Pre-OCI 2021 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Since there's so much DC interest: screener invites at Cleary and Skadden in last 48 hours. Pretty far above top 10% at GULC.

whattup fellow hoya I was thinking about applying to Cleary but the short acceptance window kinda sucks

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have a timeline for STB callback —> offer? And did anyone else get a Cleary CB? For both: relative stats? Thanks!

For STB, it seems like if you’re a lock, it’s about 2-3 days from CB. However, ITT people have reported a week+ to offer. In 2019 they gave some June interviewees offers in early July (second week) as well. It seems if you’re not a lock, they want to interview a few more people before considering you and that can take an additional 1-2 weeks.

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

Could be Latham, they have the same sort of “early decision” type deal with their pre-oci applicants.

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

Yeah isn’t there a NALP policy against this? Could result in being banned from schools’ OCIs too

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

Hell I'm just thankful to have an offer at a great firm. I've already engaged in pre-OCI with the firms I'd consider choosing over my offer. They could have told me to decide in a week and I'd still be stoked

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

It sucks but I'm honestly surprised more firms don't do it, otherwise what's really the point of pre-OCI?

Then again unless you're a top firm you probably can't because the very best candidates just won't pre-OCI with you. Nobody in the top 20% at a T14 is locking themselves into some random V50 without seeing what they can get at OCI.

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

It sucks but I'm honestly surprised more firms don't do it, otherwise what's really the point of pre-OCI?

Then again unless you're a top firm you probably can't because the very best candidates just won't pre-OCI with you. Nobody in the top 20% at a T14 is locking themselves into some random V50 without seeing what they can get at OCI.

I think this is why Latham hasn’t been going crazy yet but I feel like they’ll start picking up their pre-OCI activity in mid July like Cleary

[Anonymous User]

Offer from Weil. CB couple days ago. Just got the call

[Anonymous User]

Offer from Weil. CB couple days ago. Just got the call

Congrats! Mind sharing approx stats?

[Anonymous User]

Offer from Weil. CB couple days ago. Just got the call

Congrats! Mind sharing approx stats?

T30, school doesnt give rankings but anecdotally top 5%

[Anonymous User]

Anyone find it interesting that the NYC based firms are starting to move in DC, but crickets from the top DC firms? Maybe they think it’s harder to pull top students away from the DC powerhouses?

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

Yeah isn’t there a NALP policy against this? Could result in being banned from schools’ OCIs too

lmao oh you sweet summer child...

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

Yeah isn’t there a NALP policy against this? Could result in being banned from schools’ OCIs too

lmao oh you sweet summer child...

haha ok can you explain then?

[Anonymous User]

If it’s any consolation I got an offer from a V10 and the offer window expires same day as Cleary…so one way or another I’ll be avoiding OCI

Who? Name and shame. That's ridiculous.

Yeah isn’t there a NALP policy against this? Could result in being banned from schools’ OCIs too

lmao oh you sweet summer child...

haha ok can you explain then?

[Anonymous User]

lmao oh you sweet summer child...

haha ok can you explain then?

The firms don't give a damn about NALP or school policies. I had a recruiter tell me that outright once, much to my amusement.

They hire a ton of people from my school. The chances OCS kicks them out of OCI for not following some BS rule about offer deadlines? Zero. And they know it.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone find it interesting that the NYC based firms are starting to move in DC, but crickets from the top DC firms? Maybe they think it’s harder to pull top students away from the DC powerhouses?

I'm at HYS and I can assure you that DC powerhouses have definitely moved. People are just not posting here.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone find it interesting that the NYC based firms are starting to move in DC, but crickets from the top DC firms? Maybe they think it’s harder to pull top students away from the DC powerhouses?

I'm at HYS and I can assure you that DC powerhouses have definitely moved. People are just not posting here.

do you mind sharing which ones you've heard that have moved?

[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

Yeah this is pretty much all wrong. Maybe this is true come actual OCI but pre-OCI timelines are a lot different so the comparison to the Winter OCI thread doesn't really hold. Literally today someone reported an offer from DPW over two weeks after CB, and other people have reported rejections from DPW. There's no way that single person could have been waitlisted and gotten an offer after "enough of their top candidates decline[d] offers" given how few interviews they've conducted at this point.

I think a single person (maybe 2?) reported an STB offer even though STB has been interviewing for weeks. Some firms have explicitly instructed interviewees to not be surprised if it takes weeks to hear anything.

My dude I know of 5 STB offers at my school alone. Please don't make the mistake of extrapolating from the posts here.

I know a bunch too, but they all took more than two days. Seems to take a week or so.

Right, the point was not that STB has given only an offer or two and that everyone is reporting them here, but that OP's timeline is just not at all accurate based on the offers that actually have been reported here.

[Anonymous User]

A classmate of mine just got an offer from a firm in DC. One day turnaround from CB to offer. DC is moving quickly.

We go to a T30 school.

[Anonymous User]

tons of offers have gone out today in NYC, just about every typical pre-oci firm you can think of in the V20

[Hamilton51]

What does a rejection less than 24 hours of a CB mean? I interviewed with a v10 yesterday and thought it went super well. I previously met with a lot of associates and the managing partner offered me the CB after a networking/screener meeting. I can't help but think the CB wasn't even taken seriously because i was rejected so fast.

[Anonymous User]

What does a rejection less than 24 hours of a CB mean? I interviewed with a v10 yesterday and thought it went super well. I previously met with a lot of associates and the managing partner offered me the CB after a networking/screener meeting. I can't help but think the CB wasn't even taken seriously because i was rejected so fast.

did they see your grades before? how are they/what school approx? they don’t waste time doing cbs. either they didn’t like you or they didn’t like your grades/school

[Hamilton51]

What does a rejection less than 24 hours of a CB mean? I interviewed with a v10 yesterday and thought it went super well. I previously met with a lot of associates and the managing partner offered me the CB after a networking/screener meeting. I can't help but think the CB wasn't even taken seriously because i was rejected so fast.

did they see your grades before? how are they/what school approx? they don’t waste time doing cbs. either they didn’t like you or they didn’t like your grades/school

Yes, after my screener I sent my resume and transcript to the partner and got the callback scheduled. Grades are3.5 at Vandy (we don't rank)

[Anonymous User]

What does a rejection less than 24 hours of a CB mean? I interviewed with a v10 yesterday and thought it went super well. I previously met with a lot of associates and the managing partner offered me the CB after a networking/screener meeting. I can't help but think the CB wasn't even taken seriously because i was rejected so fast.

did they see your grades before? how are they/what school approx? they don’t waste time doing cbs. either they didn’t like you or they didn’t like your grades/school

Yes, after my screener I sent my resume and transcript to the partner and got the callback scheduled. Grades are3.5 at Vandy (we don't rank)

Assuming this is NYC it’s probably your grades/school; 3.5 from vandy seems like it would be a reach for any of the NY V10s based on my experience. but you maybe rubbed someone the wrong way. Either way, don’t let it keep you from shooting your shot and grinding for other offers. If they didn’t want to offer you, you probably wouldn’t have enjoyed working there anyway