Columbia EIP 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Eh, it's all speculation. People generally think Stone is around top third and median is around 3.3. We should just put it to rest.

[Anonymous User]

Hi all - maybe this is a bit paranoid, but is there anywhere I can see if I did the Summer Evaluation Survey on Symplicity? I've been working on my bids for a while now and don't remember taking it...

[Anonymous User]

Hi all - maybe this is a bit paranoid, but is there anywhere I can see if I did the Summer Evaluation Survey on Symplicity? I've been working on my bids for a while now and don't remember taking it...

I thought it doesn't even let you see the bidding stuff until you've done the evaluation.

[Anonymous User]

Hi all - maybe this is a bit paranoid, but is there anywhere I can see if I did the Summer Evaluation Survey on Symplicity? I've been working on my bids for a while now and don't remember taking it...

I thought it doesn't even let you see the bidding stuff until you've done the evaluation.

Yep this is right, it won't let you see the bidding menu until you do the evaluation.

[Anonymous User]

I think is my final effort at bid list. 3.7+, no work experience, all New York offices. Anything laughably wrong here?

1. Proskauer
2. Shearman & Sterling
3. Sidley Austin
4. Skadden
5. Paul Hastings
6. Debevoise & Plimpton
7. White & Case
8. Wilmer Hale
9. Weil
10. Jones Day
11. Clifford Chance
12. Sullivan & Cromwell
13. Milbank
14. Ropes & Gray
15. Paul Weiss
16. Willkie
17. Freshfields
18. Schulte
19. Davis Polk
20. Akin Gump
21. Cadwalader
22. Chadbourne & Parke
23. Cravath
24. Goodwin Procter
25. O’Melveny & Myers LLP
26. Dechert LLP
27. Hughes Hubbard
28. Wachtell
29. Boies Schiller
30. Simpson Thacher

- Ned Stark

Same stats as you and it's similar to what I ended up with after taking in advice from this thread; one thing though, I tried to play it safer with STB and bumped it a couple of slots up. Not sure if that's being too paranoid?

- Nymeria

[Anonymous User]

one thing though, I tried to play it safer with STB and bumped it a couple of slots up. Not sure if that's being too paranoid?

- Nymeria

I have this question too. It would help me secure another bid if I lowered STB a bit, but I don't know how far I can go and still get it. Do we think 28 is safe?

[Anonymous User]

When one bids Proskauer NY & Proskauer LA Simplicity states one has 31 bids. This has to be a glitch, right? Anything we should do, or just bid the regular 30 and don't mind "Bidding period in progress. 30 out of 31 bid used (1 additional bids granted due to related offices)" at the top of the page? Thanks!

[Anonymous User]

Well, doing this whole bidding thing on Symplicity is making shit feel real.

[Anonymous User]

Also, just to clarify, once we've assigned bid #'s to the firms and uploaded the appropriate resume, we're done right? there's no final confirmatory step to make sure OCS puts them in?

Thanks!

Bump. Anyone knows? Apologies if this is entirely obvious, paranoia setting in.

[Anonymous User]

Also, just to clarify, once we've assigned bid #'s to the firms and uploaded the appropriate resume, we're done right? there's no final confirmatory step to make sure OCS puts them in?

Thanks!

Bump. Anyone knows? Apologies if this is entirely obvious, paranoia setting in.

There is nothing else to do.

[Anonymous User]

When one bids Proskauer NY & Proskauer LA Simplicity states one has 31 bids. This has to be a glitch, right? Anything we should do, or just bid the regular 30 and don't mind "Bidding period in progress. 30 out of 31 bid used (1 additional bids granted due to related offices)" at the top of the page? Thanks!

You don't get extra bids. 30 is the cap. If you bid on two offices for a firm that doesn't allow multiple interviews, it'll do that, but only your top 30 selection go through. Check and make sure you didn't bid on 2 offices for a firm only allowing 1 interview.

[Anonymous User]

When one bids Proskauer NY & Proskauer LA Simplicity states one has 31 bids. This has to be a glitch, right? Anything we should do, or just bid the regular 30 and don't mind "Bidding period in progress. 30 out of 31 bid used (1 additional bids granted due to related offices)" at the top of the page? Thanks!

You don't get extra bids. 30 is the cap. If you bid on two offices for a firm that doesn't allow multiple interviews, it'll do that, but only your top 30 selection go through. Check and make sure you didn't bid on 2 offices for a firm only allowing 1 interview.

Right, I agree. And I have not, and through experimentation determined that it's the double bid at Proskauer -- which is allowed -- which is doing that. Emailed OCS who didn't know.

[Anonymous User]

If you're bidding a home market and NY for the same firm, is it recommended to have the same resume for both or tailored to the different branches?

[Anonymous User]

If you're bidding a home market and NY for the same firm, is it recommended to have the same resume for both or tailored to the different branches?

I have one resume with my california address & CalSociety, and one with my NY address and no CalSoc. Then again, this is for different firms. But the same logic may apply for the same firm since supposedly recruiting operates independently for each region.

