Anonymous User wrote:If you get no-offered as a 1L, its likely that you don't belong in Biglaw and would get no offered as a 2L anyways. Or burn out as a second year associate.

Anonymous User wrote:If you get no-offered as a 1L, its likely that you don't belong in Biglaw and would get no offered as a 2L anyways. Or burn out as a second year associate.
This is just taking the opposite extreme. I mean on one hand we sometimes have people who say not getting an offer is never that person's fault and on the other we have the whole blame the victim crowd (e.g., you) who say that it's entirely the no offered person's fault. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Are people who get no offered at one firm or during one summer more likely to get no offered at another firm or during another summer compared to others? Sure, I don't think that's an unreasonable position. Would they definitely get no offered? Do they not "deserve" to be in biglaw? Would they burn out as a 2nd year? lolno, those are fucking absurd things to believe.Anonymous User wrote:Look, this is just a ridiculous conversation. If you get no-offered as a 1L, its likely that you don't belong in Biglaw and would get no offered as a 2L anyways. Or burn out as a second year associate.
No, firms actually do not understand.Anonymous User wrote:My 1L biglaw summer was the easiest job I've ever had. If you actually get no-offered due to economic reasons and not your own incompetence, then you should be able to explain that at OCI. Firms understand.
Thanks for your random anecdote that sometimes firms don't ask about offers?Anonymous User wrote:For what its worth, I summered at a V50, got an offer, was asked about it a couple of screeners, and will be spending my 2L summer at a V5. The V5 never asked whether I was offered.
Do 1L SAs at Wachtell belong in biglaw? Because Wachtell categorically refuses to hire them back for 2L summers. I'm sure that it has nothing to do with them being incapable for doing biglaw work. Don't flatter yourself, chief.Anonymous User wrote:Look, this is just a ridiculous conversation. If you get no-offered as a 1L, its likely that you don't belong in Biglaw and would get no offered as a 2L anyways. Or burn out as a second year associate.
Nobody thinks of firms who don't give their 1Ls offers to come back 2L summer (e.g., Wachtell, Munger, etc) as no offering those summers.mr.hands wrote:Do 1L SAs at Wachtell belong in biglaw? Because Wachtell categorically refuses to hire them back for 2L summers.
They may not even say whether it was voluntary or not.Anonymous User wrote:
So basically it'll generally be:
Person X worked here from June-August.
Split was involuntary.
Though, can the old employer tell the new employer why the split was involuntary? Like, financial issues, performance issues, etc.
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Anonymous User wrote:if i could do it all over again, i would not have worked at a firm my 1l.
Dude, this is so untrue, besides being entirely unhelpful.Anonymous User wrote:Look, this is just a ridiculous conversation. If you get no-offered as a 1L, its likely that you don't belong in Biglaw and would get no offered as a 2L anyways. Or burn out as a second year associate. My 1L biglaw summer was the easiest job I've ever had. If you actually get no-offered due to economic reasons and not your own incompetence, then you should be able to explain that at OCI. Firms understand.
For what its worth, I summered at a V50, got an offer, was asked about it a couple of screeners, and will be spending my 2L summer at a V5. The V5 never asked whether I was offered.
this.thesealocust wrote:Your career services person is a moron. This advice is so bad it causes me physical pain.
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