The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls) Forum

[spleenworship]

I'm tearing my hair out waiting to hear back from my callbacks. I had trouble sleeping last night for the first time in a while. feelsbadman.

I hear you bro. Good luck.

[Bikeflip]

Encouraging to hear, bros. As someone who just passed this past week, any tips on the post-pass search? Besides updating materials, are you doing anything differently?

Outside of volunteering part time to make some new contacts, get into the courtroom and avoid that resume blank I'm not exactly sure what else you could do.

Soo... everything I am doing.

Still, good to know.

[a male human]

Damn it. Decided to work part time for $15/hr for a while. At least it's relevant to the field I want to get into.

[spleenworship]

It's just temporary bro.

[Anonymous User]

I apologize if I am posting to the wrong forum.

Class of 2011 grad here from T-25 school with a computer engineering background. I was no-offered from my 1L summer firm. As expected, I struck out during 2L OCI in 2009 with the no-offer hanging over my head. 3L OCI was a joke. After graduating and passing the bar, I went to work at the PTO as a patent examiner. I've been there for almost two years, but now I am thinking about re-starting my search. Should I leave the "no-offer" 1L firm off my resume?

This is kind of odd. I would have expected you to have been able to find something even with the 1L no-offer. As it is, I'm not totally sure how firms will view your PTO experience. On the one hand, it's valuable substantive experience. On the other hand, they will wonder why you were unable to get a firm job after graduation.

I think you should be able to find something, most likely at a lower-ranked boutique. Focus on cs/ee prosecution listings (obviously). Nobody will give a shit about your 1L no-offer.

[a male human]

For patent prosecution, PTO experience is actually really desirable. It should pique someone's interest.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else surprised by how barren symplicity has been? I have not seen this level of inactivity before.

Haven't heard anything from mass mailings. I haven't seen any openings/postings. So fucked.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else surprised by how barren symplicity has been? I have not seen this level of inactivity before.

Haven't heard anything from mass mailings. I haven't seen any openings/postings. So fucked.

I just checked ours. We have activity but not in our state where, you know, all of us just took the bar. Greaaaaat.

[BarbellDreams]

Our activity consists of "Hey, Vermont is hiring" and "Hey, there is this awesome firm in town looking for 5+ years experience".

[oasis87]

Our activity consists of "Hey, Vermont is hiring" and "Hey, there is this awesome firm in town looking for 5+ years experience".

yeah there are either a ton of legal jobs in Vergennes, VT (never heard of it before) or just one law firm spamming the whole country

[Bikeflip]

I find local bars have have better (and by better I mean moar 0-3 yr jerbs) jerb poasts.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else surprised by how barren symplicity has been? I have not seen this level of inactivity before.

Haven't heard anything from mass mailings. I haven't seen any openings/postings. So fucked.

It is dead dead at my t-14. Also, the TLS legal employment thread seems more dead than last year, particularly for 3Ls. Either people are doing better than expected so are not all the time here, or they have given up and accepted more willingly their fate.

[chrisbru]

Callback yesterday went REALLY well. I don't want to get too excited about it, but it sounds like they need to hire one more person and its between me and one other person. This is the firm that I REALLY like that my buddy/roommate already accepted an offer for. It's insurance defense (which is exactly what I wanted to do), the perfect size, and has really good attorneys to learn from.

Super stoked, cross your fingers for me.

[snowpeach06]

Good luck!!!

[northwood]

Callback yesterday went REALLY well. I don't want to get too excited about it, but it sounds like they need to hire one more person and its between me and one other person. This is the firm that I REALLY like that my buddy/roommate already accepted an offer for. It's insurance defense (which is exactly what I wanted to do), the perfect size, and has really good attorneys to learn from.

Super stoked, cross your fingers for me.

fingers duly crossed

[kalvano]

Best of luck, sir. But it sounds very promising.

[spleenworship]

Crossed. Good luck!

[BarbellDreams]

Callback yesterday went REALLY well. I don't want to get too excited about it, but it sounds like they need to hire one more person and its between me and one other person. This is the firm that I REALLY like that my buddy/roommate already accepted an offer for. It's insurance defense (which is exactly what I wanted to do), the perfect size, and has really good attorneys to learn from.

Super stoked, cross your fingers for me.

Good luck man, sounds like a great opportunity.

[chrisbru]

Thanks all. Here's hoping my references say nice things lol.

[whatsyourdeal]

Callback yesterday went REALLY well. I don't want to get too excited about it, but it sounds like they need to hire one more person and its between me and one other person. This is the firm that I REALLY like that my buddy/roommate already accepted an offer for. It's insurance defense (which is exactly what I wanted to do), the perfect size, and has really good attorneys to learn from.

Super stoked, cross your fingers for me.

good luck man!

Anyone else surprised by how barren symplicity has been? I have not seen this level of inactivity before.

Haven't heard anything from mass mailings. I haven't seen any openings/postings. So fucked.

been awfully silent in symplicity. hopefully, things start to pick up a little bit before the holidays.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else surprised by how barren symplicity has been? I have not seen this level of inactivity before.

Haven't heard anything from mass mailings. I haven't seen any openings/postings. So fucked.

It is dead dead at my t-14. Also, the TLS legal employment thread seems more dead than last year, particularly for 3Ls. Either people are doing better than expected so are not all the time here, or they have given up and accepted more willingly their fate.

Same here at my T-14. When one a post comes up though it's for a Vault firm wanting someone with an "existing offer from their summer employer."

[chrisbru]

Same here at my T-14. When one a post comes up though it's for a Vault firm wanting someone with an "existing offer from their summer employer."

Really? I feel like that's really weird.

[ninereal]

For patent prosecution, PTO experience is actually really desirable. It should pique someone's interest.

An old roommate of mine had something similar, except a shitty law school instead of a T25. Went to the PTO after graduation, worked there for maybe a year and a half, then bounced to a patent firm. It's doable.

[Anonymous User]

Same here at my T-14. When one a post comes up though it's for a Vault firm wanting someone with an "existing offer from their summer employer."

Really? I feel like that's really weird.

A couple have listed that in the criteria or said something like "transactional experience at a large law firm."

[chrisbru]

Same here at my T-14. When one a post comes up though it's for a Vault firm wanting someone with an "existing offer from their summer employer."

Really? I feel like that's really weird.

A couple have listed that in the criteria or said something like "transactional experience at a large law firm."

That seems like much more reasonable criteria.