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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

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Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:42 am
thisismytlsuername wrote:
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Back to the original topic -- wow, Cece Xie had a legendarily bad take on this situation.
What is it/who is she?
She's a former Cooley associate (unrelated to the recent layoffs) who has made a name for herself as an ex-lawyer influencer. I think she might have a book deal for a book about how bad biglaw is. She's definitely insufferable, to use the word of a poster above.
Her take was that she compared big law conflict checks to a controlling significant other

https://www.tiktok.com/@cecexie/video/7 ... 0682422574

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

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Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:30 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:03 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:42 am
thisismytlsuername wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:00 am
Back to the original topic -- wow, Cece Xie had a legendarily bad take on this situation.
What is it/who is she?
She's a former Cooley associate (unrelated to the recent layoffs) who has made a name for herself as an ex-lawyer influencer. I think she might have a book deal for a book about how bad biglaw is. She's definitely insufferable, to use the word of a poster above.
Her take was that she compared big law conflict checks to a controlling significant other

https://www.tiktok.com/@cecexie/video/7 ... 0682422574
I now fully support banning TikTok.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:17 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:30 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:03 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:42 am
thisismytlsuername wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:00 am
Back to the original topic -- wow, Cece Xie had a legendarily bad take on this situation.
What is it/who is she?
She's a former Cooley associate (unrelated to the recent layoffs) who has made a name for herself as an ex-lawyer influencer. I think she might have a book deal for a book about how bad biglaw is. She's definitely insufferable, to use the word of a poster above.
Her take was that she compared big law conflict checks to a controlling significant other

https://www.tiktok.com/@cecexie/video/7 ... 0682422574
I now fully support banning TikTok.
A better analogy would be "hey boyfriend I saw another really hot guy and I want to sleep with him, and is it okay if I'm unavailable when I'm sleeping with him, and I can only go if the boyfriend says yes."

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by whatchuwant » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am

So much bitterness (and jealousy?) in this thread. As someone who worked in biglaw, I completely understand the mental gymnastics one needs to go through to cope with the fact that you could be doing something else, that you have other options than painstakingly reading figurative rooms full of documents to assemble evidence, other options than constantly presenting half-truths in briefs (lying is bad for the soul), other options than meticulously reading boring contracts for typos or, if the other side is sneaky, that one provision that could end your career if not caught . . . I get that biglaw is a really shitty job that requires layers of psychological defense mechanisms because -- once you discover that you can make the same or more money elsewhere -- you will have no choice but to run out the door screaming.

I understand why you are all attacking her like this, sadly anonymously. Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.

But can I be one person to praise her? She chose joy, happiness, carefree living and life over biglaw and is making it work.

She wasn't fired, she chose to leave, a job that many in this thread did not have the grades to attain in the first place. I doubt she will look back on that decision with regret. You all, on the other hand, may at some point realize that the life of tediousness, bitterness, poor health, and other issues you've chosen for yourself via your job -- when you could have done so many other things -- was a bad choice.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by thisismytlsuername » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:31 am

whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
So much bitterness (and jealousy?) in this thread. As someone who worked in biglaw, I completely understand the mental gymnastics one needs to go through to cope with the fact that you could be doing something else, that you have other options than painstakingly reading figurative rooms full of documents to assemble evidence, other options than constantly presenting half-truths in briefs (lying is bad for the soul), other options than meticulously reading boring contracts for typos or, if the other side is sneaky, that one provision that could end your career if not caught . . . I get that biglaw is a really shitty job that requires layers of psychological defense mechanisms because -- once you discover that you can make the same or more money elsewhere -- you will have no choice but to run out the door screaming.

I understand why you are all attacking her like this, sadly anonymously. Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.

But can I be one person to praise her? She chose joy, happiness, carefree living and life over biglaw and is making it work.

She wasn't fired, she chose to leave, a job that many in this thread did not have the grades to attain in the first place. I doubt she will look back on that decision with regret. You all, on the other hand, may at some point realize that the life of tediousness, bitterness, poor health, and other issues you've chosen for yourself via your job -- when you could have done so many other things -- was a bad choice.
lol hi enigivensunday. Surprised you didn't quote any bible verses at us!

