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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Anyone hear back from Sidey DC yet?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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A bit off topic, but does anyone know why market-comp firms have different summer compensation numbers listed on NALP? E.g. in NYC: Weil @ $3,462 /wk, Cleary @ $3,654, and DPW @ $3,700. (Weil's in particular seems to be 180k divided by 52...)

Does this reflect actual differences in SA paychecks, or is it just an artifact of rounding / different ways of reporting?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:58 am
A bit off topic, but does anyone know why market-comp firms have different summer compensation numbers listed on NALP? E.g. in NYC: Weil @ $3,462 /wk, Cleary @ $3,654, and DPW @ $3,700. (Weil's in particular seems to be 180k divided by 52...)

Does this reflect actual differences in SA paychecks, or is it just an artifact of rounding / different ways of reporting?
Weil's seems like it must be out of date, but otherwise they're just rounding. I worked at a firm that said $3,700 and actual paycheck was $3,653 and however many cents per week

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:58 am
A bit off topic, but does anyone know why market-comp firms have different summer compensation numbers listed on NALP? E.g. in NYC: Weil @ $3,462 /wk, Cleary @ $3,654, and DPW @ $3,700. (Weil's in particular seems to be 180k divided by 52...)

Does this reflect actual differences in SA paychecks, or is it just an artifact of rounding / different ways of reporting?
The number listed on NALP is out of date for Weil. The offer letter says it's $3,654 per week.

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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The number listed on NALP is out of date for Weil. The offer letter says it's $3,654 per week.
Just checking, do other people's Weil letters hold offer open for 2 weeks from the start of OCI proper?

For other Weil ppl AND people with time-restricted offers from other firms -- are folks planning on asking for an extension preemptively, or waiting until there is a pressing need to extend beyond 2 weeks?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:46 pm
The number listed on NALP is out of date for Weil. The offer letter says it's $3,654 per week.
Just checking, do other people's Weil letters hold offer open for 2 weeks from the start of OCI proper?

For other Weil ppl AND people with time-restricted offers from other firms -- are folks planning on asking for an extension preemptively, or waiting until there is a pressing need to extend beyond 2 weeks?
Yes, my Weil offer is open for 14 days after the start of OCI.

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Has anybody heard back after a CB with GDC's NY office?
OP here, wanted to update and provide data point. Got offer same day in the afternoon after CB with Gibson Dunn NY!

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Does anyone know how long MoFo NY offers are open?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:52 pm
Has anybody heard back after a CB with GDC's NY office?
OP here, wanted to update and provide data point. Got offer same day in the afternoon after CB with Gibson Dunn NY!
Two of my classmates (HYS) had the same timeframe

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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For those of us that are just starting the pre-OCI process, should we hold off on submitting any applications over the holiday period (12/23–1/1)?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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For those of us that are just starting the pre-OCI process, should we hold off on submitting any applications over the holiday period (12/23–1/1)?
Fellow 2L so I won't pretend to have the answers, but isn't it a bit late for pre-OCI? Not sure there's much downside in you putting out feelers but my thought process is as follows...

First, your intuition that there's a holiday hiatus is probably correct. Then once we're in the new year, various OCIs will start kicking off — just did some quick googling and a whole bunch of T14 OCIs are smushed into early January. Even if your school's OCI is on the later side, I have to imagine that law firms (interviewing attorneys & recruiting staff) will soon have their hands full running those OCIs and CBs.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong, of course. The Zoomified nature of everything right now might make it easier for firms to slip a pre-OCI candidate into the mix, even as normal OCIs heat up in the coming weeks.

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:08 pm
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:34 pm
For those of us that are just starting the pre-OCI process, should we hold off on submitting any applications over the holiday period (12/23–1/1)?
Fellow 2L so I won't pretend to have the answers, but isn't it a bit late for pre-OCI? Not sure there's much downside in you putting out feelers but my thought process is as follows...

First, your intuition that there's a holiday hiatus is probably correct. Then once we're in the new year, various OCIs will start kicking off — just did some quick googling and a whole bunch of T14 OCIs are smushed into early January. Even if your school's OCI is on the later side, I have to imagine that law firms (interviewing attorneys & recruiting staff) will soon have their hands full running those OCIs and CBs.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong, of course. The Zoomified nature of everything right now might make it easier for firms to slip a pre-OCI candidate into the mix, even as normal OCIs heat up in the coming weeks.
Agree with this, I think once we're out of the holidays we're officially in "regular" OCI recruiting time (granted it'll be January). Some schools have already started theirs too.

