Cravath's Spawn - the Wave of Copycats - RUNNING TALLY Forum

[Anonymous User]

Firms that have recently matched to update the list:

Andrews Kurth - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/a-top-te ... s-offices/

Allen and Ovary - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/another- ... -of-a-hat/

King and Spalding - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/firm-wit ... -new-york/

Katten Muchin - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/big-mone ... y-for-one/

Wilmerhale - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/another- ... -salaries/

fish and richardson - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/boston-b ... l-offices/

Choate Hall - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/firm-kic ... th-raises/

[TLSModBot]

Allen and Ovary

[generaltoast]

Brown Rudnick now spread the match to all US offices, including Hartford and Providence

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/firm-tha ... ionwide/2/

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know how this will affect Holland & Hart and other leading Mountain West firms?

I suspect they'll be falling all over themselves to match Gibson's rise to 180 in its Denver office.

Are you saying you don't think these firms will bump up at all given nationwide rise? 1st year Salary at these firms was 140ish before so not like they're a backwater dump. Including bennies and 401k match my all in 1st year offer was just shy of 160. And also because of way lower leverage their PPP will drop a lot less than almost all firms itt.

Just leads me to think they would at least do something? I'm an incoming first year so not privy to the rumblings around the office yet

[El Pollito]

Allen and Ovary

[Anonymous User]

JD won't announce a "scale" due to black box, but not sure what the hold up is on announcing 1st years. I wouldn't have expected them to be an early mover while trying to figure out how best to deal with the secondary cities, but this week gave us answers on most of those, now they're the last v20 or v30 or v(whatever) not to move. With recruiting bid lists due shortly at many schools, you'd have to expect something soon.

I think they just operate at their own pace. For better or for worse, they don't GAF about public perception. Internally, attorneys will forgive and forget once they announce all raises retroactive to July 1, which I know they will.

Actually JD is the only V55 not to move now I think, GT also hasn't moved yet or it would be V60...

I think K&L and Linklaters also have not moved yet

[Anonymous User]

We Miamians are notoriously late to everything.... Maybe that's why GT and Miami generally hasn't raised... yet. Has to be it.

[Anonymous User]

JD won't announce a "scale" due to black box, but not sure what the hold up is on announcing 1st years. I wouldn't have expected them to be an early mover while trying to figure out how best to deal with the secondary cities, but this week gave us answers on most of those, now they're the last v20 or v30 or v(whatever) not to move. With recruiting bid lists due shortly at many schools, you'd have to expect something soon.

I think they just operate at their own pace. For better or for worse, they don't GAF about public perception. Internally, attorneys will forgive and forget once they announce all raises retroactive to July 1, which I know they will.

Actually JD is the only V55 not to move now I think, GT also hasn't moved yet or it would be V60...

I think K&L and Linklaters also have not moved yet

And Pillsbury and Perkins

[Anonymous User]

JD won't announce a "scale" due to black box, but not sure what the hold up is on announcing 1st years. I wouldn't have expected them to be an early mover while trying to figure out how best to deal with the secondary cities, but this week gave us answers on most of those, now they're the last v20 or v30 or v(whatever) not to move. With recruiting bid lists due shortly at many schools, you'd have to expect something soon.

I think they just operate at their own pace. For better or for worse, they don't GAF about public perception. Internally, attorneys will forgive and forget once they announce all raises retroactive to July 1, which I know they will.

Actually JD is the only V55 not to move now I think, GT also hasn't moved yet or it would be V60...

I think K&L and Linklaters also have not moved yet

And Pillsbury and Perkins

K&L matched first years last week but the rest is black box. Probably the same thing that JD will do?

[Anonymous User]

What are we thinking about Reed Smith?

[Anonymous User]

Thoughts on if Foley and Lardner will match in all major markets? I would expect they'd have to if they want to retain talent. What about Milwaukee on one hand being 20-40k below Chicago and yet Milwaukee being the mothership.

Other side is, what will they do in secondary markets? Bump them all up by the cravath increase amount yet still below NYC values - so Detroit goes to ~160k

[North]

Greenberg Traurig just matched.

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[North]

At least for NY, not sure about other offices. Reliable source.

[Anonymous User]

What are we thinking about Reed Smith?

I highly doubt it. Although there is a rumor in the PGH office that they were thinking about it for NYC.

[Anonymous User]

What are we thinking about Reed Smith?

I highly doubt it. Although there is a rumor in the PGH office that they were thinking about it for NYC.

That would make sense, given that some other offices got raises within the last year/NYC hasn't moved in a while.

[Anonymous User]

What are we thinking about Reed Smith?

I highly doubt it. Although there is a rumor in the PGH office that they were thinking about it for NYC.

That would make sense, given that some other offices got raises within the last year/NYC hasn't moved in a while.

any details on the rumor?

[1styearlateral]

I'd be surprised if RS/KL didn't match in NYC. Not expecting a match or bump anywhere else tho.

[barkschool]

What are we thinking about Reed Smith?

That they might collapse

[Anonymous User]

Sheppard Mullin match in all offices.

[bowser]

How compressed are the non-NYC-salary scales, even the ones that start at 180K?

I was under the impression Chicago, SF, DC and LA generally followed the scale all the way up (although I've heard conflicting reports on this).

Smaller markets either start lower with very small raises (like 135K maxing out a 160K or something) or start at 180/160K with much smaller raises.

Is that pretty accurate?

[nahumya]

Firms that have recently matched to update the list:

Andrews Kurth - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/a-top-te ... s-offices/

Allen and Ovary - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/another- ... -of-a-hat/

King and Spalding - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/firm-wit ... -new-york/

Katten Muchin - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/big-mone ... y-for-one/

Wilmerhale - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/another- ... -salaries/

Fish and Richardson - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/boston-b ... l-offices/

Choate Hall - http://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/firm-kic ... th-raises/

Thanks.

[Anonymous User]

Wow..even some non-ranked firms have caved. Just read a piece in the Tampa Times that Schaffer Pus just raised to 175k

[Anonymous User]

Chadbourne to 180.

[monsterman]

Wow..even some non-ranked firms have caved. Just read a piece in the Tampa Times that Schaffer Pus just raised to 175k

[Big Shrimpin]

Chadbourne to 180.

Whoa