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by whatchuwant » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:34 am

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Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:31 am

lol hi enigivensunday. Surprised you didn't quote any bible verses at us!
I'm not her, but I emailed her and everyone's email address I could find at BCG search as you can see below. Any way, good luck to you all. I hope you find some happiness one day.

------- Original Message -------
From: biglawredditor <biglawredditor@proton.me>
Date: On Thursday, March 30th, 2023 at 4:21 AM
Subject: Fw: Attacks on Christianity on Harrison Barnes/BCG Atrorney Search's top-law-schools forum and other reasons why it may be dying
To: enipopoola@enigivensunday.com <enipopoola@enigivensunday.com>

FYI, I read about you on the top-law-schools forum below (warning, it's a bunch of hateful people attacking you) viewtopic.php?f=23&t=314123 and was so offended I replied with this post, which I'm waiting for mods to approve, and then emailed the owners of the forum in the email below. Good luck to you and be sure that people who follow Christianity will attain a joy unavailable to people filled with hate.

***

So much bitterness (and jealousy?) in this thread. As someone who worked in biglaw, I completely understand the mental gymnastics one needs to go through to cope with the fact that you could be doing something else, that you have other options than painstakingly reading figurative rooms full of documents to assemble evidence, other options than constantly presenting half-truths in briefs (lying is bad for the soul), other options than meticulously reading boring contracts for typos or, if the other side is sneaky, that one provision that could end your career if not caught . . . I get that biglaw is a really shitty job that requires layers of psychological defense mechanisms because -- once you discover that you can make the same or more money elsewhere -- you will have no choice but to run out the door screaming.

I understand why you are all attacking her like this, sadly anonymously. Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.

But can I be one person to praise her? She chose joy, happiness, carefree living and life over biglaw and is making it work.

She wasn't fired, she chose to leave, a job that many in this thread did not have the grades to attain in the first place. I doubt she will look back on that decision with regret. You all, on the other hand, may at some point realize that the life of tediousness, bitterness, poor health, and other issues you've chosen for yourself via your job -- when you could have done so many other things -- was a bad choice.

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------- Forwarded Message -------
From: biglawredditor <biglawredditor@proton.me>
Date: On Thursday, March 30th, 2023 at 4:14 AM
Subject: Attacks on Christianity on Harrison Barnes/BCG Atrorney Search's top-law-schools forum and other reasons why it may be dying
To: jobs@bcgsearch.com <jobs@bcgsearch.com>, michelle@correll-lawfirm.com <michelle@correll-lawfirm.com>, mpk@matthewpkellylaw.com <mpk@matthewpkellylaw.com>, sclary@harrisonbarnes.com <sclary@harrisonbarnes.com>, brians@bcgsearch.com <brians@bcgsearch.com>, sgarvey@bcgattorneysearch.com <sgarvey@bcgattorneysearch.com>, h.barnes@bcgattorneysearch.com <h.barnes@bcgattorneysearch.com>, carolina@bcg-search.com <carolina@bcg-search.com>

Pardon this email, as I didn't know who to contact at Mr. Barnes's organization so I'm emailing some contacts I found via a quick search of google.

As someone whose boredom led me to start surfing lawyer forums online again after a years-long hiatus, I feel I need to inform you that your site of TLS is falling behind badly. Fishbowl now has more traffic, and so does reddit biglaw (see this pic showing 50,000 views in only one day for a thread I posted there). Things have changed in the past few years. Fishbowl didn't exist when I used to surf these forums, and biglaw reddit was utterly dead back then, like a few visitors a week. Who knows who else you lost traffic to.

https://imgur.com/a/Rt4C5uZ

One particular issue with your forum is that you have a half-dozen or so seemingly unhappy and bitter regulars, including a few mods, who have made the forum their place to abuse others. For example, see what the mod Cavalier1138 repeatedly attacks a Christian woman's benign and utterly harmless faith-based beliefs and practices, for no reason (the woman he is attacking has never even heard of him and so couldn't have done anything to him. This is pure unprovoked malice, by a coward.)
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=314123

This seems especially out of place for a site owned by Harrison Barnes, who seems to have the carefree happy go lucky attitude you find among the faithful.

As you know, getting engagement online is a trillion dollar business and intensely competitive. TLS needs to pick up its game or it risks being the next MySpace. I'd recommend an initiative where you assess the contributions of the forums engagement coordinators and mods. Sometimes employees operating without performance targets and supervision become complacent and view their paycheck as an annuity.

