GULC OCI 2021 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Sidley DC ding from screener. Finally.

[Anonymous User]

Foley & Lardner ding

Sorry to hear, but you will be alright! Was this the dc office?

[Anonymous User]

Last Week
Proskauer Boston CB
Cahill NY Ding


Today:
Weil NY ding
Simpson NY CB

Initials for STB? Call or email?

Have you done your Proskauer CB and if so, any word?

[Anonymous User]

Did anyone see any action from the resume collect firms? I selected 4 or 5 firms from that category like Alston & Bird, Dentons, Buckley, and it’s been total silence. Slightly above median gpa.

Also applied to several. I've had an interview with Boies Schiller, but nothing from any others

[Anonymous User]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

[Anonymous User]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

WTF at the bolded portion. The fact of the matter is that employers regard Cornell higher than our school. There's no "assault" or "ambush" here. This is historically the case.

[Anonymous User]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

While I do genuinely appreciate the sympathy, this is more than a bit dramatic. There’s no assault on Georgetown. GMAFB. First, there have been lots of callbacks throughout the 20-some odd pages here, too. Second, TLS is hardly a scientific sample of how the cycle is going. Third, there’s more information coming to light from firms and from OCS that firms did a lot of pre-OCI recruiting and summer class sizes are going to be smaller this year. That hurts everyone. Maybe going a little earlier in the cycle could have helped, but several schools went the same time or later. If anything, OCS should have been more aggressive in telling students to get out there in the Fall. But apparently firms told them (and other schools) they wouldn’t be doing much pre-OCI hiring.

Firms like Georgetown just fine and historically many of them hire solid numbers from the school like Covington, CSM, Hogan, Latham, STB, K&E, Akin, just to name a few. This is just a weird, difficult cycle (“unprecedented,” if you can stand to hear that word again). Saying another school is getting more callbacks amounts to an ambush or assault on Georgetown is ridiculous.

[Anonymous User]

Latham (NY) ding

[Johncaroll]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

While I do genuinely appreciate the sympathy, this is more than a bit dramatic. There’s no assault on Georgetown. GMAFB. First, there have been lots of callbacks throughout the 20-some odd pages here, too. Second, TLS is hardly a scientific sample of how the cycle is going. Third, there’s more information coming to light from firms and from OCS that firms did a lot of pre-OCI recruiting and summer class sizes are going to be smaller this year. That hurts everyone. Maybe going a little earlier in the cycle could have helped, but several schools went the same time or later. If anything, OCS should have been more aggressive in telling students to get out there in the Fall. But apparently firms told them (and other schools) they wouldn’t be doing much pre-OCI hiring.

Firms like Georgetown just fine and historically many of them hire solid numbers from the school like Covington, CSM, Hogan, Latham, STB, K&E, Akin, just to name a few. This is just a weird, difficult cycle (“unprecedented,” if you can stand to hear that word again). Saying another school is getting more callbacks amounts to an ambush or assault on Georgetown is ridiculous.

You're missing several of my points. First, Cornell is comparable to Georgetown in rank, and my V20 firm last year, for example, had two Cornell students and nine Georgetown students (Georgetown had a higher placement to student ratio). I am using Cornell to demonstrate that other schools that had similar OCI timelines are apparently having different OCI outcomes. Second, I stand by how I describe this. Poor hiring data will affect surveys that are used for future school rankings, and when I am hearing that students at other lower ranked schools (especially ones in NY and Texas) had strong OCI cycles, then that is concerning. Is assault the right word? Maybe not, but once Georgetown's rankings are affected then it will be an entirely different story. Need I remind you about 2017 when Georgetown was ranked 15th and the admin thought it merited a detailed explanation to address everyone's concern?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone had their CB with Reed Smith (NY) yet?? And if they can share the timeline for CB -> offer?

[Anonymous User]

Foley & Lardner ding

Sorry to hear, but you will be alright! Was this the dc office?

