Georgetown OCI 2019 Forum

[Anonymous User]

It's beyond their control to some extent. The lack of hires from 2019 OCI would become an unappealing data point for many firms. GULC is more likely to focus their efforts on students if they take action at all. The most probable outcome would be them holding tons of events/workshops for next years' 2Ls in an effort to improve their people skills before OCI. If they're feelin real wild they may even start conducting interviews for new admits.

Another possible explanation is that there's a downturn in hiring this year due to warnings of a recession.

[Anonymous User]

I talked to two attorneys at one hospitality suite and when I mentioned I didn't have an interview, one of them took my resume and suggested to the other attorney that they interview me on the spot. In response, she made a face to indicate she did not intend to do that. I thought it might have been because there was one other GULC student in the room, so I stuck around and talked to them for 10-15 minutes. She proceeded to take over the entire conversation and brag to me extensively about her expensive house. We literally did not talk about the firm or anything else at all, because she wouldn't let me get a word in. When I left, she seemed amused when saying "it was great to meet you."
My GPA is above their 75th percentile, so I definitely don't think it's a GPA thing.

I'm sorry. Maybe they'd already filled up all their GULC CB slots. Or maybe the other attorney just made a "gut feeling" judgment. Unlike law school admissions, OCI hiring is idiosyncratic. In the mine run of firms, we can say that, e.g., the top 10% at GULC will do great at OCI. But that doesn't guarantee an offer or even just a callback from any given firm.

I get that, but if being respectful for ten minutes was out of the question, then they should have consulted with their PR team before deciding to host a hospitality suite.

[Anonymous User]

It's beyond their control to some extent. The lack of hires from 2019 OCI would become an unappealing data point for many firms. GULC is more likely to focus their efforts on students if they take action at all. The most probable outcome would be them holding tons of events/workshops for next years' 2Ls in an effort to improve their people skills before OCI. If they're feelin real wild they may even start conducting interviews for new admits.

Another possible explanation is that there's a downturn in hiring this year due to warnings of a recession.

Do people know whether there’s a downturn in hiring. Every year there are about 275 Georgetown students who don’t get jobs through OCI and many of them vent there frustrations on this page. I think it’s to early to know whether there is a downturn in hiring. Many of the people who are doing really well don’t post on TLS. Plus, the firms that I spoke too said the plan on having the same class size as last year.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone received any offers yet?

I have for NY V50 firm

[Anonymous User]

It's beyond their control to some extent. The lack of hires from 2019 OCI would become an unappealing data point for many firms. GULC is more likely to focus their efforts on students if they take action at all. The most probable outcome would be them holding tons of events/workshops for next years' 2Ls in an effort to improve their people skills before OCI. If they're feelin real wild they may even start conducting interviews for new admits.

Another possible explanation is that there's a downturn in hiring this year due to warnings of a recession.

Do people know whether there’s a downturn in hiring. Every year there are about 275 Georgetown students who don’t get jobs through OCI and many of them vent there frustrations on this page. I think it’s to early to know whether there is a downturn in hiring. Many of the people who are doing really well don’t post on TLS. Plus, the firms that I spoke too said the plan on having the same class size as last year.

We have stats on the expected class sizes for 2020 somewhere, and I actually recall there being an upward trend.

[Anonymous User]

It's beyond their control to some extent. The lack of hires from 2019 OCI would become an unappealing data point for many firms. GULC is more likely to focus their efforts on students if they take action at all. The most probable outcome would be them holding tons of events/workshops for next years' 2Ls in an effort to improve their people skills before OCI. If they're feelin real wild they may even start conducting interviews for new admits.

Another possible explanation is that there's a downturn in hiring this year due to warnings of a recession.

Do people know whether there’s a downturn in hiring. Every year there are about 275 Georgetown students who don’t get jobs through OCI and many of them vent there frustrations on this page. I think it’s to early to know whether there is a downturn in hiring. Many of the people who are doing really well don’t post on TLS. Plus, the firms that I spoke too said the plan on having the same class size as last year.

We have stats on the expected class sizes for 2020 somewhere, and I actually recall there being an upward trend.

There are definitely a sizeable number of firms that are downsizing their classes -- don't know if the number of SAs overall is down

[Anonymous User]

It's beyond their control to some extent. The lack of hires from 2019 OCI would become an unappealing data point for many firms. GULC is more likely to focus their efforts on students if they take action at all. The most probable outcome would be them holding tons of events/workshops for next years' 2Ls in an effort to improve their people skills before OCI. If they're feelin real wild they may even start conducting interviews for new admits.

Another possible explanation is that there's a downturn in hiring this year due to warnings of a recession.

Do people know whether there’s a downturn in hiring. Every year there are about 275 Georgetown students who don’t get jobs through OCI and many of them vent there frustrations on this page. I think it’s to early to know whether there is a downturn in hiring. Many of the people who are doing really well don’t post on TLS. Plus, the firms that I spoke too said the plan on having the same class size as last year.

We have stats on the expected class sizes for 2020 somewhere, and I actually recall there being an upward trend.

