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[Anonymous User]

3.6x looking for transactional, thoughts?

Bid Firm Slots
1 sidley austin llp (Chicago, IL) 80
2 KIRKLAND & ELLIS LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
3 mayer brown llp  80
4 schiff hardin llp (Chicago, IL) 80
5 SKADDEN ARPS SLATE MEAGHER & FLOM LLP (Chicago, IL) 60
6 WINSTON & STRAWN LLP (Chicago, IL) 60
7 MCDERMOTT WILL & EMERY LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
8 LATHAM & WATKINS LLP (Chicago, IL) 76
9 WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI  40
10 O'MELVENY & MYERS LLP  60
11 MILBANK TWEED HADLEY & MCCLOY LLP (New York, NY) 40
12 CLEARY GOTTLIEB STEEN & HAMILTON LLP (New York, NY) 40
13 JONES DAY (CA) 20
15 cooley llp  36
16 SIMPSON THACHER & bartlett llp (New York, NY) 40
17 SULLIVAN & CROMWELL LLP (New York, NY) 40
18 DAVIS POLK & WARDWELL (New York, NY) 40
19 GIBSON DUNN & CRUTCHER LLP  20
20 GREENBERG TRAURIG LLP (Chicago, IL) 20
21 KAYE SCHOLER LLP (New York, NY) 40
22 BRYAN CAVE LLP  40
23 FOLEY & LARDNER LLP  40
24 MORRISON & FOERSTER LLP  20
25 PERKINS COIE LLP  20
26 LINKLATERS  20
27 PAUL HASTINGS (Chicago, IL) 20

[Dr. Filth]

someone hold me

[Anonymous User]

3.6. so this is what i have come up with. which are the ones that i will maybe or likely miss out on in top 10 or 15. edit: secondary journal

Kirkland [chi] 80
Sidley [chi] 80
K&L [chi] 20
Jones Day [chi] 40
Latham [nyc] 19
Schiff Hardin [chi] 80
Katten [chi] 40
Jenner[chi] 60
Fried Frank [nyc] 40
Weil [nyc] 40
Simpson [nyc] 40
Milbank Tweed [nyc] 40
Wilkie Farr [nyc] 40
Cadwalader [nyc] 40
Kaye [nyc] 40
Thompson Coburn [chi] 20
Bryan Cave [chi] 20
Davis Polk [nyc] 40
Cleary [NYC] 40
Baker Botts [Hou] 40
Alston & Bird [ATL] 20
Locke Lord [Hou] 20
Vinson & Elkins [Hou] 20
Wilmer Hale [NYC] 60 combined across offices
Lathrop & Gage [KC] 20
O’Melveny [nyc] 60 combined
Gibson [nyc] 20
Dechert [nyc] 20
Winston Strawn [chi] 60
Greenberg [chi] 20
SullCrom [nyc] 40
Eimer Stahl [chi] 20
Shearman & Sterling [nyc] 20
Schulte Roth [nyc] 20
Quarles & Brady [chi] 20
Paul Weiss [nyc] 40
Polsinelli [chi] 9
White & Case [nyc] 20
Proskauer [nyc] 20

[lhanvt13]

No, those rules don't apply to transfers. As a transfer, you can (should) put your GPA and rank.

oh wait, really?? does OCI say it's allowed?

[Anonymous User]

3.1x. I am fine with any of the listed markets. I have reasonable ties to all of the markets that I have listed. For some of these firms I just picked the office where they hired the most sa's as long as I had ties.

1. Nicolaides
2. Dechert
3. Dykema
4. Edelson
5. Cahill
6. Proskauer (nyc)
7. Kaye Scholer
8. Vedder Price
9. Bryan Cave (stl)
10. Katten (chi)
11. Alston (atl)
12. Locke Lorde (hou)
13. Fried Frank
14. Foley (chi)
15. DLA (nyc)
16. Chapman
17. Dentons
18. Drinker
19. Weil
20. Shearman & Sterling
21. Faegre
22. Leydig
23. Linklaters
24. K&L (chi)
25. Polsinelli (denver)
26. Thompson Coburn (stl)

[Anonymous User]

Hi all: ~3.45 GPA, ~1 year W/E, all out on NY, would prefer transaction but open to both.
What do y'all think of my list? TYIA

