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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by 84651846190 » Thu May 26, 2016 10:15 pm

Talking about politics at work is a sign of low IQ.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by my prole called life » Thu May 26, 2016 10:42 pm

LOL at OP. Can't you take a hint? The people in power have said you shouldn't support him. Besides - he's a racist bully who hates women and bears striking similarities to Hitler.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by seagan823 » Thu May 26, 2016 11:38 pm

lawman84 wrote:
PMan99 wrote:I don't even think it's okay to come out as a Republican in Biglaw, let alone a Trump Republican. I avoid all political conversations except with a few other closeted Republicans. Though it's hard when people always feel the need to chime in about how awful conservatives are while making happy hour chit chat.
I chuckled at the irony of "closeted Republicans."

You know what they say...don't ask, don't tell.
Is Biglaw really dominated by liberals or is this a firm specific thing?

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by rpupkin » Thu May 26, 2016 11:43 pm

seagan823 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
PMan99 wrote:I don't even think it's okay to come out as a Republican in Biglaw, let alone a Trump Republican. I avoid all political conversations except with a few other closeted Republicans. Though it's hard when people always feel the need to chime in about how awful conservatives are while making happy hour chit chat.
I chuckled at the irony of "closeted Republicans."

You know what they say...don't ask, don't tell.
Is Biglaw really dominated by liberals or is this a firm specific thing?
On the coasts, at least, big law offices are dominated by liberals. But every office has got at least two or three Republicans. They're out there.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by Anonymous User » Thu May 26, 2016 11:48 pm

You should be concerned about even coming out as a Republican in the workplace. The strategy of the new "progressive left" is to label anyone with different views as racist, misogynist, homophobic, etc. Many of my liberal co-workers automatically assume someone is one (or all) or those things if they are a self-proclaimed conservative or Republican.

Avoid political talk in the office is the best advice.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by dixiecupdrinking » Thu May 26, 2016 11:52 pm

I suspect voicing support for any GOP candidate would be a borderline bad idea in any big law office located in an area that's heavily dem. And hey, look! Outside of Texas, most big law jobs are in heavily democratic places.

It's not even about your political leanings so much as it's about lacking the discretion to shut up when you should know better.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

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Anonymous User wrote:You could make it to retirement and never have a conversation about politics at the office. Just don't show an interest in it.
Yes, exactly.
PMan99 wrote:I don't even think it's okay to come out as a Republican in Biglaw, let alone a Trump Republican. I avoid all political conversations except with a few other closeted Republicans. Though it's hard when people always feel the need to chime in about how awful conservatives are while making happy hour chit chat.
Huh, I guess people looking for a reason to feel persecuted will always come up with something. Like when I wear my LCD flashing tie to work I feel like everyone is staring at me and talking about me during happy hour.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by lavarman84 » Fri May 27, 2016 12:26 am

Anonymous User wrote:You should be concerned about even coming out as a Republican in the workplace. The strategy of the new "progressive left" is to label anyone with different views as racist, misogynist, homophobic, etc. Many of my liberal co-workers automatically assume someone is one (or all) or those things if they are a self-proclaimed conservative or Republican.

Avoid political talk in the office is the best advice.
It's not hard to understand why when you look at the "conservative agenda" and the politicians who supposedly stand for "conservative values."

Frankly, I know plenty of Republicans who aren't labeled those things. But yea, if you support or espouse ideals that come off as racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc., there's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.

It's pretty annoying how polarized this country has become.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by jbagelboy » Fri May 27, 2016 12:38 am

The fact that only anonymous posters will earnestly state some level of support for donald trump should be your answer.

Yes, you can say you're a trump supporter, and yes, people will ridicule you and think you are less intelligent. That's your trade off. It's an objectively stupid position; there's no educated theory of Trump support out there that doesn't rely on racism and misogyny (or Hillary-hate misogyny), which as political theories haven't garnered true intellectual support since the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by PMan99 » Fri May 27, 2016 12:46 am

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Anonymous User wrote:You could make it to retirement and never have a conversation about politics at the office. Just don't show an interest in it.
Yes, exactly.
PMan99 wrote:I don't even think it's okay to come out as a Republican in Biglaw, let alone a Trump Republican. I avoid all political conversations except with a few other closeted Republicans. Though it's hard when people always feel the need to chime in about how awful conservatives are while making happy hour chit chat.
Huh, I guess people looking for a reason to feel persecuted will always come up with something. Like when I wear my LCD flashing tie to work I feel like everyone is staring at me and talking about me during happy hour.
Even ITT every other post blindly labels most Republicans as bigots. But yea that "persecution" is made up.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by Serett » Fri May 27, 2016 1:00 am

PMan99 wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:You could make it to retirement and never have a conversation about politics at the office. Just don't show an interest in it.
Yes, exactly.
PMan99 wrote:I don't even think it's okay to come out as a Republican in Biglaw, let alone a Trump Republican. I avoid all political conversations except with a few other closeted Republicans. Though it's hard when people always feel the need to chime in about how awful conservatives are while making happy hour chit chat.
Huh, I guess people looking for a reason to feel persecuted will always come up with something. Like when I wear my LCD flashing tie to work I feel like everyone is staring at me and talking about me during happy hour.
Even ITT every other post blindly labels most Republicans as bigots. But yea that "persecution" is made up.
Almost like Republicans are calling their persecution of minorities made-up.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by kcdc1 » Fri May 27, 2016 6:32 am

Regarding the "persecution" of Trump supporters, can we stipulate that people who consider Trump a bigoted demagogue do not do so because he espouses conservative principles (e.g., lower taxes, balanced budget, deregulation, strong national defense, hawkish foreign policy)?

