Milbank/Davis Polk/Cravath Scale: NYC to 215-415k Forum

[Anonymous User]

If that anon goes to Chicago, he should realize that half of the benefit of being a Chicagoan is the ability to act superior to those anti-intellectuals back east, not associate yourself with them by proudly proclaiming your HYP ug (blech, go to a real undergrad like St. John's).

uChicago is more pompous than any of HYP. The essential essence of Chicago, both the university and the city, is to be more insufferable than people on the East Coast while baselessly claiming to be "more down to earth"

This is just a weird comment. UofC has very little in common with the city. Chicago's hometown school is Northwestern.

yes, the school in Evanston has more to do with Chicago than the school in... Chicago. Blatant norTTThwesTTTern trolling -1/10

...yes? Because sports. Nobody is fans of the Chicago Maroons (I had to google their team name). Also the vibe -- the personality associated with UofC is not the personality of the city.

>northwestern
>sports school

troll detected lmfao. Do you even live in Chicago? I would wager that UofI or Wisconsin (or hell, Michigan) have more fans than Northwestern. Also "personality of the city" lol the personality of Chicago is hardly Northwestern's consulting pipeline; if anything, UIC or IIT is more in line with what Chicago is.

[Anonymous User]

wtf is even going on here

[Anonymous User]

Nobody in Chicago gives two Giordanos shits about Northwestern. Their stadium is mostly visiting fans whenever Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio State are playing there. Otherwise the stadium is just mostly empty.

Nobody in Chicago cares about UChicago either, however. To the extent the city cares about colleges (it’s mostly a pro town), it’s based on its status as the primary home of the Big Ten alumni diaspora.

If you want to go to law school at a place where people will care about your association with the university due to sports, then go be a Michigan football or Duke basketball fan.

[Anonymous User]

Nobody in Chicago gives two Giordanos shits about Northwestern. Their stadium is mostly visiting fans whenever Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio State are playing there.

Nobody in Chicago cares about UChicago either, however. To the extent the city cares about colleges (it’s mostly a pro town), it’s based on its status as the primary home of the Big Ten alumni diaspora.

It's a big 10 town. The culture of Chicago is sports, drinking, buying a nice condo, buying a nice car, and maybe eventually buying a big house and/or lake house. It's about as bourgeois and basic as a big city can get. Yet, despite most of its residents having never lived in any other city, let alone New York City, they will claim that they are far more "down to earth" and "friendly" than "New Yorkers" -- this all coming from folks who refuse to talk to anyone they don't already know from their Big 10 school, work, or high school.

uChicago is analogous IMO because it's similarly detached from the larger world and reality in general. Thinking it's somehow better than Harvard based on citations or clerkships something, when pretty much nobody would agree with that.

[Sackboy]

wtf is even going on here

[Anonymous User]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

[Anonymous User]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

[Anonymous User]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

[Anonymous User]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

Alleyways is a real QOL improvement that you have to experience to understand. Double level streets in the loop is underrated too.

But lol nah the food is not better. And there are plenty of NY firms that are competitive with Sidley.

[Sackboy]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

Alleyways is a real QOL improvement that you have to experience to understand. Double level streets in the loop is underrated too.

But lol nah the food is not better. And there are plenty of NY firms that are competitive with Sidley.

LMAO, Sidley being the top Chicago firm? Haha, I think the poster was talking about Mayer Brown.

[Anonymous User]

Nobody in Chicago gives two Giordanos shits about Northwestern. Their stadium is mostly visiting fans whenever Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio State are playing there.

Nobody in Chicago cares about UChicago either, however. To the extent the city cares about colleges (it’s mostly a pro town), it’s based on its status as the primary home of the Big Ten alumni diaspora.

It's a big 10 town. The culture of Chicago is sports, drinking, buying a nice condo, buying a nice car, and maybe eventually buying a big house and/or lake house. It's about as bourgeois and basic as a big city can get. Yet, despite most of its residents having never lived in any other city, let alone New York City, they will claim that they are far more "down to earth" and "friendly" than "New Yorkers" -- this all coming from folks who refuse to talk to anyone they don't already know from their Big 10 school, work, or high school.

uChicago is analogous IMO because it's similarly detached from the larger world and reality in general. Thinking it's somehow better than Harvard based on citations or clerkships something, when pretty much nobody would agree with that.

As a university of course Harvard is better. As a law school, Chicago smokes HLS which is just a cash cow degree mill.

[Anonymous User]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

I like how conveniently HLS students always find something truly prestigious to bundle themselves with to win debates: Harvard University, YS, NYC... as if they could represent any of these places. Whether Chicago is a better city than NYC has no bearing on Chicago being a better law school because HLS has nothing to do with NYC, just as it has no business being grouped with YS and Harvard University. Don't fall into their trap.

[Anonymous User]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

Alleyways is a real QOL improvement that you have to experience to understand. Double level streets in the loop is underrated too.

But lol nah the food is not better. And there are plenty of NY firms that are competitive with Sidley.

LMAO, Sidley being the top Chicago firm? Haha, I think the poster was talking about Mayer Brown.

They're clearly talking about Winston Strawn.

[VentureMBA]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

One thing I have to give people from Chicago - they couldn't care less about how they look. Some of the ugliest and worst dressed people on the face of the earth and no one in the city bats an eye.

[Moneytrees]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

Alleyways is a real QOL improvement that you have to experience to understand. Double level streets in the loop is underrated too.

But lol nah the food is not better. And there are plenty of NY firms that are competitive with Sidley.

LMAO, Sidley being the top Chicago firm? Haha, I think the poster was talking about Mayer Brown.

They're clearly talking about Winston Strawn.

Given its incredibly skyline and the fact that Jenner and Block is headquartered there, Chicago is clearly a better choice than NYC.

