's my problem with this. I meet all the other criteria (and am an alternate for another position), but I am in a clerkship that doesn't end until next August. Otherwise, I would have my application in for this already.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

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Anonymous User wrote:Question: So at the end of November, I was notified that I was a SLIP finalist for the Civil OIL District Ct office. I know this is an HP page, but does anyone generally know how long it takes to find out whether you get an offer or not? Also, does anyone have a general idea of how many people they designate a finalist in proportion to how many offers they final give?

Thanks
I was a SLIP last summer for OCIJ. The problem with comparing last year, however, is the shutdown. Everything was messed up.

Last year I was notified I was selected for further review on 11/4, and I was offered the position around 12/30. No clue about the finalist/offer ratio, we don't even know that for HP. The best guess we have is that there are 3 interviewees for every spot for HP.
Do you have any tips on what to do? They haven't contacted me at all by email to set up a phone interview or anything like that, so I'm assuming they do the hiring entirely on the application and the packet of information I sent to them when I was selected for further consideration at the beginning of November.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

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Anonymous User wrote:Question: So at the end of November, I was notified that I was a SLIP finalist for the Civil OIL District Ct office. I know this is an HP page, but does anyone generally know how long it takes to find out whether you get an offer or not? Also, does anyone have a general idea of how many people they designate a finalist in proportion to how many offers they final give?

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I was a SLIP last summer for OCIJ. The problem with comparing last year, however, is the shutdown. Everything was messed up.

Last year I was notified I was selected for further review on 11/4, and I was offered the position around 12/30. No clue about the finalist/offer ratio, we don't even know that for HP. The best guess we have is that there are 3 interviewees for every spot for HP.
Do you have any tips on what to do? They haven't contacted me at all by email to set up a phone interview or anything like that, so I'm assuming they do the hiring entirely on the application and the packet of information I sent to them when I was selected for further consideration at the beginning of November.
Wait? What else do you think you can do?

You'll hear when you hear. Try to forget about it until then. Congratulate yourself if they contact your references.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:18 pm

Did anyone have a situation where one of your references switched jobs, and therefore, the phone number you put on your application would now be incorrect? Not sure if that's a situation that warrants contacting Deanna, or if that's something they would be able to figure out after attempting to call the reference.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Did anyone have a situation where one of your references switched jobs, and therefore, the phone number you put on your application would now be incorrect? Not sure if that's a situation that warrants contacting Deanna, or if that's something they would be able to figure out after attempting to call the reference.
Did you put a correct (personal) email address? One of my references lives/works outside of the US, and they contacted her by email. I would guess if they failed by phone they would email.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Did anyone have a situation where one of your references switched jobs, and therefore, the phone number you put on your application would now be incorrect? Not sure if that's a situation that warrants contacting Deanna, or if that's something they would be able to figure out after attempting to call the reference.
You can call DOJ to update a phone number. I did that for one of my references.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:51 pm

This waiting is driving me mad :shock:

Come on OCIJ!

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This waiting is driving me mad :shock:

Come on OCIJ!

I completely agree!! :? Every morning when I get up I think "this will be the day!" But it's not. Then I get bummed at 5pm lol. Ugh so frustrating!! Let's hope more calls go out tomorrow. I can't stand another weekend waiting!

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:53 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Did anyone have a situation where one of your references switched jobs, and therefore, the phone number you put on your application would now be incorrect? Not sure if that's a situation that warrants contacting Deanna, or if that's something they would be able to figure out after attempting to call the reference.
You can call DOJ to update a phone number. I did that for one of my references.

Awesome, thanks. Hopefully this isn't too big an issue.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2014-15

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I was under the impression based on last year's post that even if your references are checked it does not guarantee an offer. Can someone verify this?
I can confirm per a current JLC that reference checks do not necessarily indicate an imminent offer. OCIJ contacted the JLC's references in late November and JLC did not receive an offer until early January.

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