Good luck!

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by cavalier1138 » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am

whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by nixy » Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:50 am

cavalier1138 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am
whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.
Influencers are like lawyers. Some are smart, some are dumb. You may think it’s a stupid *profession*, but then, lots of people think that about law.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by thisismytlsuername » Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:41 am

You sent two different emails to a bunch of different complete strangers about a thread on a website regarding a person you supposedly have no connection to? If that's true, dear lord in heaven jesus h. christ
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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by nixy » Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:44 am

HB is “happy go lucky”???

(Also hope you’re enjoying your paycheck, cav)

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by cavalier1138 » Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:56 am

nixy wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:44 am
HB is “happy go lucky”???

(Also hope you’re enjoying your paycheck, cav)
If only.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by throwawayt14 » Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:03 am

cavalier1138 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am
whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.
[Insert old man shouts at cloud picture here]

I have exhibited little sympathy towards the influencer's work situation, as she could have easily reviewed Cravath's conflicts policy, and her termination was justified. That being said, this criticism is so over the top I'm now more sympathetic to her plight.

Her use of a Bible verse was a minor detail, merely serving as a throwaway line at the beginning of her video, in which she discussed personal and professional issues with her followers. There is no "numerology" or "dogma" associated with it, and becoming angry over someone finding solace in a biblical verse, regardless of whether it aligns with their birthday or was chosen randomly, says more about your personal discomfort with mild expressions of religiosity than anything about the influencer.

Lastly, the influencer does not solely rely on being an influencer for income, as she also attended law school. Furthermore, if her beauty tutorials assist her followers, it benefits both her and them. If you abhor it that much, just don't watch.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

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nixy wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:50 am
cavalier1138 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am
whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.
Influencers are like lawyers. Some are smart, some are dumb. You may think it’s a stupid *profession*, but then, lots of people think that about law.
To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

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Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:43 am

To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:43 am
nixy wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:50 am
cavalier1138 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am
whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.
Influencers are like lawyers. Some are smart, some are dumb. You may think it’s a stupid *profession*, but then, lots of people think that about law.
To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect
People don't respect us. Hell they may (incorrectly) think we're all smart, powerful, and rich but c'mon, they don't respect us. And, to the extent they do respect lawyers, they respect the media-glamorized version Atticus-Finch types, not the lawyers at biglaw firms. Deep down, I think we all know that.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by Moneytrees » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:37 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:43 am
nixy wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:50 am
cavalier1138 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am
whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.
Influencers are like lawyers. Some are smart, some are dumb. You may think it’s a stupid *profession*, but then, lots of people think that about law.
To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect
People don't respect us. Hell they may (incorrectly) think we're all smart, powerful, and rich but c'mon, they don't respect us. And, to the extent they do respect lawyers, they respect the media-glamorized version Atticus-Finch types, not the lawyers at biglaw firms. Deep down, I think we all know that.
According to you lay people believe lawyers are smart, powerful, and rich, and yet they don't respect lawyers? Lol ok.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by MergerQueen » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:28 pm

Moneytrees wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:37 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:43 am
nixy wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:50 am
cavalier1138 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am
whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.
Influencers are like lawyers. Some are smart, some are dumb. You may think it’s a stupid *profession*, but then, lots of people think that about law.
To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect
People don't respect us. Hell they may (incorrectly) think we're all smart, powerful, and rich but c'mon, they don't respect us. And, to the extent they do respect lawyers, they respect the media-glamorized version Atticus-Finch types, not the lawyers at biglaw firms. Deep down, I think we all know that.
According to you lay people believe lawyers are smart, powerful, and rich, and yet they don't respect lawyers? Lol ok.
I think these two beliefs can be held simultaneously. I am sure there are many who believe, for instance, that Dick Cheney was both smart and powerful--but did not respect him.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:57 pm

