UVa OGI 2011 thread Forum

[dgouzoul]

[thesealocust]

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[uvahooo]

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+1 to this

btw, i like your new tar.

[bgdddymtty]

Well played, sir.

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[Anonymous User]

quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.

[bgdddymtty]

quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.

Only the students that put them on their lottery lists.

[Anonymous User]

quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.

Only the students that put them on their lottery lists.

Anon poster here. Weird. That's what I thought, but then I looked at the OGI handbook and I saw that only 50 or so ppl bid on Skadden NY, which I thought was way too low for them to only focus on the people that bid, which led me to believe they look beyond that.

[Anonymous User]

quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.

Only the students that put them on their lottery lists.

Anon poster here. Weird. That's what I thought, but then I looked at the OGI handbook and I saw that only 50 or so ppl bid on Skadden NY, which I thought was way too low for them to only focus on the people that bid, which led me to believe they look beyond that.

What in the world are you talking about?

[Anonymous User]

quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.

Only the students that put them on their lottery lists.

Anon poster here. Weird. That's what I thought, but then I looked at the OGI handbook and I saw that only 50 or so ppl bid on Skadden NY, which I thought was way too low for them to only focus on the people that bid, which led me to believe they look beyond that.

What in the world are you talking about?

Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.

[Anonymous User]

Why would Skadden want to interview students that didn't bid on them? You make no sense. If that was the case every firm would just preselect the top 20 GPAs at the school and that's it.

WTF.

[5ky]

Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.

Yes, only if you bid on them. It's really not that unusual -- Paul Weiss, Cravath, Shearman, STB all had similar bid numbers. Really, not that many people bid on NY firms (compared to DC, e.g.), and fewer people will bid on top firms since the likelihood of being pre-selected is smaller.

[Anonymous User]

Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.

Yes, only if you bid on them. It's really not that unusual -- Paul Weiss, Cravath, Shearman, STB all had similar bid numbers. Really, not that many people bid on NY firms (compared to DC, e.g.), and fewer people will bid on top firms since the likelihood of being pre-selected is smaller.

The likelihood of getting preselected is actually higher. Much, much, much higher in some situations. However, the likelihood of getting hired is much lower.

[5ky]

Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.

Yes, only if you bid on them. It's really not that unusual -- Paul Weiss, Cravath, Shearman, STB all had similar bid numbers. Really, not that many people bid on NY firms (compared to DC, e.g.), and fewer people will bid on top firms since the likelihood of being pre-selected is smaller.

The likelihood of getting preselected is actually higher. Much, much, much higher in some situations. However, the likelihood of getting hired is much lower.

Sure, if you're going by pure bid to preselect ratio, but you knew that's not what I meant. Plus, even with the much higher number of bids, a person with a 3.15 probably had a much better chance of getting preselected by a Brown Rudnick than by Skadden or STB. So given the grade distribution, fewer students will be bidding on those higher level firms.

[Anonymous User]

Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.

Yes, only if you bid on them. It's really not that unusual -- Paul Weiss, Cravath, Shearman, STB all had similar bid numbers. Really, not that many people bid on NY firms (compared to DC, e.g.), and fewer people will bid on top firms since the likelihood of being pre-selected is smaller.

Many thanks. That clears thinks up and is somewhat of a relief.

[oneforship]

6 days.

[Anonymous User]

How many preselects is everyone expecting?

I'm expecting 15-20 w/ top 25% grades. Bid on DC, Chi, NYC. Mainly NYC.

[Anonymous User]

How many preselects is everyone expecting?

I'm expecting 15-20 w/ top 25% grades. Bid on DC, Chi, NYC. Mainly NYC.

I'm hoping to get 20+ w/ top 15%, bidding on DC and TX primarily, with some bids spread over Chi/NYC/Boston.

[Anonymous User]

How many preselects is everyone expecting?

I'm expecting 15-20 w/ top 25% grades. Bid on DC, Chi, NYC. Mainly NYC.

That's about what I was expecting, but I have top 15% grades and bid solely on NYC. Maybe I should be expecting more.

[Anonymous User]

I'm expecting between 15-20 with slightly above a 3.48 and bidding almost all NYC. About right?

[Anonymous User]

Top 10%, all DC. No idea what to expect. But Career Services seemed optimistic...

[showNprove]

Unless there are less firms coming this year than last, you all are very much underestimating your pre-selects...unless you bid heavily on DC...unless you're in the Top 10% of your class, in which case DC is fine.

Then again, I guess it's good to not get your hopes up, just in case. But don't be surprised if your 3.5, all NYC bids nets you more than 20 pre-selects.

[Anonymous User]

Unless there are less firms coming this year than last, you all are very much underestimating your pre-selects...unless you bid heavily on DC...unless you're in the Top 10% of your class, in which case DC is fine.

Then again, I guess it's good to not get your hopes up, just in case. But don't be surprised if your 3.5, all NYC bids nets you more than 20 pre-selects.

[Anonymous User]

Unless there are less firms coming this year than last, you all are very much underestimating your pre-selects...unless you bid heavily on DC...unless you're in the Top 10% of your class, in which case DC is fine.

Then again, I guess it's good to not get your hopes up, just in case. But don't be surprised if your 3.5, all NYC bids nets you more than 20 pre-selects.

RVP, Cavalier, TheSeaLocust, etc care to weigh in on this?

[Cavalier]

Unless there are less firms coming this year than last, you all are very much underestimating your pre-selects...unless you bid heavily on DC...unless you're in the Top 10% of your class, in which case DC is fine.

Then again, I guess it's good to not get your hopes up, just in case. But don't be surprised if your 3.5, all NYC bids nets you more than 20 pre-selects.

RVP, Cavalier, TheSeaLocust, etc care to weigh in on this?

That statement is accurate; nothing to add.