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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:59 pm

Has anyone heard anything from Reed Smith?

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:02 pm

What is the deal with Norton Rose and Haynes and Boone in Texas? Every other legitimate firm there has matched at this point. NRF doesn't surprise me as much as HayBoo who dolled out market+ bonuses this last year. I am guessing these firms have to match if they expect to pull any kind of talent recruiting wise, but is there any way to explain the wait?

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by smokeylarue » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:11 pm

Every month they delay is a few thousand more in each partner's pocket? Maybe some firms are going to milk it until OCI....

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

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Anonymous User wrote:What is the deal with Norton Rose and Haynes and Boone in Texas? Every other legitimate firm there has matched at this point. NRF doesn't surprise me as much as HayBoo who dolled out market+ bonuses this last year. I am guessing these firms have to match if they expect to pull any kind of talent recruiting wise, but is there any way to explain the wait?
I could be wrong but I don't think NRF was anywhere near market, except for first years starting at $160 base, even prior to this raise.

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:06 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:What is the deal with Norton Rose and Haynes and Boone in Texas? Every other legitimate firm there has matched at this point. NRF doesn't surprise me as much as HayBoo who dolled out market+ bonuses this last year. I am guessing these firms have to match if they expect to pull any kind of talent recruiting wise, but is there any way to explain the wait?
I could be wrong but I don't think NRF was anywhere near market, except for first years starting at $160 base, even prior to this raise.
I think this is correct, but they haven't even jumped to 180 yet. This cannot be the best idea when their summers are splitting at other firms who have already matched. They have been struggling for a while I have heard, I would not be surprised if they match $180 but then do some weird black box non-lockstep raise system.

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by North » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:32 pm

Greenberg Traurig just matched.

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by North » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:33 pm

At least for NY, not sure about other offices. Reliable source.


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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!!

Post by smaug » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:45 pm

smaug wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote:
smaug wrote:
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BizBro wrote:How long til rest of v50 match?
In a dark way I'm interested in seeing who won't match. This could be the point where segmentation in the top-tier of firms is finally and concretely reflected in salaries: the firms who are doing well and can afford this jump vs. those that really, really can't and won't even bother. Top 40 or 50 most profitable AmLaw 100 firms will likely make the jump, but will low-profitable or struggling firms even try (a good half of the AmLaw 200 have had some rough times lately)?
Tar bet that all v50 in NYC match or exceed?
K - which side do you want?
I'm saying I would take they do match or exceed
how close am I on this?

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by MCFC » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:52 pm

According to this, just Jones Day and Linklaters left. http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 3&t=265487

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by NoChainz » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:07 pm

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Polsinelli announced raises, allegedly. Amounts not known.
They weren't paying market before, anywhere.

Also heard they raised. Not sure to what though
Offices in more expensive cities went from $145 to $160k. Chicago, LA, DC, Dallas. Not sure about SF/Boston/Houston (Boston and Houston are brand new anyway).

Phoenix, Kansas City, St. Louis, and Denver went from $125k to $135k. Not sure where the other offices fit in, but those aren't large ones to begin with and not sure if they had many young associates.
Esoteric Q but: anybody know if other KC firms (Stinson, Husch, etc.) are raising at all/what their salary scales look like now?
SA at Husch, compensation got brought up during the summer retreat. Partners seemed unaware that Polsinelli and Cave moved, they only laughed about NY.

My guess is Husch will match, but not Stinson.
Bryan Cave matched?
Bryan Cave didn't match. They moved up to 160k in DC/NYC effective Jan. 1, 2017.

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!!

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smaug wrote:
smaug wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote:
smaug wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote:
BizBro wrote:How long til rest of v50 match?
In a dark way I'm interested in seeing who won't match. This could be the point where segmentation in the top-tier of firms is finally and concretely reflected in salaries: the firms who are doing well and can afford this jump vs. those that really, really can't and won't even bother. Top 40 or 50 most profitable AmLaw 100 firms will likely make the jump, but will low-profitable or struggling firms even try (a good half of the AmLaw 200 have had some rough times lately)?
Tar bet that all v50 in NYC match or exceed?
K - which side do you want?
I'm saying I would take they do match or exceed
how close am I on this?
Depends - are we counting firms that "match" but don't actually follow the full Cravath scale (i.e. K&L)?

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by smaug » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:12 pm

Oh I didn't think about that ambiguity

I thought just for first years. It would be unwinnable otherwise due to black box

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by TLSModBot » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:20 pm

smaug wrote:Oh I didn't think about that ambiguity

I thought just for first years. It would be unwinnable otherwise due to black box
That's fine. Jones Day and Linklaters then.

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:11 pm

North wrote:Greenberg Traurig just matched.

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Chicago office matched to 180 as well. Other offices may not have heard anything yet.

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!!

Post by TripTrip » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:36 pm

Capitol_Idea wrote:
smaug wrote:
smaug wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote:
smaug wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote:
BizBro wrote:How long til rest of v50 match?
In a dark way I'm interested in seeing who won't match. This could be the point where segmentation in the top-tier of firms is finally and concretely reflected in salaries: the firms who are doing well and can afford this jump vs. those that really, really can't and won't even bother. Top 40 or 50 most profitable AmLaw 100 firms will likely make the jump, but will low-profitable or struggling firms even try (a good half of the AmLaw 200 have had some rough times lately)?
Tar bet that all v50 in NYC match or exceed?
K - which side do you want?
I'm saying I would take they do match or exceed
how close am I on this?
Depends - are we counting firms that "match" but don't actually follow the full Cravath scale (i.e. K&L)?
Also, is this the NYC V50 or the national V50?

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:26 pm

saw the law 360 article that mentioned a Kansas City firm going to $180k

it's Hughes Hubbard, who just downsized all the way to precisely one KC associate

shouldn't that guy get half of the combined salary of everyone he killed in the arena or was I misled as to how all of this works?

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

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Anonymous User wrote:saw the law 360 article that mentioned a Kansas City firm going to $180k

it's Hughes Hubbard, who just downsized all the way to precisely one KC associate

shouldn't that guy get half of the combined salary of everyone he killed in the arena or was I misled as to how all of this works?
Found him

Brendan Franzoni DOMINATING the KC BBQ scene, giving your girlfriend the "dry rub" before CRUSHING Boulevard six-packs in Chiefs box seats with Yosemite Sam Yemington while Polsinelli bros close the shades and spend 45 minutes scrolling for a Tori Black video they haven't seen yet.
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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by Tiago Splitter » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:46 pm

Brendan Franzoni and Yosemite Sam Yemington win this round. The rest of us are still suckers.

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by bern victim » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:50 pm

life as the only associate in a biglaw office has to be such shit though

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by Big Shrimpin » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:56 pm

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:saw the law 360 article that mentioned a Kansas City firm going to $180k

it's Hughes Hubbard, who just downsized all the way to precisely one KC associate

shouldn't that guy get half of the combined salary of everyone he killed in the arena or was I misled as to how all of this works?
Found him

Brendan Franzoni DOMINATING the KC BBQ scene, giving your girlfriend the "dry rub" before CRUSHING Boulevard six-packs in Chiefs box seats with Yosemite Sam Yemington while Polsinelli bros close the shades and spend 45 minutes scrolling for a Tori Black video they haven't seen yet.

YOSEMITE SAM YEMINGTON

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Re: NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.)

Post by Monochromatic Oeuvre » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:01 pm

bern victim wrote:life as the only associate in a biglaw office has to be such shit though
(Jones Day midlevel holding boombox outside partner's house)

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