DOJ Honors Program 2014-15 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Thank you! I was Anonymous 4 on the spreadsheet. As far as stats, seeing other peoples just freaked me out about the process so I am not going to post mine. I will say that for future people who are discouraged based on statistics, don't let it stop you.

If this person is still around, would you mind at least disclosing if you're a veteran? Just trying to figure out possible explanations for staggered offers with ATR, if that's what's going on.

I'm not a veteran. I got a call from someone on my panel so it could just depend on who is making phone calls.

Can you post your stats once the process is over?

[Anonymous User]

Thank you! I was Anonymous 4 on the spreadsheet. As far as stats, seeing other peoples just freaked me out about the process so I am not going to post mine. I will say that for future people who are discouraged based on statistics, don't let it stop you.

If this person is still around, would you mind at least disclosing if you're a veteran? Just trying to figure out possible explanations for staggered offers with ATR, if that's what's going on.

I'm not a veteran. I got a call from someone on my panel so it could just depend on who is making phone calls.

Thanks. Was your panel Crim people or a mix of attorneys from crim and civil sections?

Edit: Sorry for all the questions. Waiting is just difficult. I asked who was on your panel, because the thought occurred to me that the civil and crim sections might handle things somewhat differently and focus on different candidates considering how the work differs so much. If you had a panel of all crim, people it'd confirm that somewhat.

[Anonymous User]

Going to post this and then step away from the spreadsheets and avue for a while. For the ATR(DC) people, I got to wondering about how unlikely it would be that we have 3 or 4 non-offer finalists to two offers if the full 11 offers had been given out. So I had some fun with excel and came up with some probabilities.

I have no way of knowing how many alternates might have been selected, so the probabilities vary based on that number. I started with a minimum of 4 alternates. There can't be less than 3 or 4 based on the finalists we know are still waiting on offers.

For four confirmed non-offered Finalists and two confirmed offers

(Actual # of Alts - Probability all offers have gone out)

4 - 1%
5 - 3.4%
6 - 6.6%
7 - 10.3%
8 - 14.2%

For just three confirmed non-offered Finalists and two confirmed offers

(Actual # of Alts - Probability of all offers)

4 - 7%
5 - 12.5%
6 - 17.7%
7 - 22.4%
8 - 26.4%

This assumes an offered candidate is equally as likely to have identified themselves on TLS as a non-offered finalist. If non-offered finalists came on here after the finalist notifications because they're worried and those who got offers just popped some corks, then this might not be true. It seems like everyone was on here before it was announced, so it's probably a safe assumption.

Anyway, the point is that based on what we know it's highly unlikely they've given out all 11 offers.

How's that for reading tea leaves? Good luck everyone.

[mtd5891]

With the Civil Rights Division going up, that only leaves Tax, correct?

[Anonymous User]

With the Civil Rights Division going up, that only leaves Tax, correct?

Still waiting on the Indian Country Fellowship as well.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone receive and/or hear of offers going out for ENRD?

[Anonymous User]

Re: Deana's note about finalist designations not being set in stone, does anybody have info on which if any divisions can seriously be expected to identify more finalists?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone receive and/or hear of offers going out for ENRD?

Deana Willis said finalists were ID'd and emails sent out at 9:51amEST. If you are a finalist, do you mind telling me your stats? Also interviewed with ENRD, but did not receive a finalist notice.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone receive and/or hear of offers going out for ENRD?

Deana Willis said finalists were ID'd and emails sent out at 9:51amEST. If you are a finalist, do you mind telling me your stats? Also interviewed with ENRD, but did not receive a finalist notice.

Asking about offers, not change in status to finalist. ENRD finalists have been notified, wondering if any offers have gone out.

[rw2188]

USTP finalists: have you received an email about locations preferences?

[seizmaar]

so did anyone make a facebook group or should i?

[catinthewall]

so did anyone make a facebook group or should i?

Do it! I'll join!

[Anonymous User]

USTP finalists: have you received an email about locations preferences?

Wondered the same, I have not.

[Hand]

Asking for friend: have CRT offers gone out yet?

[mi-chan17]

If someone makes the FB page, let me know.

[Anonymous User]

Dear OCIJ person who had references checked today (11/19):

Were all of your references checked? How did OCIJ contact them (phone, e-mail, etc.)?

[Anonymous User]

Thank you! I was Anonymous 4 on the spreadsheet. As far as stats, seeing other peoples just freaked me out about the process so I am not going to post mine. I will say that for future people who are discouraged based on statistics, don't let it stop you.

If this person is still around, would you mind at least disclosing if you're a veteran? Just trying to figure out possible explanations for staggered offers with ATR, if that's what's going on.

I'm not a veteran. I got a call from someone on my panel so it could just depend on who is making phone calls.

Thanks. Was your panel Crim people or a mix of attorneys from crim and civil sections?

Edit: Sorry for all the questions. Waiting is just difficult. I asked who was on your panel, because the thought occurred to me that the civil and crim sections might handle things somewhat differently and focus on different candidates considering how the work differs so much. If you had a panel of all crim, people it'd confirm that somewhat.

No worries! I am happy to answer non-stat related questions. I had one civil and two crim on my panel. The call came from one of the crim panelists since I will be in that panelist's section.

[Anonymous User]

No worries! I am happy to answer non-stat related questions. I had one civil and two crim on my panel. The call came from one of the crim panelists since I will be in that panelist's section.

Thanks! That makes sense and does make me think Crim maybe was doing their own thing. My three panelists were from three different civil sections, all different from the ones I worked in.

Hopefully the rest of us will find out more soon.

[Anonymous User]

USTP finalists: have you received an email about locations preferences?

Wondered the same, I have not.

Same here

[Anonymous User]

If someone makes the FB page, let me know.

Okay, I suck at Facebook, but I *think* I made a Facebook group. Try searching for a group called "DOJ Honors Attorneys 2015."

[Anonymous User]

If someone makes the FB page, let me know.

Okay, I suck at Facebook, but I *think* I made a Facebook group. Try searching for a group called "DOJ Honors Attorneys 2015."

When I searched it, "Sorry, we couldn't find any results for this search."

[Anonymous User]

If someone makes the FB page, let me know.

Okay, I suck at Facebook, but I *think* I made a Facebook group. Try searching for a group called "DOJ Honors Attorneys 2015."

When I searched it, "Sorry, we couldn't find any results for this search."

Man, I suck at this game. How about this? https://www.facebook.com/groups/741862179239397/

[Anonymous User]

If someone makes the FB page, let me know.

Okay, I suck at Facebook, but I *think* I made a Facebook group. Try searching for a group called "DOJ Honors Attorneys 2015."

When I searched it, "Sorry, we couldn't find any results for this search."

Man, I suck at this game. How about this? https://www.facebook.com/groups/741862179239397/

That works! I'm still a finalist, so I'll wait until i get an offer before joining the FB group

[catinthewall]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/741862179239397/

I posted it on the Avue thread. Goodbye, anonymity.

[Anonymous User]

Hope the phones are ringing today