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Desert Fox wrote:I fucking hate how much lawyers focus on typos. Boomer partners constantly send out typo ridden work product but if they catch you, there is hell to pay.

Every lawyer thinks their own typo is a simple mistake, and everyone else's is a symptom of general sloppiness.
Got an email from a biglaw boomer partner today that said "pls" instead of please. :|
Pls handle. Thx.

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Mr. Fancy wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I fucking hate how much lawyers focus on typos. Boomer partners constantly send out typo ridden work product but if they catch you, there is hell to pay.

Every lawyer thinks their own typo is a simple mistake, and everyone else's is a symptom of general sloppiness.
Got an email from a biglaw boomer partner today that said "pls" instead of please. :|
Pls handle. Thx.
It also lacked punctuation and (any) capitalization.

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Anonymous User wrote:
Mr. Fancy wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I fucking hate how much lawyers focus on typos. Boomer partners constantly send out typo ridden work product but if they catch you, there is hell to pay.

Every lawyer thinks their own typo is a simple mistake, and everyone else's is a symptom of general sloppiness.
Got an email from a biglaw boomer partner today that said "pls" instead of please. :|
Pls handle. Thx.
It also lacked punctuation and (any) capitalization.
In other words, the big law boomer partner is communicating like a millennial. I'm telling y'all: Millennials and Boomers have way more in common than either realizes.

(Yes, I'm a bitter Gen-X lawyer.)

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Post by PennBull » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:15 am

rpupkin wrote: (Yes, I'm a bitter Gen-X lawyer.)
I much prefer working with Gen X-ers than retard millennials

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rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Mr. Fancy wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I fucking hate how much lawyers focus on typos. Boomer partners constantly send out typo ridden work product but if they catch you, there is hell to pay.

Every lawyer thinks their own typo is a simple mistake, and everyone else's is a symptom of general sloppiness.
Got an email from a biglaw boomer partner today that said "pls" instead of please. :|
Pls handle. Thx.
It also lacked punctuation and (any) capitalization.
In other words, the big law boomer partner is communicating like a millennial. I'm telling y'all: Millennials and Boomers have way more in common than either realizes.

(Yes, I'm a bitter Gen-X lawyer.)
Ew, a gen x associate.

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rpupkin wrote:(Yes, I'm a bitter Gen-X lawyer.)
my people.

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Anonymous User wrote: Got an email from a biglaw boomer partner today that said "pls" instead of please. :|
oh, the horror!

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A. Nony Mouse wrote:
rpupkin wrote:(Yes, I'm a bitter Gen-X lawyer.)
my people.
(Father died in the gulf war...when she was 18.)

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Post by los blancos » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:24 am

PennBull wrote:
rpupkin wrote: (Yes, I'm a bitter Gen-X lawyer.)
I much prefer working with Gen X-ers than retard millennials
working with Gen X-ers >>>> millenials >>>>>>>>>>> boomers

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I was told the problem with typos is they make it harder for someone to trust your substantive work product, which makes sense if you're more junior. I agree a typo isn't a big deal though.

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Anonymous User wrote:I was told the problem with typos is they make it harder for someone to trust your substantive work product, which makes sense if you're more junior. I agree a typo isn't a big deal though.
If someone does good work but you "don't trust it" because of spelling errors that's just dumb

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Post by rpupkin » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:43 am

seespotrun wrote:
What is your favorite scene in Reality Bites? And what did you do to deserve the life of a 40-year old associate?
I'm a young Gen-X'er, so both of your questions are off by a few years. And, really, what did anyone do to deserve the life of an associate at any age? But I think it's easier to deal with the stress and nonsense when you're in your 30s.

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Post by Nekrowizard » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:49 am

Anonymous User wrote:I was told the problem with typos is they make it harder for someone to trust your substantive work product, which makes sense if you're more junior. I agree a typo isn't a big deal though.
I suppose if a client ever bothers to read any of your shit and nobody fixes it, they probably can't figure out if your arguments are shitty, but they can probably tell if you can't spell.

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Post by fats provolone » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:53 am

I would just worry about doing good work but that's just me.

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Post by los blancos » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:58 am

Anonymous User wrote:I was told the problem with typos is they make it harder for someone to trust your substantive work product, which makes sense if you're more junior. I agree a typo isn't a big deal though.
Yeah I mean spending time and mental energy on somethign that can be fixed down the line by an assistant instead of concentrating on substantive issues makes so much sense.

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Post by los blancos » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:03 am

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I was told the problem with typos is they make it harder for someone to trust your substantive work product, which makes sense if you're more junior. I agree a typo isn't a big deal though.
That's what people say but I think that is dumb. Especially since partners make typos too. Even the best writers have editors. It's really hard to spot your own typos since you know what you mean.

I think typos are most important when you first start off have no reputation. One negative and people just write you off.

But it's absurd to not trust a person because of a typo. And you just know the people who do it would be just as butthurt if someone did it to them.

Worse some partners have personal pet peeves that aren't real rules. But you are retarded if you don't instinctively follow their rules.
At this point I just assume that everything in associate life runs counter to common sense and this is one of those things.

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Post by fats provolone » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:10 am

If you do bad substantive work you will get a much worse reputation and piss ppl off much more bc they actually have to do work to fix your shit

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Post by los blancos » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:11 am

fats provolone wrote:If you do bad substantive work you will get a much worse reputation and piss ppl off much more bc they actually have to do work to fix your shit
I think the concept of what is good substantive work can be so nebulous at times that bad lawyers will think your argument is bad because of dumb things like typos rather than the merits of said arguments.

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Post by fats provolone » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:16 am

I mean if ur really prone to mistakes I guess spend more time double checking but u only have so much time and effort to spend on tasks I wouldn't waste it extensively spell checking

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Post by dixiecupdrinking » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:22 am

I think the real issue with typos is they call attention to the fact that 85% of what lawyers do is overpriced common sense. If you were doing incredibly insightful analysis of some complex thing then a typo is whatever. If you're basically writing a memo that explains in 2000 words that the law in some area is exactly what you would expect it to be, then any old typo might be the last straw that makes a client say why the hell am I paying these people to turn out this garbage.

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Post by krads153 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:58 am

The i-bankers I've worked with make a ton of mistakes/typos all the time. Although they have bad/worse hours, that's what makes me think i-banking might be better than law...it's hard to be 100% on all the time in law when you're working 12-14+ hours a day. But I could totally work 16 hours a day and not GAF. (And yes, the rest of the US still only working 8 hours a day...)

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This discussion about typos has become exhilarating.

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