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Anyone hear back from Sidey DC yet?
Do you know if Sisley NYC has been interviewing during pre-OCI?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Has anyone heard back from White & Case NY?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Has anyone heard back from White & Case NY?
No, not since the 'hang tight' email. Last week, they told my friend that she'd hear by the end of the year, so I think they might reach out this week.

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

Post by rosa_mundi » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:48 pm

PH NY is doing callbacks but the earliest date seems to be in the week of 11th...

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Do firms at OCI, particularly OCI callbacks, ask if you’re considering any pre-OCI offers? Or other offers coming out of OCI? Is there a correct way to handle that if it comes up?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:53 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:20 am
Anyone hear back from Sidey DC yet?
Do you know if Sisley NYC has been interviewing during pre-OCI?
yes they are def interviewing. a friend has already gotten an offer

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

Post by FutureisFintech » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:07 am

Just adding in my info. All firms listed are in NYC with the exception of Pillsbury (DC).

So far, I've applied to:
- Winston & Strawn (08/25)
- Pillsbury (08/25)
- Faegre Drinker (08/25)
- Paul Hastings (10/09)
- White & Case (video interview)(11/20)
- Latham & Watkins (11/17)
- Weil Gotshal (11/18)
- Kirkland Ellis (11/01)
- Mayer Brown (08/25)
- Davis Polk (11/07)
- Sidley Austin(10/08)
- Milbank (11/19)
- King & Spalding(10/30).

I've had screener interviews with:
- Winston & Strawn (Early September),
- Pillsbury (Early September),
- Faegre Drinker (Early September),
- Paul Hastings (Early November),
- White & Case (Early December),
- Latham & Watkins (Mid December),
- Weil Gotshal (Mid December) and
- King & Spalding (Mid December)

I've received callbacks from:
- Pillsbury(DC)(Late October),
- Paul Hastings(Scheduled Early January),
- King & Spalding (To Be Scheduled),
- Latham & Watkins (Scheduled Early January) and
- Weil Gotshal(Mid December).

No rejections as of yet.

I've received offers from:
- Weil Gotshal. Pillsbury decision is pending, most likely Waitlist.

I am at a DC law school that is not Georgetown.

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Rumor has it that some people got rejection emails from White & Case NY today, but has anyone heard good news?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

Post by kuku3334 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:59 pm

Anyone heard from MoFo LA post CB?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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FutureisFintech wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:07 am
Just adding in my info. All firms listed are in NYC with the exception of Pillsbury (DC).

So far, I've applied to:
- Winston & Strawn (08/25)
- Pillsbury (08/25)
- Faegre Drinker (08/25)
- Paul Hastings (10/09)
- White & Case (video interview)(11/20)
- Latham & Watkins (11/17)
- Weil Gotshal (11/18)
- Kirkland Ellis (11/01)
- Mayer Brown (08/25)
- Davis Polk (11/07)
- Sidley Austin(10/08)
- Milbank (11/19)
- King & Spalding(10/30).

I've had screener interviews with:
- Winston & Strawn (Early September),
- Pillsbury (Early September),
- Faegre Drinker (Early September),
- Paul Hastings (Early November),
- White & Case (Early December),
- Latham & Watkins (Mid December),
- Weil Gotshal (Mid December) and
- King & Spalding (Mid December)

I've received callbacks from:
- Pillsbury(DC)(Late October),
- Paul Hastings(Scheduled Early January),
- King & Spalding (To Be Scheduled),
- Latham & Watkins (Scheduled Early January) and
- Weil Gotshal(Mid December).

No rejections as of yet.

I've received offers from:
- Weil Gotshal. Pillsbury decision is pending, most likely Waitlist.

I am at a DC law school that is not Georgetown.
I thought pre oci directly goes to cb without screeners?

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:39 am

I hope firms respond more quickly after the OCI callbacks than they have during my pre-OCI callbacks. Waiting to hear is no fun.

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

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Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:39 am
I hope firms respond more quickly after the OCI callbacks than they have during my pre-OCI callbacks. Waiting to hear is no fun.
Totally. I gotta give credit to Weil for consistently giving offers in ~24 hours (not sure if their rejections take a bit longer).

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Re: Pre-OCI 2020

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:29 pm

rosa_mundi wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:48 pm
PH NY is doing callbacks but the earliest date seems to be in the week of 11th...
They've been doing CBs since at least October, just FYI.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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