Moneytrees wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:37 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:43 am
nixy wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:50 am
cavalier1138 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am
whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.
Influencers are like lawyers. Some are smart, some are dumb. You may think it’s a stupid *profession*, but then, lots of people think that about law.
To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect
People don't respect us. Hell they may (incorrectly) think we're all smart, powerful, and rich but c'mon, they don't respect us. And, to the extent they do respect lawyers, they respect the media-glamorized version Atticus-Finch types, not the lawyers at biglaw firms. Deep down, I think we all know that.
According to you lay people believe lawyers are smart, powerful, and rich, and yet they don't respect lawyers? Lol ok.
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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:57 pm
Moneytrees wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:37 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:43 am
nixy wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:50 am
cavalier1138 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:51 am
whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:30 am
Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.
Just because people can't resist playing the oppressed religious majority, I want to be crystal clear. There is no scripture, dogma, or common practice in any form of Christianity that assigns importance to specific chapters and verses based on whether they share a number in common with your birthday. Suggesting that this is in any way an attack in Christianity instead of an attack on pandering to the most vapid elements of our society with empty, pseudo-religious nonsense betrays a deep unfamiliarity with religion, the Bible, and fundamental principles of logic.

And I'll say it even louder for the folks in back: Anyone who makes a living solely by being a social media "influencer" is an idiot. They may very well make plenty of money. That doesn't make them smart. It just means they're dumb with lots and lots of cash.
Influencers are like lawyers. Some are smart, some are dumb. You may think it’s a stupid *profession*, but then, lots of people think that about law.
To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect
People don't respect us. Hell they may (incorrectly) think we're all smart, powerful, and rich but c'mon, they don't respect us. And, to the extent they do respect lawyers, they respect the media-glamorized version Atticus-Finch types, not the lawyers at biglaw firms. Deep down, I think we all know that.
According to you lay people believe lawyers are smart, powerful, and rich, and yet they don't respect lawyers? Lol ok.
Yes.
The point of my comment was that nobody seriously thinks tiktok influencing is as respectable of a career

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by ksm6969 » Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:24 pm

No particular opinion on this woman, but conflict checks/policies are often ridiculous, especially as applied to juniors that do low level work.

And overwhelmingly most lawyers I know could not manage to make a living on Tik tok, because they don’t have the emotional intelligence/charisma to attract any followers. I don’t really know why she would be “stupider” than any big law lawyer that quits to do a start up, or buy apartments for real estate, or literally do any other self employment type of work.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:43 am

To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect
This is a pretty crazy stance for a big law lawyer— like we defend tobacco companies who literally advertised cancer sticks to kids for years, and oil companies that cause huge amounts of damage.

You think the general public doesnt respect influencers because they post on tik tok, because the app is bad for kids’ attention span, but they absolutely hold lawyers who defend tobacco companies and the absolute worst environmental offenders in the highest regard? It just doesn’t make sense . (And by the way, who do you think is representing Tik tok in its attempts not to be regulated, lol).

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:38 pm

whatchuwant wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:34 am
thisismytlsuername wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:31 am

lol hi enigivensunday. Surprised you didn't quote any bible verses at us!
I'm not her, but I emailed her and everyone's email address I could find at BCG search as you can see below. Any way, good luck to you all. I hope you find some happiness one day.

------- Original Message -------
From: biglawredditor <biglawredditor@proton.me>
Date: On Thursday, March 30th, 2023 at 4:21 AM
Subject: Fw: Attacks on Christianity on Harrison Barnes/BCG Atrorney Search's top-law-schools forum and other reasons why it may be dying
To: enipopoola@enigivensunday.com <enipopoola@enigivensunday.com>

FYI, I read about you on the top-law-schools forum below (warning, it's a bunch of hateful people attacking you) viewtopic.php?f=23&t=314123 and was so offended I replied with this post, which I'm waiting for mods to approve, and then emailed the owners of the forum in the email below. Good luck to you and be sure that people who follow Christianity will attain a joy unavailable to people filled with hate.

***

So much bitterness (and jealousy?) in this thread. As someone who worked in biglaw, I completely understand the mental gymnastics one needs to go through to cope with the fact that you could be doing something else, that you have other options than painstakingly reading figurative rooms full of documents to assemble evidence, other options than constantly presenting half-truths in briefs (lying is bad for the soul), other options than meticulously reading boring contracts for typos or, if the other side is sneaky, that one provision that could end your career if not caught . . . I get that biglaw is a really shitty job that requires layers of psychological defense mechanisms because -- once you discover that you can make the same or more money elsewhere -- you will have no choice but to run out the door screaming.

