A warning about indoctrination Forum

[BaiAilian2013]

I'm not going to define "culture" for you, but "unwritten, unverifiable, and often inarticulable" norms would be a good working start. . . . If someone felt strained and stiff in every personal interaction they had with a certain firm's attorneys, their inability to quantify exactly why won't magically make those interactions any easier in the future should they choose to take your advice and ignore the interpersonal aspects of office work.

OP: I guess it's good that people who believe in the existence of "unwritten, unverifiable, and often inarticulable" norms, which they learn based on a few short-lived interactions with possible hustlers (who they may never see again, as earlier posts explained), are all attracted to certain firms. Good luck to all. Again let's end this here.

I don't get why you're fighting so hard against everyone else in this thread. I don't think anyone who is saying that there are "unwritten, unverifiable, and often inarticulable norms" is *also* saying that 2Ls can actually figure out what they are through the interview process. I think everyone here would suggest that you *can't* learn that through interviewing. But there's a difference between saying "you can't learn a firm's culture through the interview process so don't weight it heavily compared to what you can objectively measure," and "firms don't have different cultures/firm cultures don't influence your success/comfort in a job." And no one is saying that you should buy firms' own self-promotion of their culture, either.

OP: Yes, firms have "unwritten, unverifiable, and often inarticulable" norms or "culture" that you learn about *somehow* and you should make important decisions based on it. Got it. Thank you. Please end this here.

Good luck to all.

You can stop replying. You don't get to tell other people to stop replying. Even with formatting.

[BlackAndOrange84]

"I have a dumb hot take, but want to have the last word—stop replying."

[Neff]

The most dumbass thread of all time in a 90% dumbass forum.