UChicago OCI 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

27/50. Hit 20 of first 21 (below), missed Katten (Chi) at 14. Picked up 4 Minneapolis firms lower down, Wachtell (29), Edelson (27), and Eimer Stahl (23).

1. Sidley Chi
2. Kirkland Chi
3. Jones Day Chi
4. Jenner Chi
5. Faegre Chi
6. Mayer Chi
7. Latham Chi
8. Schiff Chi
9. Skadden Chi
10. McDermott Chi
11. Foley Chi
12. Davis Polk NY
13. Cleary NY
14. Katten Chi (MISS)
15. Simpson Thacher NY
16. Sull Crom NY
17. Debevoise NY
18. Cravath NY
19. Dorsey MN
20. Barack Chi
21. Pircher Chi

[Anonymous User]

21/28

Rather pleased considering I had no idea wtf I was doing, but very grateful for the help from the 3L's/grads.

Here're my bids (red is miss, green is hit)

1. Kirkland & Ellis Chicago
2. Boies Non-NY/Chi
3. MoFo NY
4. Perkins Coie Non-NY/Chi
5. Paul Weiss NY
6. Debevoise NY
7. Davis Polk NY
8. Cleary NY
9. Weil NY
10. Baker Botts Non-NY/Chi
11. Skadden NY
12. Mayer Brown Chi
13. Sullivan & Cromwell NY
14. Greenberg Traurig Non-NY/Chi
15. Holland & Knight Non-NY/Chi
16. Norton Rose Fullbright Non-NY/Chi
17. Bryan Cave Chicago
18. BakerHostetler NY
19. Akerman Non-NY/Chi
20. Polsinelli Non-NY/Chi
21. Paul Hastings non-NY/Chi
22. Goodwin procter Non-NY/Chi
23. Dechert Non-NY/Chi
24. Ropes & Gray Non-NY/Chi
25. Simpson Thacher Non-NY/Chi
26. Cravath NY
27. Wachtell NY
28. Allen & overy NY (I don't remember doing this bid, actually...)

dood something is wrong with the system. i swear i didnt bid on some of these offices. paul woo says nothing is wrong

[Anonymous User]

... i got 1 nyc firm. i put 7 in my top 25

[Anonymous User]

27/50

Missed
MoFo NY at 8
Jones Day non-NY/Chi at 19

Got
Freshfields NY at 11
Cooley at 13
Hughes Hubbard NY at 15
Sheppard Mullin NY at 29

[Anonymous User]

Got 16 of my top 20 (30/50 overall), but no Chicago firms past 11.

Missed on (all Chicago) DLA Piper at 14, Katten at 15, and Morgan Lewis at 17

[Anonymous User]

Got 18/20 and 25 total

Missed Shearman at 8 and Sullcrom at 18. Disappointed about Shearman; don't even care about S&C.

Here's my bidlist for the future. Assume a hit unless I put a miss at the end.

1. Jones Day (Chi)
2. K&E (Chi)
3. Sidley (Chi)
4. Jenner (Chi)
5. Fried Frank (NYC)
6. Skadden (Chi)
7. Mayer Brown (Chi)
8. Shearman (NYC) MISS
9. McDermott (Chi)
10. Latham (Chi)
11. Foley (Chi)
12. Paul Weiss (NYC)
13. Davis Polk (NYC)
14. Cleary (NYC)
15. Simpson Thatcher (NYC)
16. Debevoise (NYC)
17. Cravath (NYC)
18. Sullcrom (NYC) MISS
19. Dechert (NYC)
20. Sheppard Mullin (NYC)
21. Barack Ferrazzano (Chi)
22. Pircher (Chi)

Other hits:

24. Edelson (Chi)
25. Curtis Mallet (NYC)
27. Irell (Newport Beach lol)
29. Gunderson (NYC)
31. Axin Veltrop (NYC)

[Anonymous User]

32/50. For future rising 2Ls, here's the full list:

1 GDC LA
2 Jones Day DC
3 MoFo SF
4 Boies Lit NYC
5 K&E NYC
6 Cleary DC
7 K&E DC
8 Cleary NY
9 Skadden NY
10 Latham LA (MISS)
11 DPW NY
12 PW NY
13 Covington DC (MISS)*
14 OMM LA
15 Sidley DC
16 Sullcrom NYC (MISS)*
17 Williams & Connolly
18 Skadden DC (MISS)
19 Grippo
20 STB NY
21 MTO LA
22 A&P DC (MISS)*
23 Cravath NY (MISS)
24 Wilmer DC (MISS)
25 Debevoise NY (MISS)
26 Irell LA
27 Steptoe DC
28 White & Case DC
29 Ivins DC
30 Wilson Sonsini
31 Sidley CA
32 Susman Houston
33 WLRK
34 Eimer (MISS)
35 PH LA (MISS)
36 Fenwick (MISS)
37 Perkins Seattle
38 Crowell DC (MISS)
39 Jenner DC (MISS)
40 Sheppard Mullin DC
41 Allen & Overy DC
42 Baker Botts DC
43 Axinn DC
44 BakerHostetler LA (MISS)
45 Cooley LA (MISS)
46 Freshfields DC (MISS)
47 Goodwin SF (MISS)
48 Harris Wiltshire DC
49 Stroock LA
50 OCC DC (MISS)

Question on the above: will it be remotely possible to pick up the starred firms in add/drop? Or just asking day of? They were three of my top choices and I only put them where they were because it seemed safe based on past years' threads, and I was going for maximizing total screeners.

Kinda regretting shooting for quantity over quality now, to be honest. I'd trade ten interviews with random 30-50 firms for the three starred firms.

Picked up ... SullCrom at 16.

Well, guess we know where it filled. Damn.

[WheninLaw]

It's possible. Generally, it depends on when they are interviewing. Firms later on have more add spots available as people doing well drop them.

[Neal Patrick Harris]

to pick up the starred firms in add/drop? Or just asking day of? They were three of my top choices and I only put them where they were because it seemed safe based on past years' threads, and I was going for maximizing total screeners.

Kinda regretting shooting for quantity over quality now, to be honest. I'd trade ten interviews with random 30-50 firms for the three starred firms.

Picked up ... SullCrom at 16.

Well, guess we know where it filled. Damn.

You should be able to pick them up. If not via add/drop then by asking them. Are they on different days? Generally they will sneak in one at the end of their interview schedule--so if they come the same day you may have to prioritize.

Grats on all the interviews, though.

[Anonymous User]

I have a question about firms we missed. I bid a secondary market too low to snag and interviews through bidding. But I'm going on a callback to the secondary market next week. Would it be smart to email the firms and tell them I missed out on bidding and ask whether I can interview next week? Not sure if I should mention the bidding part.

[Neal Patrick Harris]

I have a question about firms we missed. I bid a secondary market too low to snag and interviews through bidding. But I'm going on a callback to the secondary market next week. Would it be smart to email the firms and tell them I missed out on bidding and ask whether I can interview next week? Not sure if I should mention the bidding part.

Something like, "Unfortunately I wasn't able to get you through the lottery process for our on campus interviewing program. [statement about interest in the firm etc] I will be in town on [dates] if you'd like to speak with me then, but if not I'd love if you could sneak me into your schedule during our interviewing program on campus"


I'm not sure if what we have is actually a lottery, so it may make sense to email that to Woo so he can sign off on it or make necessary changes

[20141023]

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[Anonymous User]

lol I also missed S&C at 16.

Is there anyway to indirectly swap interviews lol

[WheninLaw]

lol I also missed S&C at 16.

I know we're not allowed to swap interviews but is there anyway to do it indirectly lol

Nope.

[20141023]

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[Anonymous User]

to pick up the starred firms in add/drop? Or just asking day of? They were three of my top choices and I only put them where they were because it seemed safe based on past years' threads, and I was going for maximizing total screeners.

Kinda regretting shooting for quantity over quality now, to be honest. I'd trade ten interviews with random 30-50 firms for the three starred firms.

Picked up ... SullCrom at 16.

Well, guess we know where it filled. Damn.

You should be able to pick them up. If not via add/drop then by asking them. Are they on different days? Generally they will sneak in one at the end of their interview schedule--so if they come the same day you may have to prioritize.

Grats on all the interviews, though.

Thanks for answering! It looks like one is on the 26th and the other on the 28th. But I have seven (!) on the 26th and five on the 28th; really backloaded interview schedule. Is adding another to that remotely doable?

Also reg's question.

[WheninLaw]

to pick up the starred firms in add/drop? Or just asking day of? They were three of my top choices and I only put them where they were because it seemed safe based on past years' threads, and I was going for maximizing total screeners.

Kinda regretting shooting for quantity over quality now, to be honest. I'd trade ten interviews with random 30-50 firms for the three starred firms.