[Anonymous User]

Thoughts, tips? Uploaded but very willing to edit. Targeting transactional work, NYC only. Low Stone, 2 years v. relevant WE, strong interviewer (aren’t we all), slight minority. I realize there are reaches here but I tried to buffer with other options.

Do Kirkland and Gibson look safe in those slots? Covington, Fried?

1. Proskauer
2. Sidley Austin
3. Kirkland & Ellis
4. Gibson Dunn
5. Skadden
6. Mayer brown
7. Paul Hastings
8. Weil Gotshal
9. Debevoise & Plimpton
10. Jones Day
11. Latham & Watkins
12. Sull Crom
13. Ropes & Gray
14. Cleary Gottlieb
15. Schulte Roth
16. Paul Weiss
17. Davis Polk
18. Cahill
19. Covington
20. Fried Frank
21. Goodwin
22. Cooley
23. O’Melveny
24. Orrick Herrington
25. Cravath
26. Dechert
27. Simpson Thatcher
28. Wachtell
29. Vinson & Elkins
30. Perkins Coie

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland's up to chance, and Debevoise is risky but could pan out fine.

Willkie and Milbank do strong corporate work but aren't on your list, while Mayer Brown's an unconventional bid. Not necessarily a bad thing, but any particular reason?

[Anonymous User]

Thoughts, tips? Uploaded but very willing to edit. Targeting transactional work, NYC only. Low Stone, 2 years v. relevant WE, strong interviewer (aren’t we all), slight minority. I realize there are reaches here but I tried to buffer with other options.

Do Kirkland and Gibson look safe in those slots? Covington, Fried?

1. Proskauer
2. Sidley Austin
3. Kirkland & Ellis
4. Gibson Dunn
5. Skadden
6. Mayer brown
7. Paul Hastings
8. Weil Gotshal
9. Debevoise & Plimpton
10. Jones Day
11. Latham & Watkins
12. Sull Crom
13. Ropes & Gray
14. Cleary Gottlieb
15. Schulte Roth
16. Paul Weiss
17. Davis Polk
18. Cahill
19. Covington
20. Fried Frank
21. Goodwin
22. Cooley
23. O’Melveny
24. Orrick Herrington
25. Cravath
26. Dechert
27. Simpson Thatcher
28. Wachtell
29. Vinson & Elkins
30. Perkins Coie

I'd switch Kirkland and Sidley. Anecdotally from this board, a lot of people have Kirkland either 1 or 2 and I've seen Sidley a bunch of times at 3 (including mine). Unless you like Sidley more, in which case maybe drop Kirkland all together in order to bump up everyone else on your list? (just a possible strategy to consider)

[Mays]

Alright who wants to bid Cleveland firms with me?

[Anonymous User]

Alright who wants to bid Cleveland firms with me?

Lebron

[Anonymous User]

Caught a last minute bidding error (wrong city). Oops.

[ph5354a]

And now...we wait.

[Anonymous User]

How much of an issue is it if my resume doesn't look exactly like the OCS format? I just saw that I will be informed by OCS if it doesn't fit the requirements. Content is pretty much the same, just the formatting and style are a bit different.

[Anonymous User]

How much of an issue is it if my resume doesn't look exactly like the OCS format? I just saw that I will be informed by OCS if it doesn't fit the requirements. Content is pretty much the same, just the formatting and style are a bit different.

This is a good thing to remind people of:

Something OCS is good at!

I'm pretty sure they read through every resume and check for errors. You're not doomed if you don't match exactly (though they keep it pretty close) and they let you resubmit if there is a problem.

So, don't lose sleep about your resumes right now.

-a 3L

[Anonymous User]

How much of an issue is it if my resume doesn't look exactly like the OCS format? I just saw that I will be informed by OCS if it doesn't fit the requirements. Content is pretty much the same, just the formatting and style are a bit different.

This is an enormous deal and something firms will notice immediately. You have to remember we see literally hundreds of CLS resumes, and - let's put it this way, if you can't follow the fucking resume guidelines, how will you follow a SEC form or make court papers look like our firm style? It may sound nuts but this is pretty close to an auto ding for us. For the love of god, just make your resume look identical to everyone else's.

[Anonymous User]

How much of an issue is it if my resume doesn't look exactly like the OCS format? I just saw that I will be informed by OCS if it doesn't fit the requirements. Content is pretty much the same, just the formatting and style are a bit different.

This is an enormous deal and something firms will notice immediately. You have to remember we see literally hundreds of CLS resumes, and - let's put it this way, if you can't follow the fucking resume guidelines, how will you follow a SEC form or make court papers look like our firm style? It may sound nuts but this is pretty close to an auto ding for us. For the love of god, just make your resume look identical to everyone else's.

(1) there are multiple acceptable formats

(2) I don' think people are aware of them as "resume guidelines" yes CLS resumes have a general look, but they'll also see hundreds of resumes from Harvard, Duke and other places that have less draconian resume standards this is not an auto-ding

but (3) I think we should still try to follow the guidelines to the extent it is possible