Pre-OCI 2021 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Dinged at Skadden. Interviewed Tuesday

Skadden NYC offer. I am shook.

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[Anonymous User]

I know this question can't possibly have a great answer, but does anyone have an opinion (hopefully informed) as to how good the offer rate is at this stage for NY firms? Maybe on a scale of "absolute lock" to "would be surprised to get an offer". I've heard its really up to you to not blow the interview

Very much not a lock. Chances may be slightly better than regular OCI but not sure that holds water. Clearly if you get a CB this early they’re serious about you but it’s just as competitive as regular OCI in my experience

It depends on your school, as well. If you're at a school the firm normally does OCI with, then I think you have pretty good chances because they have sought you out knowing that they would probably still see you at OCI if you didn't. But if you're at a school they don't normally do OCI with, then it can still be an uphill battle. I did pre-OCI interviews with a couple of firms that hadn't hired from my school in years and very much got the sense that they would only reach out and give me an offer if they weren't able to fill the slots they needed from OCIs.

how do you think this would play if I transferred from a school they don't OCI at to a school they recruit very very heavily from in the middle of the interviewing process

Someone correct me if I'm mistaken - but I believe you're at a slight disadvantage, however the former sentence still applies more to you than the later

[Anonymous User]

Skadden NYC offer. Tears were shed. Interviewed Tuesday. Lower T14, probably top 5% (school doesn't rank).

[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

Neither of those things are universally the case, but TLS wouldn't be TLS without having someone come and spread fear, huh?

Some firms in DC are giving out offers. Most aren't (yet).

Some firms turn around in 2-3 days. Some firms consistently take a week. C'est la vie.

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

Yeah this is pretty much all wrong. Maybe this is true come actual OCI but pre-OCI timelines are a lot different so the comparison to the Winter OCI thread doesn't really hold. Literally today someone reported an offer from DPW over two weeks after CB, and other people have reported rejections from DPW. There's no way that single person could have been waitlisted and gotten an offer after "enough of their top candidates decline[d] offers" given how few interviews they've conducted at this point.

I think a single person (maybe 2?) reported an STB offer even though STB has been interviewing for weeks. Some firms have explicitly instructed interviewees to not be surprised if it takes weeks to hear anything.

[Anonymous User]

S&C and STB offers, Skadden CB after thinking I absolutely fucked up the screener. Absolutely incredible week

Congrats on the offers. When was STB callback and mind sharing approximate stats?

[Anonymous User]

S&C and STB offers, Skadden CB after thinking I absolutely fucked up the screener. Absolutely incredible week

Wow, congrats! Mind sharing approx stats? Also, when did you interview at STB?

[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

Do you think this also applies to firms that say that their decision making process will take a few weeks? I feel like this is pretty firm dependent…

[Anonymous User]

Safe to assume we won't be seeing much movement tomorrow because of the holiday?

[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

are you a 3L? associate? I dunno about this one chief.

[Anonymous User]

Does Covington DC do pre-OCI? I am an SA there now and somehow do not know.

I just applied yesterday because they sent an email with instructions on how to send your docs pre-oci... hoping to see some movement soon

Can anyone expand a bit on this email? Searching everywhere to find out how to apply and can't find a thing.

[Anonymous User]

HYS here. White and Case DC offer, Morgan Lewis DC offer. Have heard of movement in SF and NY offices for T5 firms.

[hoyasaxa2018]

Since there's so much DC interest: screener invites at Cleary and Skadden in last 48 hours. Pretty far above top 10% at GULC.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have a timeline for STB callback —> offer? And did anyone else get a Cleary CB? For both: relative stats? Thanks!

[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

Yeah this is pretty much all wrong. Maybe this is true come actual OCI but pre-OCI timelines are a lot different so the comparison to the Winter OCI thread doesn't really hold. Literally today someone reported an offer from DPW over two weeks after CB, and other people have reported rejections from DPW. There's no way that single person could have been waitlisted and gotten an offer after "enough of their top candidates decline[d] offers" given how few interviews they've conducted at this point.

I think a single person (maybe 2?) reported an STB offer even though STB has been interviewing for weeks. Some firms have explicitly instructed interviewees to not be surprised if it takes weeks to hear anything.

My dude I know of 5 STB offers at my school alone. Please don't make the mistake of extrapolating from the posts here.

[Anonymous User]

Do we know if anyone whose gotten a ding from a STB callback yet? I’m prior years did they email to notify a denial or do they just ghost?

[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

Yeah this is pretty much all wrong. Maybe this is true come actual OCI but pre-OCI timelines are a lot different so the comparison to the Winter OCI thread doesn't really hold. Literally today someone reported an offer from DPW over two weeks after CB, and other people have reported rejections from DPW. There's no way that single person could have been waitlisted and gotten an offer after "enough of their top candidates decline[d] offers" given how few interviews they've conducted at this point.

I think a single person (maybe 2?) reported an STB offer even though STB has been interviewing for weeks. Some firms have explicitly instructed interviewees to not be surprised if it takes weeks to hear anything.

My dude I know of 5 STB offers at my school alone. Please don't make the mistake of extrapolating from the posts here.

I know a bunch too, but they all took more than two days. Seems to take a week or so.

[Anonymous User]

Does Covington DC do pre-OCI? I am an SA there now and somehow do not know.

I just applied yesterday because they sent an email with instructions on how to send your docs pre-oci... hoping to see some movement soon

Can anyone expand a bit on this email? Searching everywhere to find out how to apply and can't find a thing.

They sent the email to everyone who went to their Zoom meet-and-greet a couple of weeks ago.

[Anonymous User]

Since there's so much DC interest: screener invites at Cleary and Skadden in last 48 hours. Pretty far above top 10% at GULC.

This is for that Cleary ED thing? Why would you go for that if you're in the top 5% at GULC?

[Anonymous User]

Since there's so much DC interest: screener invites at Cleary and Skadden in last 48 hours. Pretty far above top 10% at GULC.

whattup fellow hoya I was thinking about applying to Cleary but the short acceptance window kinda sucks

[Anonymous User]

This thread is starting to resemble this past Winter OCI thread...

Sorry to break the bad news but most of these firms referenced in this thread have been giving out offers for the past 2 weeks now. Including in DC.

If you don't hear back within 2-3 business days after CB, you're either a) "waitlisted" and will be considered only if enough of their top candidates decline offers; or b) (the more likely scenario) you have already been rejected and recruiting is simply ghosting you. Or you will get a mass email with the other rejected candidates when they decide to send it all out at once.

Yeah this is pretty much all wrong. Maybe this is true come actual OCI but pre-OCI timelines are a lot different so the comparison to the Winter OCI thread doesn't really hold. Literally today someone reported an offer from DPW over two weeks after CB, and other people have reported rejections from DPW. There's no way that single person could have been waitlisted and gotten an offer after "enough of their top candidates decline[d] offers" given how few interviews they've conducted at this point.

I think a single person (maybe 2?) reported an STB offer even though STB has been interviewing for weeks. Some firms have explicitly instructed interviewees to not be surprised if it takes weeks to hear anything.

My dude I know of 5 STB offers at my school alone. Please don't make the mistake of extrapolating from the posts here.

Yeah I haven't heard from STB for well over a week after my interview, I'd love an offer but I'm not deluding myself that it's coming, at best some waitlist type thing.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone have any updates on Chicago movement as of late?