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[Anonymous User]

Anyone has baker hostetler offer?

Offers are out.

[Anonymous User]

any movement on either AGG or SGR? had phone screener with former and cb with latter, both over a week ago and total radio silence.

[North]

any movement on either AGG or SGR? had phone screener with former and cb with latter, both over a week ago and total radio silence.

AGG is done per an internal e-mail reported in the AGG CB----->Offer thread

[North]

Officially struck out in ATL a couple days ago. I bid (high up, too) every ATL firm that came to OGI, mass mailed, and hit up all the ATL Symplicity postings. Came away with one CB, and one on-site screener that I had to pay my way for. Even had my OCS call the CB firm to tell them it was my top choice and I'd accept on the spot if they offered me. Dings at both. Y'all weren't joking. It's a bloodbath.

Next year's bid-list builders beware. Bruce Wayne speaks the truth.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone do a callback with Nelson Mullins in Atlanta. I had one this past week and haven't heard back yet.

[Anonymous User]

Kilpatrick post-CB ding a few days ago. CB was early Sept

[Anonymous User]

Baker Donelson movement?

[Anonymous User]

Baker Donelson movement?

Haven't heard from them since my screener. womp.

[Anonymous User]

anyone hear from Smith Gambrell lately?

[Anonymous User]

nada on SGR. had CB over two weeks ago.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know the starting (and/or subsequent) salaries at Troutman, Baker, or K&S?

[North]

Does anyone know the starting (and/or subsequent) salaries at Troutman, Baker, or K&S?

Let me Google that for you.

King & Spalding: $135,000
Troutman: $145,000
Baker Hostetler: $140,000
Baker Donelson: probably $120,000

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know the starting (and/or subsequent) salaries at Troutman, Baker, or K&S?

Let me Google that for you.

King & Spalding: $135,000
Troutman: $145,000
Baker Hostetler: $140,000
Baker Donelson: probably $120,000

Sorry, left out two important letters.

Starting *IP* salaries.

[Anonymous User]

Is this salary figure accurate? I though the market salary is 145,000.

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=120 ... -Recession

[Anonymous User]

Is this salary figure accurate? I though the market salary is 145,000.

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=120 ... -Recession

It is accurate. "market" for non IP has been $135k in ATL for quite a while.

[Anonymous User]

I just noticed that Troutman is not on NALP. Are there any other Atlanta firms that I should definitely be aware of and are not on NALP before I mass-mail on Dec. 1?

[wwwcol]

I just noticed that Troutman is not on NALP. Are there any other Atlanta firms that I should definitely be aware of and are not on NALP before I mass-mail on Dec. 1?

This question is really open ended

This thread has mentioned all the Atl BL firms. Was that not helpful enough?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know the starting (and/or subsequent) salaries at Troutman, Baker, or K&S?

Let me Google that for you.

King & Spalding: $135,000
Troutman: $145,000
Baker Hostetler: $140,000
Baker Donelson: probably $120,000

Sorry, left out two important letters.

Starting *IP* salaries.

160k

[fats provolone]

i don't think k&s IP is 160, unless that changed recently

[Anonymous User]

i don't think k&s IP is 160, unless that changed recently

I don't think it is, don't have current numbers.

Anyone have lockstep progressions around town?

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				Lock-step?	1st Year IP		Min. Hours
Alston & Bird			Yes, 		160			1900
Kilpatrick Townsend	Merit?	160			1900
Finnegan				Yes, 		160			1920+80 pro bono
Fish & Richardson		Yes, 		160			1900
DLA Piper					160	
Dow Lohnes			Yes		160	
Ballard Spahr	Combination lock-step/merit	150	1900
Jones Day			No		150			2000 (2013 avg 2259)
Paul Hastings		Yes		150			2000
Sutherland		1st, 2nd yr, then merit	145 + 15 deferred	1950+450 firm develop
Baker Hoestetler		No?		140			1950
Hunton & Williams	Combination145	
AGG	Combination, range		135			1800
Troutman Sanders	Merit		135 (IP?)	
Merchant & Gould	Combination	125	
Smith Gambrell	Combination	125 (IP?)	