There are definitely a sizeable number of firms that are downsizing their classes -- don't know if the number of SAs overall is down

The point is that no one should be basing their projections based on what’s posted on the TLS page. I know people who already received offers and people who have received 8+ CB’s who do not post on this page.

[Anonymous User]

It's beyond their control to some extent. The lack of hires from 2019 OCI would become an unappealing data point for many firms. GULC is more likely to focus their efforts on students if they take action at all. The most probable outcome would be them holding tons of events/workshops for next years' 2Ls in an effort to improve their people skills before OCI. If they're feelin real wild they may even start conducting interviews for new admits.

Another possible explanation is that there's a downturn in hiring this year due to warnings of a recession.

Do people know whether there’s a downturn in hiring. Every year there are about 275 Georgetown students who don’t get jobs through OCI and many of them vent there frustrations on this page. I think it’s to early to know whether there is a downturn in hiring. Many of the people who are doing really well don’t post on TLS. Plus, the firms that I spoke too said the plan on having the same class size as last year.

We have stats on the expected class sizes for 2020 somewhere, and I actually recall there being an upward trend.

There are definitely a sizeable number of firms that are downsizing their classes -- don't know if the number of SAs overall is down

The point is that no one should be basing their projections based on what’s posted on the TLS page. I know people who already received offers and people who have received 8+ CB’s who do not post on this page.

Awesome! Thanks for the cheery update! Really appreciated! You're a doll!

[Anonymous User]

What does it mean if ding emails have been sent out and you haven't gotten one?
Does it mean your B list and there's hope or does it mean you just haven't been dinged yet.

[Janeaustengal]

What does it mean if ding emails have been sent out and you haven't gotten one?
Does it mean your B list and there's hope or does it mean you just haven't been dinged yet.

Wondering this about DB, heard of a few dings but don't know of any callbacks yet and haven't heard anything either way

[Anonymous User]

Email CBs from McNees Wallace & Nurick and Young Conaway Stargatt & Taylor

[Anonymous User]

What does it mean if ding emails have been sent out and you haven't gotten one?
Does it mean your B list and there's hope or does it mean you just haven't been dinged yet.

Could be either one

[Anonymous User]

Reed Smith ding

NY or DC?

[Anonymous User]

Anything from Epstein (resume collect)?

[Anonymous User]

Ding from Axinn, in case that applies to anybody else. Really bummed because I loved them and thought I nailed the interview.

[Anonymous User]

HAS ANYONE
I REPEAT
ANYONE
HEARD BACK FROM HOLLAND & KNIGHT?

[Anonymous User]

K&E DC Ding
Skadden DC Ding
Latham DC Ding
GD DC CB
BSF DC CB

[Janeaustengal]

Anyone heard anything about Skadden London or have any instincts on it? Dinged from DC office but heard nothing from or about London, can't help being hopeful. Interviewed a week ago today. Nobody I know has heard anything.

[Anonymous User]

3.8x GPA. `10+ interviews, all DC. 1 callback, 8 dings, several radio silence

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard from smaller/midsized firms?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear anything from Morris Nichols or Potter Anderson? DE firms

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard of or received a William's and Connolly CB?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard of or received a William's and Connolly CB?

Well, they dinged me, so I assume they issued call backs

[Anonymous User]

if an interviewer gave us their card and said to contact them with any questions should we follow up if we dont hear anything within a week?

[Anonymous User]

I talked to two attorneys at one hospitality suite and when I mentioned I didn't have an interview, one of them took my resume and suggested to the other attorney that they interview me on the spot. In response, she made a face to indicate she did not intend to do that. I thought it might have been because there was one other GULC student in the room, so I stuck around and talked to them for 10-15 minutes. She proceeded to take over the entire conversation and brag to me extensively about her expensive house. We literally did not talk about the firm or anything else at all, because she wouldn't let me get a word in. When I left, she seemed amused when saying "it was great to meet you."
My GPA is above their 75th percentile, so I definitely don't think it's a GPA thing.

I'm sorry. Maybe they'd already filled up all their GULC CB slots. Or maybe the other attorney just made a "gut feeling" judgment. Unlike law school admissions, OCI hiring is idiosyncratic. In the mine run of firms, we can say that, e.g., the top 10% at GULC will do great at OCI. But that doesn't guarantee an offer or even just a callback from any given firm.

I get that, but if being respectful for ten minutes was out of the question, then they should have consulted with their PR team before deciding to host a hospitality suite.

Honestly, what happens mostly is that firms just ask for whoever and whichever attorneys are available to come to the hospitality suite, so it's not usually going to be a situation where the firm is selecting their best-foot-forward folks--sometimes, some real turds show up to those things. Sorry about your experience, don't let it reflect too heavily on the firm. If you spoke to a recruiter at the hospitality suite, they are usually the ones with more pull over who should be interviewed from the non-interviewees that show up at the suites (unless you speak to a hiring attorney).

Source: I'm at a firm and I participate in recruiting.