NY GOES TO 180k! IT HAPPENED!!!! (CovingTTTon does a 180! Holder wept.) Forum

[Anonymous User]

goddammit jones day you're killing me here

Heard from pretty well sourced folks that "unofficially" JD will match before OCI begins. Unofficial b/c Brogan hasn't declared it officially.

This is what I figured. Though I think it sends the wrong message. It will be an elephant in the corner for current summers probably leading to many of them pursuing 3L OCI and many schools' deadline for bidding is in a couple weeks.

Not to mention that with over 1,000 domestic attorneys, at least a few will lateral between now and OCI out of either impatience/frustration.

TL;DR I just don't get the basis behind the holdout -- the market has made up its mind.

[Anonymous User]

What is best in life Hogan?

Crush CovingTTTon. See it driven before you. Hear the lamentations of its women.

[Anonymous User]

What is best in life Hogan?

Crush CovingTTTon. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.

Thinking I should try and lateral to Hogan.

[Anonymous User]

goddammit jones day you're killing me here

Heard from pretty well sourced folks that "unofficially" JD will match before OCI begins. Unofficial b/c Brogan hasn't declared it officially.

This is what I figured. Though I think it sends the wrong message. It will be an elephant in the corner for current summers probably leading to many of them pursuing 3L OCI and many schools' deadline for bidding is in a couple weeks.

Not to mention that with over 1,000 domestic attorneys, at least a few will lateral between now and OCI out of either impatience/frustration.

TL;DR I just don't get the basis behind the holdout -- the market has made up its mind.

I don't exactly disagree, but no one at JD can be that surprised, although the message is usually that folks make market, it's also that this isn't the firm to go to if you want top dollar. My bet is that announcement comes with regularly scheduled comp memos at end of month. If so, then JD is just doing what it's always done, not worrying about public perception on this sort of thing.

[Anonymous User]

goddammit jones day you're killing me here

My best guess is JD WH and A&P are holding hands sheltering under Covingttton. This allows them to save prestige-face by saying they are following their "peers".

They're all gnats before the might of Uncle Hogan. Bow before your new God.

[Anonymous User]

Thinking I should try and lateral to Hogan.

It's a good firm to work for. Generally nice folks and solid attorneys.

[Anonymous User]

Bumped for spreadsheet

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[rpupkin]

Thinking I should try and lateral to Hogan.

It's a good firm to work for. Generally nice folks and solid attorneys.

LOL@this kind of anon statement.

[tuhaybey]

It's a good firm to work for. Generally nice folks and solid attorneys.

LOL@this kind of anon statement.

LOL. Fair point. That was an abuse of anon posting. The one quoted above is me.

[Anonymous User]

goddammit jones day you're killing me here

Heard from pretty well sourced folks that "unofficially" JD will match before OCI begins. Unofficial b/c Brogan hasn't declared it officially.

This is what I figured. Though I think it sends the wrong message. It will be an elephant in the corner for current summers probably leading to many of them pursuing 3L OCI and many schools' deadline for bidding is in a couple weeks.

Not to mention that with over 1,000 domestic attorneys, at least a few will lateral between now and OCI out of either impatience/frustration.

TL;DR I just don't get the basis behind the holdout -- the market has made up its mind.

JD has a national summer associate event in DC this week and each office can submit to Brogan questions to ask. I wonder which brave soul will come to associates' rescue.

[PennBull]

goddammit jones day you're killing me here

Heard from pretty well sourced folks that "unofficially" JD will match before OCI begins. Unofficial b/c Brogan hasn't declared it officially.

This is what I figured. Though I think it sends the wrong message. It will be an elephant in the corner for current summers probably leading to many of them pursuing 3L OCI and many schools' deadline for bidding is in a couple weeks.

Not to mention that with over 1,000 domestic attorneys, at least a few will lateral between now and OCI out of either impatience/frustration.

TL;DR I just don't get the basis behind the holdout -- the market has made up its mind.

JD has a national summer associate event in DC this week and each office can submit to Brogan questions to ask. I wonder which brave soul will come to associates' rescue.

The right move is if literally every associate asks the same question.

[Anonymous User]

goddammit jones day you're killing me here

Heard from pretty well sourced folks that "unofficially" JD will match before OCI begins. Unofficial b/c Brogan hasn't declared it officially.

This is what I figured. Though I think it sends the wrong message. It will be an elephant in the corner for current summers probably leading to many of them pursuing 3L OCI and many schools' deadline for bidding is in a couple weeks.

Not to mention that with over 1,000 domestic attorneys, at least a few will lateral between now and OCI out of either impatience/frustration.