[Anonymous User]

can anybody comment on the culture of King & Spalding v. Alston & Bird? Or the perception of their predominate practice groups, compensation, etc... How are both perceived in Atlanta? How are they both perceived in NYC?

[Anonymous User]

Why Troutman is not in http://www.nalpdirectory.com/? I can't find any summer associate information about this firm.

[Omerta]

can anybody comment on the culture of King & Spalding v. Alston & Bird? Or the perception of their predominate practice groups, compensation, etc... How are both perceived in Atlanta? How are they both perceived in NYC?

No real differences on a firm-wide basis; you're splitting hairs. People say that K&S is more intense hours-wise and more formal, but I really don't think there's a difference in practice. The associates I know at both firms are billing a lot, and their QOL depends on which partners they work for, not whether they're at A&B or K&S. Both firms have practice groups that are known to be very hard on associates, but it's more of a practice group thing. For example, I have a friend at A&B. He really enjoys working there, but other associates in the same group and same sub-specialty are super miserable because they work for an insane partner. (Moral of this story: do your diligence on who you're going to work for).

Both firms have roughly equivalent perceptions among lawyers and non-lawyers are well-regarded in ATL. Can't say anything about NY impressions. My personal impression is that I wasn't very impressed with their work product (I'm a clerk). It wasn't horrible, but I wouldn't pay the rates they charge if that's what I got.

As for practice groups, they're generally highly-regarded and differentiated only in terms of who their client base is. For example, K&S does more debtor-side bankruptcy work while A&B does more creditor-side stuff. K&S has a phenomenal products liability group, but A&B is much better for privacy and data breach litigation. K&S probably wins on leveraged finance, and A&B has a slightly stronger M&A team. I think trying to compare them for "quality" is a waste of time; it's more about sub-specialties that I doubt someone could make a meaningful/informed decision unless you are really into a specific field of law.

As for compensation, they both start at ATL market. I believe A&B has more salary compression as you advance but don't have firsthand knowledge.

[Anonymous User]

can anybody comment on the culture of King & Spalding v. Alston & Bird? Or the perception of their predominate practice groups, compensation, etc... How are both perceived in Atlanta? How are they both perceived in NYC?

No real differences on a firm-wide basis; you're splitting hairs. People say that K&S is more intense hours-wise and more formal, but I really don't think there's a difference in practice. The associates I know at both firms are billing a lot, and their QOL depends on which partners they work for, not whether they're at A&B or K&S. Both firms have practice groups that are known to be very hard on associates, but it's more of a practice group thing. For example, I have a friend at A&B. He really enjoys working there, but other associates in the same group and same sub-specialty are super miserable because they work for an insane partner. (Moral of this story: do your diligence on who you're going to work for).

Both firms have roughly equivalent perceptions among lawyers and non-lawyers are well-regarded in ATL. Can't say anything about NY impressions. My personal impression is that I wasn't very impressed with their work product (I'm a clerk). It wasn't horrible, but I wouldn't pay the rates they charge if that's what I got.

As for practice groups, they're generally highly-regarded and differentiated only in terms of who their client base is. For example, K&S does more debtor-side bankruptcy work while A&B does more creditor-side stuff. K&S has a phenomenal products liability group, but A&B is much better for privacy and data breach litigation. K&S probably wins on leveraged finance, and A&B has a slightly stronger M&A team. I think trying to compare them for "quality" is a waste of time; it's more about sub-specialties that I doubt someone could make a meaningful/informed decision unless you are really into a specific field of law.

As for compensation, they both start at ATL market. I believe A&B has more salary compression as you advance but don't have firsthand knowledge.

Pretty much confirmed what I have heard: KS is a sweat shop. Do u know anything about Troutman? I know it is not as prestigious (or compensation) as KS or AB, but I heard there is a good life work balance over there.

[Anonymous User]

As for compensation, they both start at ATL market. I believe A&B has more salary compression as you advance but don't have firsthand knowledge.

What is salary compression?