1. Cahill Gordon (NY) – 20 3.44/3.14
2. Shearman Sterling (NY) – 20 3.51/3.29
3. Dechert (NY) – 20 3.33/3.28
4. Proskauer (NY) – 20 3.43/3.14
5. Linklaters (NY) – 20 3.51/3.13
6. White & Case (NY) – 20 3.54/3.32
7. Schulte Roth & Zabel (NY) – 20
8. Fried Frank (NY) – 40 3.44/3.10
9. Weil (NY) – 60 3.61/3.13
10. Milbank (NY) – 40 3.54/3.30
11. Cadwalader (NY) – 40 3.57/3.13
12. Kaye Scholer (NY) – 40 3.45/3.13
13. Willkie Farr (NY) – 40 3.65/3.13
14. Paul Hastings (NY) – 20 3.61/3.39
15. Allen & Overy (NY) – 20 3.46/3.31
16. Mayer Brown (NY) – 80 3.59/3.20
17. K&L Gates (CHI) – 20 3.46/3.19
18. McDermott Will Emery (CHI) – 80 3.67/3.12
19. Vedder Price (CHI) – 20 3.40/2.99
20. Katten Muchen (CHI) – 40 3.54/3.23
21. Freshfields (NY) – 20 3.56/3.37
22. Ropes & Gray (NY) – 60 3.77/3.51
23. Drinker Biddle (CHI) – 20 3.41/2.91
24. mcguirewoods (CHI) – 20 3.52/3.10
25. Vinson and Elkins (Dallas)
26. Bryan Cave (NY) – 40 3.46/2.99
27. Cooley (Palo Alto) – 36 3.51/3.39
28. DLA Piper (CHI) – 20 3.55/3.13
29. Wilson Sonsini (Palo Alto)
30. Faeger Baker Daniels (CHI) – 11 3.46/3.29
31. Gunderson (NY) – 20
32. Seward and Kissel (NY) – 20 3.61/3.54
33. Dentons (CHI) – 20 3.60/3.14
34. Pillsbury (NY) – 20 3.67/3.52
35. Dykema Gossett (CHI) – 11 3.33/3.24
36. Chapman and Cutler (CHI) – 20 3.55/3.10
37. Pircher Nichols & Meek (CHI) – 20 3.42/3.25
38. Edelson (CHI) – 20 3.37/3.24

[genericblandacct]

Hi all: ~3.45 GPA, ~1 year W/E, all out on NY, would prefer transaction but open to both.
What do y'all think of my list? TYIA

1. Cahill Gordon (NY) – 20 3.44/3.14
2. Shearman Sterling (NY) – 20 3.51/3.29
3. Dechert (NY) – 20 3.33/3.28
4. Proskauer (NY) – 20 3.43/3.14
5. Linklaters (NY) – 20 3.51/3.13
6. White & Case (NY) – 20 3.54/3.32
7. Schulte Roth & Zabel (NY) – 20
8. Fried Frank (NY) – 40 3.44/3.10
9. Weil (NY) – 60 3.61/3.13
10. Milbank (NY) – 40 3.54/3.30
11. Cadwalader (NY) – 40 3.57/3.13
12. Kaye Scholer (NY) – 40 3.45/3.13
13. Willkie Farr (NY) – 40 3.65/3.13
14. Paul Hastings (NY) – 20 3.61/3.39
15. Allen & Overy (NY) – 20 3.46/3.31
16. Mayer Brown (NY) – 80 3.59/3.20
17. K&L Gates (CHI) – 20 3.46/3.19
18. McDermott Will Emery (CHI) – 80 3.67/3.12
19. Vedder Price (CHI) – 20 3.40/2.99
20. Katten Muchen (CHI) – 40 3.54/3.23
21. Freshfields (NY) – 20 3.56/3.37
22. Ropes & Gray (NY) – 60 3.77/3.51
23. Drinker Biddle (CHI) – 20 3.41/2.91
24. McGuireWoods (CHI) – 20 3.52/3.10
25. Vinson and Elkins (Dallas)
26. Bryan Cave (NY) – 40 3.46/2.99
27. Cooley (Palo Alto) – 36 3.51/3.39
28. DLA Piper (CHI) – 20 3.55/3.13
29. Wilson Sonsini (Palo Alto)
30. Faeger Baker Daniels (CHI) – 11 3.46/3.29
31. Gunderson (NY) – 20
32. Seward and Kissel (NY) – 20 3.61/3.54
33. Dentons (CHI) – 20 3.60/3.14
34. Pillsbury (NY) – 20 3.67/3.52
35. Dykema Gossett (CHI) – 11 3.33/3.24
36. Chapman and Cutler (CHI) – 20 3.55/3.10
37. Pircher Nichols & Meek (CHI) – 20 3.42/3.25
38. Edelson (CHI) – 20 3.37/3.24

I like this bidlist. Perhaps move Paul Hastings above Weil but overall this looks strong.