TL;DR I just don't get the basis behind the holdout -- the market has made up its mind.

JD has a national summer associate event in DC this week and each office can submit to Brogan questions to ask. I wonder which brave soul will come to associates' rescue.

The right move is if literally every associate asks the same question.

If I recall correctly, during my summer we were explicitly told not to mention money during Q&A

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Damn, black box Q&A sessions as well.

[Anonymous User]

Damn, black box Q&A sessions as well.

I honestly don't get why Brogan is so sensitive about money. I think the whole "it breeds mistrust" is more at the partner level --> there I could see blackbox making sense.

But again, Brogan is someone with a longterm vision for the Firm (and, objectively, has done the Firm well), which goes against the short shelf-life nature of being an associate.

[imalreadyamember?]

It's a good firm to work for. Generally nice folks and solid attorneys.

LOL@this kind of anon statement.

LOL. Fair point. That was an abuse of anon posting. The one quoted above is me.

I mean, if you work there that's kind of the exact thing anon posting is meant for.

[PennBull]

It's a good firm to work for. Generally nice folks and solid attorneys.

LOL@this kind of anon statement.

LOL. Fair point. That was an abuse of anon posting. The one quoted above is me.

I mean, if you work there that's kind of the exact thing anon posting is meant for.

No it's not but nvm

[soj]

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[imalreadyamember?]

It's a good firm to work for. Generally nice folks and solid attorneys.

LOL@this kind of anon statement.

LOL. Fair point. That was an abuse of anon posting. The one quoted above is me.

I mean, if you work there that's kind of the exact thing anon posting is meant for.

No it's not but nvm

Maybe I don't understand, but revealing the firm you work at isn't sensitive? Obviously it's not tipster level info but I guess I misunderstood if it's not meant also for outing yourself as a [X firm] associate in a megathread wherein we bitch about our firms. Fuck if I'm gonna risk being found out by even a coworker let alone anybody who matters.

[TLSModBot]

HOgans before BROgans

[jbagelboy]

Everyone seems to know who I am and where I work and so I gotta own all the dumb shit I say

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[rpupkin]

Maybe I don't understand, but revealing the firm you work at isn't sensitive? Obviously it's not tipster level info but I guess I misunderstood if it's not meant also for outing yourself as a [X firm] associate in a megathread wherein we bitch about our firms. Fuck if I'm gonna risk being found out by even a coworker let alone anybody who matters.

For the record, my issue wasn't with the use of anon alone; it was with the banal "generally nice folks and solid attorneys" line. C'mon. I'm sure there are some nice, "solid" attorneys at Hogan, just like there are at every big law firm. And I'm confident that there are some unpleasant folks as well. It's a law firm.

[PennBull]

Everyone seems to know who I am and where I work and so I gotta own all the dumb shit I say

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Yep

[imalreadyamember?]

Maybe I don't understand, but revealing the firm you work at isn't sensitive? Obviously it's not tipster level info but I guess I misunderstood if it's not meant also for outing yourself as a [X firm] associate in a megathread wherein we bitch about our firms. Fuck if I'm gonna risk being found out by even a coworker let alone anybody who matters.

For the record, my issue wasn't with the use of anon alone; it was with the banal "generally nice folks and solid attorneys" line. C'mon. I'm sure there are some nice, "solid" attorneys at Hogan, just like there are at every big law firm. And I'm confident that there are some unpleasant folks as well. It's a law firm.

Haha yeah that's true. I did laugh about that. Okay, that's fair. Sorry, I know I'm pretty new to this place. I just notice a lot of Anon griping. If I'd been here longer I'm sure I'd do the same so I'm not judging or calling that out. Just trying to understand.

[TFALAWL]

Everyone seems to know who I am and where I work and so I gotta own all the dumb shit I say

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Do you look like Bill Murray in real life?

[tuhaybey]

For the record, my issue wasn't with the use of anon alone; it was with the banal "generally nice folks and solid attorneys" line. C'mon. I'm sure there are some nice, "solid" attorneys at Hogan, just like there are at every big law firm. And I'm confident that there are some unpleasant folks as well. It's a law firm.

I'm sure there are some unpleasant folks lurking around. But, IMO, Hogan is well above the norm in that regard. At least out of the firms I've worked with and for. Lots of partners who spent a chunk of their career in government posts and as a result had a chance to develop a life somewhere along the way. Could just be my personal experience, but I've been pretty struck by the difference since I lateraled there.

Anyways, sure, banal comment, but the other poster sort of asked.