Michigan 2013 OCI Thread Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:miller canfield (detroit) chi cb by phone and edwards wildman chi cb by email today
What's the word on Detroit firms? Any offers yet?

i don't think so. they have been scheduling into october so they're definitely slower than other markets

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:42 am

Anonymous User wrote: My "anecdotal evidence" wasn't from Michigan students, it was from friends at NYU/Columbia who said that the number of people they knew who were 0 or 1 for ~10 callbacks was unusually high and that it seemed as though firms were calling back a far higher number of people relative to their hiring needs than normal. It could be that class sizes are shrinking and callback amounts remain the same, or vice versa. But this may not affect Michigan students that much anyway since i'm sure firms put a little more thought into the callbacks that are going to cost them ~$1000 than the ones that don't cost anything.

Again, totally anecdotal, but thought it was relevant to pass on given the OP's situation.

Actually, I'm not so sure that your information is relevant to Michigan students. Not to pile on anecdotes, but I know an associate who does recruiting at her NY firm, and she said that the call back calculus with local schools (Columbia, NYU, Fordham...) is much different than it is with non-local schools like Michigan. In her words, if it will only cost a cab ride, her firm has no problem "giving a student a second look". But the standards are higher when a call back costs the firm a flight, hotel, transportation, and per diems. This could just as easily be the cause of the divergent cb/offer rates between Columbia/NYU and Michigan and not a shrinking economy.

Also, FWIW, on one of these threads there's a link to Columbia's cb/offer rates. If you dig you can find it.

applepiecrust · Post by **applepiecrust** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:02 pm

Just wanted to say that for anyone that does not have offers yet, please make sure you are mass-mailing. A 3L helped me with mass-mailing strategies that got me great offers last fall and I would like to pay that forward, so PM me if you would like to discuss strategies/tips.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:05 pm

Has anyone gotten a ding from Schiff yet? Wondering about the tiered callbacks and if that's true...

Druid · Post by **Druid** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone gotten a ding from Schiff yet? Wondering about the tiered callbacks and if that's true...

http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 3&t=215200

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:31 pm

Faegre Minneapolis callback just now.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:52 pm

A&O ding by email.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:53 pm

K&L Chi ding by snail mail

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:20 am

PSA: If you haven't been dinged by a particular firm, reach out to 3Ls who summered there. Ask us about the firm and the process. A phone call or an email sent on your behalf can bring you to the top of pile. Also, until you have an offer in-hand, know that hustling trumps classwork and class attendance.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:03 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
What's the word on Detroit firms? Any offers yet?

Three callbacks so far and no word from any. Although, I was told by one firm that the hiring committee won't meet until mid-September, so that explains why I haven't heard back from them, yet.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
What's the word on Detroit firms? Any offers yet?
Three callbacks so far and no word from any. Although, I was told by one firm that the hiring committee won't meet until mid-September, so that explains why I haven't heard back from them, yet.

Mind sharing which firm's hiring committee won't be meeting until mid-Sept.?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:37 am

Anyone heard from Pattishall? I really liked them, but I know their class size is small.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:11 am

I'm an associate at a Detroit firm. The slow Detroit response rate may be because the other Michigan law schools don't do OCI generally until class begins, so I think we're waiting to see some of those people first before we start making offers.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:42 am

Does anyone have any specific insight into CB-to-Offer timeline for Detroit firms? I know some have mentioned it is "a while", but any specific numbers? I've had a few callbacks and the firms have all said offers are made on a rolling basis, but I was given no specific timeline.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone heard from Pattishall? I really liked them, but I know their class size is small.

CB from them a few weeks ago.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:54 pm

Anyone heard news, good or bad, from these Chicago offices?

Dykema
Sheppard Mullin
Greenberg
Schiff (I think there have been CBs, but haven't seen any dings)

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone heard news, good or bad, from these Chicago offices?

Dykema
Sheppard Mullin
Greenberg
Schiff (I think there have been CBs, but haven't seen any dings)

Can confirm dings on all but Schiff, which I didn't have.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone heard news, good or bad, from these Chicago offices?

Dykema
Sheppard Mullin
Greenberg
Schiff (I think there have been CBs, but haven't seen any dings)

CB from Dykema and CB from Schiff.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:47 pm

Anyone heard from these Chi firms:

Reed Smith
Baker McKenzie
Thompson Coburn
Edelson
Perkins Coie

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:29 pm

Received a Perkins Chi ding today

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Received a Perkins Chi ding today

How? Snail mail?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:06 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Received a Perkins Chi ding today
How? Snail mail?

Via email

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:51 am

Reed Smith ding today via email.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:29 pm

Has anyone heard from any non-NYC offices of Nixon Peabody?

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