Thanks, yes.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear back from BakerHostetler or Greenberg Traurig ?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten an offer from Debevoise NYC/know the timeline for one?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear back from BakerHostetler or Greenberg Traurig ?

Still waiting on BakerHostetler NYC after cb last Wednesday.

[Anonymous User]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

WTF at the bolded portion. The fact of the matter is that employers regard Cornell higher than our school. There's no "assault" or "ambush" here. This is historically the case.

Agree with this but not even on the basis of Cornell v. GULC. Looking at threads and talking to people at various schools, this year has just been hard. Students and Harvard, Penn, etc have no offers right now, particularly in DC. I think the late timing added to the difficulty, but I don't think employers said let's assault GULC while the reality is many people from other T14's are struggling (ESPECIALLY in DC) and many more firms did Pre OCI than counseling advised would be happening which only further limits space as time goes on.

[Anonymous User]

Accidental repost.

[Anonymous User]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

WTF at the bolded portion. The fact of the matter is that employers regard Cornell higher than our school. There's no "assault" or "ambush" here. This is historically the case.

Agree with this but not even on the basis of Cornell v. GULC. Looking at threads and talking to people at various schools, this year has just been hard. Students and Harvard, Penn, etc have no offers right now, particularly in DC. I think the late timing added to the difficulty, but I don't think employers said let's assault GULC while the reality is many people from other T14's are struggling (ESPECIALLY in DC) and many more firms did Pre OCI than counseling advised would be happening which only further limits space as time goes on.

Haven't read through this whole thread, but this is just not true at all. Everyone I've spoken with at Harvard, Columbia, etc. has a half-dozen offers right now (yes, many of them in D.C.). Not suggesting that this is a banner year for OCI, but the struggles expressed by many on this board are a strictly Georgetown phenomenon.

[Anonymous User]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

WTF at the bolded portion. The fact of the matter is that employers regard Cornell higher than our school. There's no "assault" or "ambush" here. This is historically the case.

Agree with this but not even on the basis of Cornell v. GULC. Looking at threads and talking to people at various schools, this year has just been hard. Students and Harvard, Penn, etc have no offers right now, particularly in DC. I think the late timing added to the difficulty, but I don't think employers said let's assault GULC while the reality is many people from other T14's are struggling (ESPECIALLY in DC) and many more firms did Pre OCI than counseling advised would be happening which only further limits space as time goes on.

Haven't read through this whole thread, but this is just not true at all. Everyone I've spoken with at Harvard, Columbia, etc. has a half-dozen offers right now. This is a strictly Georgetown phenomenon.

Lol I got to CLS - it's a very feast or famine cycle. Some have been fortunate enough to get tons of offers (particularly corporate focused people) while others have scrapped just a single offer (and some of these kids have median grades). DC has been brutal for CLS as well according to many of my friends in the area. It's a brutal cycle for litigation even at CLS and I won't be surprised if kids at median dip down the vault list a bit more than they would have in past years. I don't think your experience is representative.

[Anonymous User]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

WTF at the bolded portion. The fact of the matter is that employers regard Cornell higher than our school. There's no "assault" or "ambush" here. This is historically the case.

Agree with this but not even on the basis of Cornell v. GULC. Looking at threads and talking to people at various schools, this year has just been hard. Students and Harvard, Penn, etc have no offers right now, particularly in DC. I think the late timing added to the difficulty, but I don't think employers said let's assault GULC while the reality is many people from other T14's are struggling (ESPECIALLY in DC) and many more firms did Pre OCI than counseling advised would be happening which only further limits space as time goes on.

Haven't read through this whole thread, but this is just not true at all. Everyone I've spoken with at Harvard, Columbia, etc. has a half-dozen offers right now (yes, many of them in D.C.). Not suggesting that this is a banner year for OCI, but the struggles expressed by many on this board are a strictly Georgetown phenomenon.