[bdubs]

Hi all: ~3.45 GPA, ~1 year W/E, all out on NY, would prefer transaction but open to both.
What do y'all think of my list? TYIA

I realize you said NYC and transactional, but you put a lot of Chicago firms with low grade thresholds toward the bottom of your list. I think it's unlikely that you will get any of those interviews that low. Do you have connections to another "secondary" market that you can bid? I see a random Dallas and Palo Alto thrown in there.

[genericblandacct]

3.6. so this is what i have come up with. which are the ones that i will maybe or likely miss out on in top 10 or 15. edit: secondary journal

Kirkland [chi] 80
Sidley [chi] 80
K&L [chi] 20
Jones Day [chi] 40
Latham [nyc] 19
Schiff Hardin [chi] 80
Katten [chi] 40
Jenner[chi] 60
Fried Frank [nyc] 40
Weil [nyc] 40
Simpson [nyc] 40
Milbank Tweed [nyc] 40
Wilkie Farr [nyc] 40
Cadwalader [nyc] 40
Kaye [nyc] 40
Thompson Coburn [chi] 20
Bryan Cave [chi] 20
Davis Polk [nyc] 40
Cleary [NYC] 40
Baker Botts [Hou] 40
Alston & Bird [ATL] 20
Locke Lord [Hou] 20
Vinson & Elkins [Hou] 20
Wilmer Hale [NYC] 60 combined across offices
Lathrop & Gage [KC] 20
O’Melveny [nyc] 60 combined
Gibson [nyc] 20
Dechert [nyc] 20
Winston Strawn [chi] 60
Greenberg [chi] 20
SullCrom [nyc] 40
Eimer Stahl [chi] 20
Shearman & Sterling [nyc] 20
Schulte Roth [nyc] 20
Quarles & Brady [chi] 20
Paul Weiss [nyc] 40
Polsinelli [chi] 9
White & Case [nyc] 20
Proskauer [nyc] 20

Slight chance you miss out on Jenner, also I would put Simpson ahead of Weil due to # of spots.

[genericblandacct]

3.1x. I am fine with any of the listed markets. I have reasonable ties to all of the markets that I have listed. For some of these firms I just picked the office where they hired the most sa's as long as I had ties.

1. Nicolaides
2. Dechert
3. Dykema
4. Edelson
5. Cahill
6. Proskauer (nyc)
7. Kaye Scholer
8. Vedder Price
9. Bryan Cave (stl)
10. Katten (chi)
11. Alston (atl)
12. Locke Lorde (hou)
13. Fried Frank
14. Foley (chi)
15. DLA (nyc)
16. Chapman
17. Dentons
18. Drinker
19. Weil
20. Shearman & Sterling
21. Faegre
22. Leydig
23. Linklaters
24. K&L (chi)
25. Polsinelli (denver)
26. Thompson Coburn (stl)

Don't know a ton about some of these firms but for starters I would drop Weil lower, move up Drinker and Fried Frank, and bid your full 40 firms. With your GPA, definitely best to see if you can snag anything between 25-40 so even if it is unlikely, you should get something down there. Vedder only has 20 spots and I think that would be a good target for you, so perhaps consider putting that above Dykema, which is more of a reach firm. I would also consider throwing Pircher on this list. PM me if you want to talk this out more, particularly about ties to secondary markets.

[genericblandacct]

3.6x looking for transactional, thoughts?

Bid Firm Slots
1 SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
2 KIRKLAND & ELLIS LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
3 MAYER BROWN LLP  80
4 SCHIFF HARDIN LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
5 SKADDEN ARPS SLATE MEAGHER & FLOM LLP (Chicago, IL) 60
6 WINSTON & STRAWN LLP (Chicago, IL) 60
7 MCDERMOTT WILL & EMERY LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
8 LATHAM & WATKINS LLP (Chicago, IL) 76
9 WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI  40
10 O'MELVENY & MYERS LLP  60
11 MILBANK TWEED HADLEY & MCCLOY LLP (New York, NY) 40
12 CLEARY GOTTLIEB STEEN & HAMILTON LLP (New York, NY) 40
13 JONES DAY (CA) 20
15 COOLEY LLP  36
16 SIMPSON THACHER & BARTLETT LLP (New York, NY) 40
17 SULLIVAN & CROMWELL LLP (New York, NY) 40
18 DAVIS POLK & WARDWELL (New York, NY) 40
19 GIBSON DUNN & CRUTCHER LLP  20
20 GREENBERG TRAURIG LLP (Chicago, IL) 20
21 KAYE SCHOLER LLP (New York, NY) 40
22 BRYAN CAVE LLP  40
23 FOLEY & LARDNER LLP  40
24 MORRISON & FOERSTER LLP  20
25 PERKINS COIE LLP  20
26 LINKLATERS  20
27 PAUL HASTINGS (Chicago, IL) 20

This is a good bid list. Nodding woodsman gif. I might move Simpson up, and either move Gibson up or remove Gibson because I have a feeling Gibson is gone by 20 (20 spots and all non-Chi markets included, including the sought-after Cali).