Picked up ... SullCrom at 16.

Well, guess we know where it filled. Damn.

You should be able to pick them up. If not via add/drop then by asking them. Are they on different days? Generally they will sneak in one at the end of their interview schedule--so if they come the same day you may have to prioritize.

Grats on all the interviews, though.

how do we do this? Via email beforehand, or in person at some point?

OCS will talk to you about this. Basically, you will knock on the door during one of their scheduled breaks and ask if they have time (now or later) to interview you. They expect this, so it's not a huge deal. Some will have time, some will not.

re: too many screeners. This is really up to you. OCS is going to suggest not more than 5 in a day, which is generally good advice for the usual slightly-awkward law student. I know a few very personable people that did 8+, but they were exhausted after. I think you should be fine doing 6-8, just be prepared for a really long day.

[Emma.]

32/50. For future rising 2Ls, here's the full list:

Jesus. Please don't tell any of your interviewers that you are interviewing in LA, DC, Seattle and Texas.

[Anonymous User]

Another list for posterity (20/21):

1. Sidley, Chicago (84)
2. Mayer, Chicago (63)
3. Kirkland, Chicago (84)
4. Jenner, Chicago (63)
5. Latham, Chicago (61, shared)
6. Skadden, Chicago (84)
7. McDermott, Chicago (63)
8. Winston, Chicago (42)
9. Katten, Chicago (42)
10. Schiff, Chicago (84, shared)
11. Simpson Thatcher, NYC (61)
12. Cleary, NYC (42)
13. Davis Polk, NYC (42)
14. Sullivan and Cromwell, NYC (42)
15. Cravath, NYC (38)
16. Debevoise, NYC (63)
17. GDC, NY (21) (miss)
18. Barack Ferrazzano, Chicago (30)
19. Miller Shakman, Chicago (21)
20. Grippo, Chicago (21)
21. Eimer Stahl, Chicago (21)

[Anonymous User]

do most of these Chicago/NYC firms ask for writing sample at the callback stage? If so, can any 3Ls shed some light on how much they might matter? Does your preferred practice group have any impact?

[Neal Patrick Harris]

Another list for posterity (20/21):

1. Sidley, Chicago (84)
2. Mayer, Chicago (63)
3. Kirkland, Chicago (84)
4. Jenner, Chicago (63)
5. Latham, Chicago (61, shared)
6. Skadden, Chicago (84)
7. McDermott, Chicago (63)
8. Winston, Chicago (42)
9. Katten, Chicago (42)
10. Schiff, Chicago (84, shared)
11. Simpson Thatcher, NYC (61)
12. Cleary, NYC (42)
13. Davis Polk, NYC (42)
14. Sullivan and Cromwell, NYC (42)
15. Cravath, NYC (38)
16. Debevoise, NYC (63)
17. GDC, NY (21) (miss)
18. Barack Ferrazzano, Chicago (30)
19. Miller Shakman, Chicago (21)
20. Grippo, Chicago (21)
21. Eimer Stahl, Chicago (21)

Very solid bidding. Congrats.

[Neal Patrick Harris]

do most of these Chicago/NYC firms ask for writing sample at the callback stage? If so, can any 3Ls shed some light on how much they might matter? Does your preferred practice group have any impact?

Never asked at most firms. I feel like it had 0 impact at the firms who did ask (mine was bad)

[Anonymous User]

do most of these Chicago/NYC firms ask for writing sample at the callback stage? If so, can any 3Ls shed some light on how much they might matter? Does your preferred practice group have any impact?

Interviewed on the west coast. Didn't once get asked for a writing sample in 20 or so callbacks.

[Anonymous User]

Silly question: when there are two names listed in one timeslot on the interview page, that's like separate rooms or something, right? Not a dual interview or some crazy shit like that

[Anonymous User]

Silly question: when there are two names listed in one timeslot on the interview page, that's like separate rooms or something, right? Not a dual interview or some crazy shit like that

Haha yeah dude its definitely a dual interview - 2 on 1. I'd say 2/3 of my interviews were like this at OCI last year.

Also a heads up from people who missed firms - try reaching out to people you know there (alums, 3L's from who worked where, etc.) to see if they can help. I know that at the NYC v5 I was at this summer, the recruiting staff actively encouraged us to send them candidates. I bet if I asked them to try a sneak someone in for an interview, they'd try to do it.