This is just wrong. I know about 6 people at CLS that have struck-out, all of whom have honors, and in a normal year would be almost guaranteed multiple offers.

[Anonymous User]

I sincerely commiserate with everyone here. I went through OCI in summer 2019, and things were very different. I was checking out Cornell's 2021 JJF page, which fell on the same week as Georgetown's, and their page is filled with CBs. This is an assault on Georgetown students, or at least an ambush by employers. The only thing I can imagine are 1) the delayed OCI had a measurable impact, or 2) having virtual screeners enabled firms to be more selective with CBs because OCI this year is viewed as one big recruiting event (not school by school, which I'd argue formerly benefited Georgetown due to larger class size compared to most other T14s). On the former point, I know of some DC firms that were interviewing Univ. of Texas and Harvard students back in October/November.

For what it is worth, there were several V10 and V50 firms doing 3L hiring this Fall (2020) to fill incoming classes (Fall 2021). I hope that if the final OCI data supports the conclusions coming from this thread, then firms will at least hire more aggressively during 3L recruiting to keep incoming class sizes similar to previous years. Wishing you all good luck.

WTF at the bolded portion. The fact of the matter is that employers regard Cornell higher than our school. There's no "assault" or "ambush" here. This is historically the case.

Agree with this but not even on the basis of Cornell v. GULC. Looking at threads and talking to people at various schools, this year has just been hard. Students and Harvard, Penn, etc have no offers right now, particularly in DC. I think the late timing added to the difficulty, but I don't think employers said let's assault GULC while the reality is many people from other T14's are struggling (ESPECIALLY in DC) and many more firms did Pre OCI than counseling advised would be happening which only further limits space as time goes on.

Haven't read through this whole thread, but this is just not true at all. Everyone I've spoken with at Harvard, Columbia, etc. has a half-dozen offers right now (yes, many of them in D.C.). Not suggesting that this is a banner year for OCI, but the struggles expressed by many on this board are a strictly Georgetown phenomenon.

You can't state that it's not true that students at those schools don't have any offers. You just don't personally know any. Slow down with the anecdata. You know people at other schools with multiple offers. Congrats. I know people at Georgetown who have multiple offers. Georgetown is also not the only T14 with students who are having difficulty during OCI. It's not a "strictly" Georgetown phenomenon.

[Anonymous User]

CLS student. Previous post is correct. It is absolutely not the case that everyone has a half-dozen offers; I have only spoken to one person with more than 2 offers (and I know a lot of really good students with work experience, journal, etc.), although admittedly my cycle has gone really well. That is including the NY market, even for people with honors. The DC market has been very brutal, but I have actually found that lit-focused students with relevant experiences (judicial internships/USAO 1L summer; clerkships lined up) have been doing fine. I think the real differentiator is whether you are a KJD. If so, cycle is brutal.

[Anonymous User]

Haven't read through this whole thread, but this is just not true at all. Everyone I've spoken with at Harvard, Columbia, etc. has a half-dozen offers right now (yes, many of them in D.C.). Not suggesting that this is a banner year for OCI, but the struggles expressed by many on this board are a strictly Georgetown phenomenon.

This is just wrong. I know about 6 people at CLS that have struck-out, all of whom have honors, and in a normal year would be almost guaranteed multiple offers.

Thank you.

[Anonymous User]

anyone hear post CB offer/rejection from MOFO DC/AKIN GUMP DC/ROPES & GRAY NY?

[Anonymous User]

anyone hear post CB offer/rejection from MOFO DC/AKIN GUMP DC/ROPES & GRAY NY?

People at Georgetown have definitely received offers from Ropes NY

[Anonymous User]

anyone hear post CB offer/rejection from MOFO DC/AKIN GUMP DC/ROPES & GRAY NY?

People at Georgetown have definitely received offers from Ropes NY

ooh thank you! Do you have any idea re: timeline on those offers?