[Charger]

No, those rules don't apply to transfers. As a transfer, you can (should) put your GPA and rank.

oh wait, really?? does OCI say it's allowed?

Yes. Allowed for transfers. But next year if you do 3L OCI, you'll have to omit your NU GPA (but can still leave on your 1L GPA). Confirm with OCS if you're worried.

[LRGhost]

Welp, it's done, I think.

[Anonymous User]

Transfer here. CS/EE IP; have 25 interviews spread throughout SF(9)/Chi(4)/NY(3)/DC(9).

# Firm Office Slots SA Size
1 Sidley Chicago 80 41
2 Mayer Brown Chicago 80 25
3 Kirkland Ellis Chicago 80 53
4 Jenner Chicago 60 14
5 Kirkland Ellis NYC 20 31
6 Schiff Chicago 80 8
7 Gibson Dunn NYC 20 37
8 Latham Chicago 76 10
9 Proskauer NYC 20 41
10 Cadwalader NYC 40 29
11 Milbank NYC 40 36
12 Winston Strawn Chicago 60 31
13 Greenberg Traurig Chicago 20 5
14 Kaye Scholer NYC 40 ?
15 Cleary NYC 40 79
16 Covington DC 20 49
17 Fried Frank NYC 40 37
18 Paul Hastings DC 20 6
19 Jones Day DC 20 35
20 Wiley Rein DC 20 16
21 Pillsbury DC 20 9
22 Sidley DC 20 12
23 Gibson DC 20 26
24 Morrison Fo DC 20 7
25 Wilmerhale DC 20 33
26 DLA Piper DC 20 ?
27 Brinks Gilson Chi-B 10 10
28 Leydig Chi-B 10 5
29 Banner Witcoff Chi-B 20 4
30 Cooley VA (10) 36
31 Linklaters London
32 Freshfields London
33 Holland Knight McLean/NY
34 Wilkie NYC
35 Vinson NYC
36 Schulte NYC
37 Pillsbury NYC
38 Bryan Cave NYC
39 Seward NYC
40 Alston Bird NYC
HP Resume Drop
Goldman Sachs Resume Drop

Thanks everyone! Let me know if you need anymore info

[Cobretti]

Transfer here. CS/EE IP; have 25 interviews spread throughout SF(9)/Chi(4)/NY(3)/DC(9).

# Firm Office Slots SA Size
1 Sidley Chicago 80 41
2 Mayer Brown Chicago 80 25
3 Kirkland Ellis Chicago 80 53
4 Jenner Chicago 60 14
5 Kirkland Ellis NYC 20 31
6 Schiff Chicago 80 8
7 Gibson Dunn NYC 20 37
8 Latham Chicago 76 10
9 Proskauer NYC 20 41
10 Cadwalader NYC 40 29
11 Milbank NYC 40 36
12 Winston Strawn Chicago 60 31
13 Greenberg Traurig Chicago 20 5
14 Kaye Scholer NYC 40 ?
15 Cleary NYC 40 79
16 Covington DC 20 49
17 Fried Frank NYC 40 37
18 Paul Hastings DC 20 6
19 Jones Day DC 20 35
20 Wiley Rein DC 20 16
21 Pillsbury DC 20 9
22 Sidley DC 20 12
23 Gibson DC 20 26
24 Morrison Fo DC 20 7
25 Wilmerhale DC 20 33
26 DLA Piper DC 20 ?
27 Brinks Gilson Chi-B 10 10
28 Leydig Chi-B 10 5
29 Banner Witcoff Chi-B 20 4
30 Cooley VA (10) 36
31 Linklaters London
32 Freshfields London
33 Holland Knight McLean/NY
34 Wilkie NYC
35 Vinson NYC
36 Schulte NYC
37 Pillsbury NYC
38 Bryan Cave NYC
39 Seward NYC
40 Alston Bird NYC
HP Resume Drop
Goldman Sachs Resume Drop

Thanks everyone! Let me know if you need anymore info

Gibson's offices are crosslisted, you can't bid NYC and DC separately. For that same reason they are likely to go very high (like where you have the NYC bid listed). MOFO is the same way, that's a shared office bid with only 20 slots, and they are really popular in norcal so there's no way they make it that low. Obviously lots of low bids are just filling up empty space on our lists, and if that's what MOFO is for you then no biggy.