I understand why you are all attacking her like this, sadly anonymously. Some of you are also literally attacking Christianity, and the beliefs (all unproven and based on faith) that its followers adhere to.

But can I be one person to praise her? She chose joy, happiness, carefree living and life over biglaw and is making it work.

She wasn't fired, she chose to leave, a job that many in this thread did not have the grades to attain in the first place. I doubt she will look back on that decision with regret. You all, on the other hand, may at some point realize that the life of tediousness, bitterness, poor health, and other issues you've chosen for yourself via your job -- when you could have done so many other things -- was a bad choice.

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------- Forwarded Message -------
From: biglawredditor <biglawredditor@proton.me>
Date: On Thursday, March 30th, 2023 at 4:14 AM
Subject: Attacks on Christianity on Harrison Barnes/BCG Atrorney Search's top-law-schools forum and other reasons why it may be dying
To: jobs@bcgsearch.com <jobs@bcgsearch.com>, michelle@correll-lawfirm.com <michelle@correll-lawfirm.com>, mpk@matthewpkellylaw.com <mpk@matthewpkellylaw.com>, sclary@harrisonbarnes.com <sclary@harrisonbarnes.com>, brians@bcgsearch.com <brians@bcgsearch.com>, sgarvey@bcgattorneysearch.com <sgarvey@bcgattorneysearch.com>, h.barnes@bcgattorneysearch.com <h.barnes@bcgattorneysearch.com>, carolina@bcg-search.com <carolina@bcg-search.com>

Pardon this email, as I didn't know who to contact at Mr. Barnes's organization so I'm emailing some contacts I found via a quick search of google.

As someone whose boredom led me to start surfing lawyer forums online again after a years-long hiatus, I feel I need to inform you that your site of TLS is falling behind badly. Fishbowl now has more traffic, and so does reddit biglaw (see this pic showing 50,000 views in only one day for a thread I posted there). Things have changed in the past few years. Fishbowl didn't exist when I used to surf these forums, and biglaw reddit was utterly dead back then, like a few visitors a week. Who knows who else you lost traffic to.

https://imgur.com/a/Rt4C5uZ

One particular issue with your forum is that you have a half-dozen or so seemingly unhappy and bitter regulars, including a few mods, who have made the forum their place to abuse others. For example, see what the mod Cavalier1138 repeatedly attacks a Christian woman's benign and utterly harmless faith-based beliefs and practices, for no reason (the woman he is attacking has never even heard of him and so couldn't have done anything to him. This is pure unprovoked malice, by a coward.)
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=314123

This seems especially out of place for a site owned by Harrison Barnes, who seems to have the carefree happy go lucky attitude you find among the faithful.

As you know, getting engagement online is a trillion dollar business and intensely competitive. TLS needs to pick up its game or it risks being the next MySpace. I'd recommend an initiative where you assess the contributions of the forums engagement coordinators and mods. Sometimes employees operating without performance targets and supervision become complacent and view their paycheck as an annuity.

Good luck!

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I do NOT condone insulting the religious beliefs of another human being.

Separate and aside from those comments, however, is this thread not fair game?

This is a big law forum. The relevant user exploited her position in big law to become a public figure.

So it makes sense that she would be a subject of discussion.

Moreover, she elected to be a public figure. When one is a public figure, she understands that she is fair game for both praise and criticism. It's not all sunshine and rainbows. In law, we call this assumption of the risk.

What's the issue here? You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

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Re: CLS/Cravath Tiktoker

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:34 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:43 am

To be fair, the law is a relatively respected profession. Influencers, especially influencers on a Chinese spyware app that short circuits the attention spans of millions of young children-adults, deserve less respect
This is a pretty crazy stance for a big law lawyer— like we defend tobacco companies who literally advertised cancer sticks to kids for years, and oil companies that cause huge amounts of damage.

You think the general public doesnt respect influencers because they post on tik tok, because the app is bad for kids’ attention span, but they absolutely hold lawyers who defend tobacco companies and the absolute worst environmental offenders in the highest regard? It just doesn’t make sense . (And by the way, who do you think is representing Tik tok in its attempts not to be regulated, lol).
Nobody here said lawyers are the most highly regarded professionals. Notice "relatively." RELATIVE to tiktok influencers. And not all law firms defend tobacco or oil companies. Please learn to read critically.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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