2012 Clerkship Application Thread Forum

[Anonymous User]

I have an interview with a D.ct. judge this week, and I'm sure it's because of a family connection, not because of grades. My grades are OK, but not great, but there is a strong upward trend in substantive classes during 2L. Should I tackle that directly in my interview? Just say something like "I know my grades are probably below what you like to see, but..." and give an explanation? Or should I just let it be?

Let it be. Let the judge raise the issue and don't point it out any more than you may have already in an addendum or anything else. Emphasize your strengths.

Thanks. A follow-up question. My connection is fairly tenuous. He wouldn't recognize me at a party, but he knows the family name. Am I correct in assuming that he saw something he liked in my application, otherwise he wouldn't bother with the interview? It's not as if we are best friends or anything, and no one would be upset if he passed me over for an interview.

[Anonymous User]

Barker in Indianapolis made calls as well (on Friday). A friend of mine has an interview with her.

[Anonymous User]

I have an interview with a D.ct. judge this week, and I'm sure it's because of a family connection, not because of grades. My grades are OK, but not great, but there is a strong upward trend in substantive classes during 2L. Should I tackle that directly in my interview? Just say something like "I know my grades are probably below what you like to see, but..." and give an explanation? Or should I just let it be?

Let it be. Let the judge raise the issue and don't point it out any more than you may have already in an addendum or anything else. Emphasize your strengths.

Thanks. A follow-up question. My connection is fairly tenuous. He wouldn't recognize me at a party, but he knows the family name. Am I correct in assuming that he saw something he liked in my application, otherwise he wouldn't bother with the interview? It's not as if we are best friends or anything, and no one would be upset if he passed me over for an interview.

Yes. I would not assume a federal judge wastes his valuable time giving feel-good interviews to the kids of his friends' friends. And I wouldn't second guess my opportunities. Have some confidence!

[Anonymous User]

I'd be interested in more info on NDTX and EDTX judges as well.

Anymore news on Texas judges?

EDTX Magistrate called early last week -- successful parlay for District Judge in the same courthouse.

[Anonymous User]

Here's a list:

Aspen (NDIll)
Brimmer (DCo)
Bucklo (NDIll)
Crabb (WDWis)
Doty (DMinn)
Melloy (8th Cir.)
Noel (DMinn)
Pallmeyer (NDIll) - reportedly called someone
Reade (NDIowa)
St. Eve (NDIll)
Tunheim (DMinn)
Zagel (NDIll)

[Anonymous User]

Rejection notice via OSCAR for Doty in Minn.

[Anonymous User]

Here's a list:

Aspen (NDIll)
Brimmer (DCo)
Bucklo (NDIll)
Crabb (WDWis)
Doty (DMinn)
Melloy (8th Cir.)
Noel (DMinn)
Pallmeyer (NDIll) - reportedly called someone
Reade (NDIowa)
St. Eve (NDIll)
Tunheim (DMinn)
Zagel (NDIll)

Is this a list of judges who have called, or who have not? Thanks!

[Anonymous User]

Got a rejection email from Doty just minutes ago.

[Anonymous User]

Here's a list:

Aspen (NDIll)
Brimmer (DCo)
Bucklo (NDIll)
Crabb (WDWis)
Doty (DMinn)
Melloy (8th Cir.)
Noel (DMinn)
Pallmeyer (NDIll) - reportedly called someone
Reade (NDIowa)
St. Eve (NDIll)
Tunheim (DMinn)
Zagel (NDIll)

Is this a list of judges who have called, or who have not? Thanks!

would be people who HAVE called. not sure of the source of this list, but would be interested to hear.

[Anonymous User]

Here's a list:

Aspen (NDIll)
Brimmer (DCo)
Bucklo (NDIll)
Crabb (WDWis)
Doty (DMinn) - sent at least three rejections through OSCAR
Melloy (8th Cir.)
Noel (DMinn)
Pallmeyer (NDIll) - reportedly called someone
Reade (NDIowa)
St. Eve (NDIll)
Tunheim (DMinn)
Zagel (NDIll)

Is this a list of judges who have called, or who have not? Thanks!

would be people who HAVE called. not sure of the source of this list, but would be interested to hear.

Sorry, no, that's a list of judges I'm interested to know if they've called. ditto on the Doty rejection.

[Anonymous User]

Here's a list:

Aspen (NDIll)
Brimmer (DCo)
Bucklo (NDIll)
Crabb (WDWis)
Doty (DMinn) - sent at least three rejections through OSCAR
Melloy (8th Cir.)
Noel (DMinn)
Pallmeyer (NDIll) - reportedly called someone
Reade (NDIowa)
St. Eve (NDIll)
Tunheim (DMinn)
Zagel (NDIll)

Is this a list of judges who have called, or who have not? Thanks!

would be people who HAVE called. not sure of the source of this list, but would be interested to hear.