[Anonymous User]

Transfer here. CS/EE IP; have 25 interviews spread throughout SF(9)/Chi(4)/NY(3)/DC(9).

# Firm Office Slots SA Size
1 Sidley Chicago 80 41
2 Mayer Brown Chicago 80 25
3 Kirkland Ellis Chicago 80 53
4 Jenner Chicago 60 14
5 Kirkland Ellis NYC 20 31
6 Schiff Chicago 80 8
7 Gibson Dunn NYC 20 37
8 Latham Chicago 76 10
9 Proskauer NYC 20 41
10 Cadwalader NYC 40 29
11 Milbank NYC 40 36
12 Winston Strawn Chicago 60 31
13 Greenberg Traurig Chicago 20 5
14 Kaye Scholer NYC 40 ?
15 Cleary NYC 40 79
16 Covington DC 20 49
17 Fried Frank NYC 40 37
18 Paul Hastings DC 20 6
19 Jones Day DC 20 35
20 Wiley Rein DC 20 16
21 Pillsbury DC 20 9
22 Sidley DC 20 12
23 Gibson DC 20 26
24 Morrison Fo DC 20 7
25 Wilmerhale DC 20 33
26 DLA Piper DC 20 ?
27 Brinks Gilson Chi-B 10 10
28 Leydig Chi-B 10 5
29 Banner Witcoff Chi-B 20 4
30 Cooley VA (10) 36
31 Linklaters London
32 Freshfields London
33 Holland Knight McLean/NY
34 Wilkie NYC
35 Vinson NYC
36 Schulte NYC
37 Pillsbury NYC
38 Bryan Cave NYC
39 Seward NYC
40 Alston Bird NYC
HP Resume Drop
Goldman Sachs Resume Drop

Thanks everyone! Let me know if you need anymore info

Gibson's offices are crosslisted, you can't bid NYC and DC separately. For that same reason they are likely to go very high (like where you have the NYC bid listed). MOFO is the same way, that's a shared office bid with only 20 slots, and they are really popular in norcal so there's no way they make it that low. Obviously lots of low bids are just filling up empty space on our lists, and if that's what MOFO is for you then no biggy.

Definitely Not lhanvt13

haha
Oh yeah I forgot to delete those firms. I was going to consolidate them up but both DC offices were just "let's just throw them on there" kinda deal. Any idea on high/low for any firms? I'm also thinking of dropping jones day DC, Greenberg chi (replace with NYC Wilmer?), and sidley DC

[Cobretti]

Oh yeah I forgot to delete those firms. I was going to consolidate them up but both DC offices were just "let's just throw them on there" kinda deal. Any idea on high/low for any firms? I'm also thinking of dropping jones day DC, Greenberg chi (replace with NYC Wilmer?), and sidley DC

jones day DC and Sidley DC make sense to be bid lower, I think you have a good shot getting them there. The jones day listing is among other secondary markets that are not likely to be pursued by many people, and the Sidley one is DC only.

[GoCats56]

Hey Alums, how long does it usually take to get our initial schedules?

[PBateman1]

Hey Alums, how long does it usually take to get our initial schedules?

from the looks of last years thread, it was on aug 2

[M458]

Hey Alums, how long does it usually take to get our initial schedules?

from the looks of last years thread, it was on aug 2

Schedule says noon on Friday, and Aug 2 was Friday of the week bids were due last year, so it matches up.

[Anonymous User]

Hey Alums, how long does it usually take to get our initial schedules?

from the looks of last years thread, it was on aug 2

Schedule says noon on Friday, and Aug 2 was Friday of the week bids were due last year, so it matches up.

[Anonymous User]

Any 3L/Alum willing to give my mass-mailing cover letter a once-over?

[Anonymous User]

So Weil just cancelled all of their OTIP interviews for Miami. Is this par for the course? Seems like a not-so-stellar move on their part since students are paying to fly down there and there are only 6 employers signed up in the first place. Should we just send them our resume again with a "Sorry we missed you note" or something, or just assume they already saw the resume and were not interested since they cancelled?

[LRGhost]

I would email and ask about the possibility of a Skype screener. For them to cancel so soon is highly unprofessional but if I recall correctly, their Miami office had some problems?

[Anonymous User]

I would email and ask about the possibility of a Skype screener. For them to cancel so soon is highly unprofessional but if I recall correctly, their Miami office had some problems?

Wasn't an applicant myself, but the reason provided for the cancellation was due to a "conflict." If I were an interviewee I would be furious, it's disrespectful and makes the entire program look like a joke.