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by Anonymous User » Fri May 27, 2016 8:38 am

You should not do this. Even in offices that are close to 50/50 Republican/Dem (i.e., most NYC offices), supporting Trump openly would be looked down on.

- a republican

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by Gtr411 » Fri May 27, 2016 8:46 am

Type bigot into Google and here is what you get: Bigot- a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Some of you guys going after Trump supporters need to look in the mirror.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t » Fri May 27, 2016 9:20 am

Gtr411 wrote:Type bigot into Google and here is what you get: Bigot- a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Some of you guys going after Trump supporters need to look in the mirror.
Under that definition abolitionists were bigots against slaveowners. When Trump wants to deport 13M+ (already second-class) people, ban one religion from entering the US, and disrespect women in power, it goes to more than mere difference of opinion. The difference is in fundamental values.

Also, I am (was?) a Republican.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by UVAIce » Fri May 27, 2016 9:30 am

People are just dicks when it comes to politics, which is exactly why you shouldn't talk about politics in the office unless it's abundantly clear that you and your team are all on the same page of music. Even then I would caution you to hesitate before spamming your office with political articles or talking about candidate X; you never know who supports candidate X, so give it a break.

And it's amazing how quickly people will judge someone for being on the "wrong" side of things politically. Don't talk about politics. Don't do it. No Politics.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by Anonymous User » Fri May 27, 2016 9:54 am

I know for a fact there are a lot of closet trump supporters (Including myself an extremely weak supporter). People at my office regularly make fun of trump. I have one or two close friends in other departments and when we have a candid conversation they said that they will vote for trump and somewhat support him. When we are in public, or in a group setting they laugh and make trump jokes just like 95% of the people.

The problem is that it is extremely difficult to openly support someone when u make blanket statements labeling Mexicans as rapeists and to "temporarly" ban all Muslims.

In terms of illegals, no one else has any plan at all? Hillary and Bernie just want to give them a path to citizenship. That will encourage more people to come illegally. I agree that it is terrible separating family members of illegal immigrants but what else can we do? They broke the law. My family had to immigrate here legally. They had to wait in line to get citizenship.

I would not be surprised if trump wins. A lot of people given these two terrible choices might hold their nose and vote for trump.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by Desert Fox » Fri May 27, 2016 10:02 am

My boss makes fun of liberals. Other bosses conservatives. Most don't actually care. You could be a neo nazi if you did good work.

Talking about politics with people is so TTT. Getting butthurt over politics is a dumb person thing.

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Post by Monochromatic Oeuvre » Fri May 27, 2016 10:03 am

jbagelboy wrote:The fact that only anonymous posters will earnestly state some level of support for donald trump should be your answer.

Yes, you can say you're a trump supporter, and yes, people will ridicule you and think you are less intelligent. That's your trade off. It's an objectively stupid position; there's no educated theory of Trump support out there that doesn't rely on racism and misogyny (or Hillary-hate misogyny), which as political theories haven't garnered true intellectual support since the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau.
This is as ignorant as some of the shit Trump says.

I don't back Trump, but you have to recognize that the concerns of many of his supporters are valid on trade, or immigration, or national security, or really anything that isn't the status quo. There's a lot of people who feel left behind and sold out by the "elites" on those issues, and if you look at the objective evidence over the past 40 years or so, they have pretty good reasons to feel like the "consensus" view on those positions was a crappy deal for them and that Trump's position might be better. If the Democrats chalk up everything to ignorance and racism and ignore those real issues, they're gonna get beat in November.

That said, you don't really need to think about whether it's a good idea to announce your Trump support in a job full of left-leaning cosmopolitan rich urbanites if you follow the simple "avoid discussing politics, religion or sex in the workplace to the fullest extent possible" rule.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by grand inquisitor » Fri May 27, 2016 10:13 am

Desert Fox wrote:Getting butthurt over politics is a dumb person thing.
this should be shouted from the rooftops, but shitlibs have such missionary zeal for their political positions because they believe their "progressivism" makes up for their shitty, immoral lives

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by emkay625 » Fri May 27, 2016 10:18 am

grand inquisitor wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Getting butthurt over politics is a dumb person thing.
this should be shouted from the rooftops, but shitlibs have such missionary zeal for their political positions because they believe their "progressivism" makes up for their shitty, immoral lives
lol wut?

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Post by Desert Fox » Fri May 27, 2016 10:21 am

emkay625 wrote:
grand inquisitor wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Getting butthurt over politics is a dumb person thing.
this should be shouted from the rooftops, but shitlibs have such missionary zeal for their political positions because they believe their "progressivism" makes up for their shitty, immoral lives
lol wut?
99.8% of progressives (i dont just mean democrats) are selfish and shitty people. Even democrats are finding this out re: bernie bros.

The religious right has this too. There is a distinct group of christians who are fucking huge peices of shit, but think they are saints cause they go to church every sunday and publically show their faith.

It's a form of "the lady doth protest too much." They are overcompensating for people pieces of shit.

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Re: Is it ok to come out as a Trump Republican in Biglaw?

Post by grand inquisitor » Fri May 27, 2016 10:23 am

Desert Fox wrote:99.8% of progressives (i dont just mean democrats) are selfish and shitty people. Even democrats are finding this out re: bernie bros.

The religious right has this too. There is a distinct group of christians who are fucking huge peices of shit, but think they are saints cause they go to church every sunday and publically show their faith.

It's a form of "the lady doth protest too much." They are overcompensating for people pieces of shit.
nailed it. the people with good senses of humor about politics who can see where both sides are coming from tend to be the people who are genuinely kind and generous in their relationships with other people. the butthurt crowds on both sides are the people whose politics fill the empty place where love should be.

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