Sorry, no, that's a list of judges I'm interested to know if they've called. ditto on the Doty rejection.

oooooh, sorry for the confusion. i'm the one who said it was judges who "HAVE called." faulty assumption. pallmeyer and aspen HAVE called.

to person who posted the list: do you know anything about other NDIll judges?

[Anonymous User]

oooooh, sorry for the confusion. i'm the one who said it was judges who "HAVE called." faulty assumption. pallmeyer and aspen HAVE called.

to person who posted the list: do you know anything about other NDIll judges?

No, I sure don't—sorry! Everything I know is in the last iteration of that list.

[Anonymous User]

Here's a list of judges I applied to:

Aspen (NDIll) - has called
Brimmer (DCo)
Bucklo (NDIll)
Crabb (WDWis)
Doty (DMinn) - sent at least three rejections through OSCAR
Melloy (8th Cir.)
Noel (DMinn)
Pallmeyer (NDIll) - has called
Reade (NDIowa)
St. Eve (NDIll)
Tunheim (DMinn)
Zagel (NDIll)

- has called
I'll continue to update for your convenience, if you continue to tell me if you hear of any of these judges calling.

[Anonymous User]

By the way, does anyone know of any other site where we might find who's been calling, etc.?

[Anonymous User]

Down to 35 on the CoA hope list because a judge graduated to the new 2013 late mover list.

DC: Randolph
First:
Second: Winter, Newman, Lynch, Straub
Third: Vanaskie
Fourth: Shedd
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Clay, Keith, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch,
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Riley, Shepherd, Loken
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder, Rawlinson
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Barkett, Carnes, Fay

(These are CoA judges we have not heard made calls)

At this point, it seems probable that the judges on the hope list were either not hiring 3Ls to begin with, or have not made calls. Let us see if we can narrow it down further. One way is to consider those judges on the list that accepted applications on Oscar: Melloy, Bye, Riley, Barkett, Kleinfeld, Cook, Siler, Vanaskie, and possibly others (let me know). In addition, consider the judges who have a reported history of late offers: Vanaskie, Rawlinson, Hull, Fay, and possibly others (let me know). Vanaskie appears on both lists. Together, there at least 11 judges out of the 36 who have probably not made calls.

Judges that made calls on Monday or later, for future reference (2013 Late Movers):
Tashima (9th)

[Anonymous User]

Holding steady at 36 on the CoA hope list:
At this point, it seems probable that the judges on the hope list were either not hiring 3Ls to begin with, or have not made calls. Let us see if we can narrow it down further.

Rawlinson usually hires 3Ls (certainly has from my school the last couple of years). She just moves much later than everybody else. Think October, even.

[Anonymous User]

McBryde in Fort Worth is done hiring, per an email from his office.

[Anonymous User]

Here's a list:

Aspen (NDIll)
Brimmer (DCo)
Bucklo (NDIll)
Crabb (WDWis)
Doty (DMinn) - sent at least three rejections through OSCAR
Melloy (8th Cir.)
Noel (DMinn)
Pallmeyer (NDIll) - reportedly called someone
Reade (NDIowa)
St. Eve (NDIll)
Tunheim (DMinn)
Zagel (NDIll)

Is this a list of judges who have called, or who have not? Thanks!

would be people who HAVE called. not sure of the source of this list, but would be interested to hear.

Sorry, no, that's a list of judges I'm interested to know if they've called. ditto on the Doty rejection.

Zagel called this afternoon.

[Anonymous User]

S.D. Cal. anyone? Sammartino? Houston? Miller?

Sammartino has made calls.

[Anonymous User]

Zagel called this afternoon.

thanks, updated.

[Anonymous User]

S.D. Cal. anyone? Sammartino? Houston? Miller?

Sammartino has made calls.

Today or Friday?

[Anonymous User]

Holding steady at 36 on the CoA hope list:

DC: Randolph
First:
Second: Winter, Newman, Lynch, Straub
Third: Vanaskie
Fourth: Shedd
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Clay, Keith, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch,
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Riley, Shepherd, Loken
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder, Tashima, Rawlinson
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Barkett, Carnes, Fay

(These are CoA judges we have not heard made calls)

At this point, it seems probable that the judges on the hope list were either not hiring 3Ls to begin with, or have not made calls. Let us see if we can narrow it down further. One way is to consider those judges on the list that accepted applications on Oscar: Melloy, Bye, Riley, Barkett, Kleinfeld, Cook, Siler, Vanaskie, and possibly others (let me know). In addition, consider the judges who have a reported history of late offers: Vanaskie, Rawlinson, Hull, Fay, and possibly others (let me know). Vanaskie appears on both lists. Together, there at least 11 judges out of the 36 who have probably not made calls.

If anyone hears from these judges today or in the future, we should note that for future cycles.

Tashima made at least some calls this afternoon.

[Anonymous User]

Not sure if anyone in this thread applied for staff attorney clerkships, but the 7th Circuit is giving interview offers via email.

[Anonymous User]

Any Florida district court movement?

[Anonymous User]

DNJ still calling.