University of Texas 2015 OCI Forum

[Anonymous User]

Depends on the firm but just by looking at some of the firms' 1L classes, you can tell looks definitely didn't hurt.

Can't hate though. "If you got it..."

[Anonymous User]

T2 Transfer
Top 15%
4CBS --> 3 offers (1 more potential offer pending from 4th callback)

[Anonymous User]

Slightly below median. 4 CBs - 2 rejs 1 pending 1 offer

But my situation is little different than most people's so..

How is your situation different?

i thought this "anonymous" feature is for people who don't like to expose their true identity.
if i could share w/o being exposed i would have done it already. so

Various reasons for "overachieving" your GPA at OCI include: 1) URM status, 2) prestigious undergrad, 3) previous legal experience (e.g. paralegal at big firm), 4) valuable undergrad degree (e.g. finance/business from McCombs), 5) law review (write on, obviously), 6) hard IP, 7) language ability, 8 ) exceptionally attractive, 9) moot/mock trial achievements, 10) charm-their-pants-off interviewing skills.

Sorry if this is all entirely obviously, but the point is you are more than your GPA/rank.

"exceptionally attractive" ha. I could see being unattractive a definite hindrance but does being really really ridiculously good looking actually help overcome grades?

Look at the 6 girls that worked at Andrews Kurth Houston and tell me there isn't at least a legitimate bias towards good looking girls, even if that's the only firm where it exists.

[Anonymous User]

Shit's definitely real. There is no question. People who get 1L SAs are 1) Texas natives with very good grades or experience, and 2) Hot girls.

[Anonymous User]

Shit's definitely real. There is no question. People who get 1L SAs are 1) Texas natives with very good grades or experience, and 2) Hot girls.

multiple, multiple examples of people who got 1L SAs and did not fit these categories. I'm sure this happens don't get me wrong, but I would say that for 80% of people it was good grades

[Anonymous User]

Well of course. To state it another way: If you were going to pick an identifiable group of people who had 1L SAs who were not Texas natives with good grades, the next most identifiable group -- by a considerable margin -- was hot girls.

[Anonymous User]

"exceptionally attractive" ha. I could see being unattractive a definite hindrance but does being really really ridiculously good looking actually help overcome grades?

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. For example, you can open a center for kids who can't read good.

[Anonymous User]

Well of course. To state it another way: If you were going to pick an identifiable group of people who had 1L SAs who were not Texas natives with good grades, the next most identifiable group -- by a considerable margin -- was hot girls.

While I was one of the ones who agreed that being attractive is definitely a boost, I don't think these groups are mutually exclusive. I mean, knowing most of who I'd guess you guys are referring to as "hot girls" that got 1LSAs, I can guarantee you that they also did well in class (either from personal knowledge or through the grapevine). Soft skills such as looks, URM, or work experience are exactly that; softs. They're nice to have if you're in the ballpark of qualifications, but they won't save you if you didn't do your homework. Plenty of hot girls, minorities, and former business people (who even had good grades) w/o 1LSAs from our class.

[Anonymous User]

Soft skills such as looks, URM, or work experience are exactly that; softs. They're nice to have if you're in the ballpark of qualifications, but they won't save you if you didn't do your homework.

That doesn't explain the hot girls who got multiple biglaw 1L SA offers **before first-semester grades even came out**. When "softs" are all the employers have to look at December of 1L year, the value of being hot and sweet jumps appreciably.

[Anonymous User]

Soft skills such as looks, URM, or work experience are exactly that; softs. They're nice to have if you're in the ballpark of qualifications, but they won't save you if you didn't do your homework.

That doesn't explain the hot girls who got multiple biglaw 1L SA offers **before first-semester grades even came out**. When "softs" are all the employers have to look at December of 1L year, the value of being hot and sweet jumps appreciably.

this still does not overturn the statement that being hot isn't exclusive to having good grades. since everybody is actually debating this issue, here is my 2 cents: you assumed that those girls had nothing else backing them but good looks before the grades came out

[Anonymous User]

Right - I don't think anyone is saying that looks and grades are mutually exclusive, or that the applicants "had nothing else going for them"; I just think that in the case of pre-grade offers based solely on what you're calling "softs", the incremental value of good looks and a great personality could be significant.

[Anonymous User]

Right - I don't think anyone is saying that looks and grades are mutually exclusive, or that the applicants "had nothing else going for them"; I just think that in the case of pre-grade offers based solely on what you're calling "softs", the incremental value of good looks and a great personality could be significant.

fair

[Anonymous User]

Any post-labor day offers?

[Anonymous User]

Any post-labor day offers?

not an offer but got a CB for next week from a firm that didn't give me an interview at OCI. Reapplied last week anyway for shits and got it call today + cb after

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know of any offers given out by Holland & Knight Dallas or Gardere Dallas?

I know Holland and Knight is still interviewing, I wonder if they won't make offers until they are done.

[SOS09270]

Does anyone know of any offers given out by Holland & Knight Dallas or Gardere Dallas?

I know Holland and Knight is still interviewing, I wonder if they won't make offers until they are done.

Can confirm that at least one Holland & Knight Dallas offer has been extended.

[Anonymous User]

Any post-labor day offers?

not an offer but got a CB for next week from a firm that didn't give me an interview at OCI. Reapplied last week anyway for shits and got it call today + cb after

good hustle. good luck!

[Anonymous User]

Any Willkie offers?

[Anonymous User]

So any other firms out there that have given callbacks? Any still outstanding? I just need to gauge how quickly I should start whoring myself out.

[Anonymous User]

Has anybody heard anything from Dentons?

[Anonymous User]

I just need to gauge how quickly I should start whoring myself out.

Yesterday.

[Anonymous User]

TK Dallas post-cb ding this week.

Any word on offers for:
Baker Botts - Dallas
Andrews Kurth - Dallas
Perkins Coie - Dallas
Latham - Houston

[Anonymous User]

Latham and Wilkie have made offers

[Anonymous User]

Latham and Wilkie have made offers

Any clue when Latham made offers? Any Latham dings yet?

[Anonymous User]

^No dings for Latham that I know of, but I know that at least 1 offer that was made about 8/28.