[Anonymous User]

Where will this thread go next? Maybe California v Texas?

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

Alleyways is a real QOL improvement that you have to experience to understand. Double level streets in the loop is underrated too.

But lol nah the food is not better. And there are plenty of NY firms that are competitive with Sidley.

LMAO, Sidley being the top Chicago firm? Haha, I think the poster was talking about Mayer Brown.

They're clearly talking about Winston Strawn.

Given its incredibly skyline and the fact that Jenner and Block is headquartered there, Chicago is clearly a better choice than NYC.

I think you guys mean McDermott

[Anonymous User]

No fun without NYC, the greatest and most prestigious city on the planet!

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

Alleyways is a real QOL improvement that you have to experience to understand. Double level streets in the loop is underrated too.

But lol nah the food is not better. And there are plenty of NY firms that are competitive with Sidley.

LMAO, Sidley being the top Chicago firm? Haha, I think the poster was talking about Mayer Brown.

They're clearly talking about Winston Strawn.

Given its incredibly skyline and the fact that Jenner and Block is headquartered there, Chicago is clearly a better choice than NYC.

I think you guys mean McDermott

Certainly they mean Katten

[Anonymous User]

But Chicago is cleaner, has alleyways (lol @ piling up trash like the 3rd world), better food and pizza, has the lakefront, much better architecture / skyline, and more laid back and reasonable people. We also have the HQ of the country's top biglaw firm. NYC can't hold a candle IMO.

Alleyways is a real QOL improvement that you have to experience to understand. Double level streets in the loop is underrated too.

But lol nah the food is not better. And there are plenty of NY firms that are competitive with Sidley.

LMAO, Sidley being the top Chicago firm? Haha, I think the poster was talking about Mayer Brown.

They're clearly talking about Winston Strawn.

Given its incredibly skyline and the fact that Jenner and Block is headquartered there, Chicago is clearly a better choice than NYC.

I think you guys mean McDermott

Certainly they mean Katten

If by Katten you actually mean Schiff Hardin.

[Anonymous User]

…is the foregoing what passes for witty banter in Chicago…?

Glad I live in NYC!

[Anonymous User]

…is the foregoing what passes for witty banter in Chicago…?

Glad I live in NYC!

How are the bagels and black and white cookies

[Anonymous User]

LOL why do we even need legacy status to Harvard College? HLS has more prestige than all the other Harvard schools combined. You see Harvard undergrads regret not going to HLS. How often do you see HLS students regret not going to Harvard undergrad? We go on and become CEOs, entrepreneurs, senators, supreme courts justices, and presidents. Every corner of the world has been and continues to be shaped by HLS students. Students from other law schools (or schools in general) work for the political/business empires HLS students build and own.

The vast majority of the HLS student body is state school liberal arts majors who did well on a standardized test that allows infinite tries. These students had no chance of going to an ivy for undergrad, let alone Harvard. Had no softs to be accepted at YS. That's your HLS student body.

Only 2 presidents had HLS degrees, and the one before Obama took office in 1877. So no HLS don't go on and become presidents.

Before you even attempt to compare HLS to Harvard College, just ask yourself how many HLS students would have been able to study law at Harvard if it was an undergrad major offered by Harvard College instead of a grad degree from HLS. HLS can offer a good legal education at a hefty price. Chances are you will land a biglaw gig and impress your hometown friends and relatives. But to actually think going to HLS has equivalent prestige to YLS or a top undergrad is just delusional.

[Anonymous User]

LOL why do we even need legacy status to Harvard College? HLS has more prestige than all the other Harvard schools combined. You see Harvard undergrads regret not going to HLS. How often do you see HLS students regret not going to Harvard undergrad? We go on and become CEOs, entrepreneurs, senators, supreme courts justices, and presidents. Every corner of the world has been and continues to be shaped by HLS students. Students from other law schools (or schools in general) work for the political/business empires HLS students build and own.

The vast majority of the HLS student body is state school liberal arts majors who did well on a standardized test that allows infinite tries. These students had no chance of going to an ivy for undergrad, let alone Harvard. Had no softs to be accepted at YS. That's your HLS student body.

Only 2 presidents had HLS degrees, and the one before Obama took office in 1877. So no HLS don't go on and become presidents.

Before you even attempt to compare HLS to Harvard College, just ask yourself how many HLS students would have been able to study law at Harvard if it was an undergrad major offered by Harvard College instead of a grad degree from HLS. HLS can offer a good legal education at a hefty price. Chances are you will land a biglaw gig and impress your hometown friends and relatives. But to actually think going to HLS has equivalent prestige to YLS or a top undergrad is just delusional.

OMG shut up nobody cares

[Anonymous User]

LOL why do we even need legacy status to Harvard College? HLS has more prestige than all the other Harvard schools combined. You see Harvard undergrads regret not going to HLS. How often do you see HLS students regret not going to Harvard undergrad? We go on and become CEOs, entrepreneurs, senators, supreme courts justices, and presidents. Every corner of the world has been and continues to be shaped by HLS students. Students from other law schools (or schools in general) work for the political/business empires HLS students build and own.

The vast majority of the HLS student body is state school liberal arts majors who did well on a standardized test that allows infinite tries. These students had no chance of going to an ivy for undergrad, let alone Harvard. Had no softs to be accepted at YS. That's your HLS student body.

Only 2 presidents had HLS degrees, and the one before Obama took office in 1877. So no HLS don't go on and become presidents.

Before you even attempt to compare HLS to Harvard College, just ask yourself how many HLS students would have been able to study law at Harvard if it was an undergrad major offered by Harvard College instead of a grad degree from HLS. HLS can offer a good legal education at a hefty price. Chances are you will land a biglaw gig and impress your hometown friends and relatives. But to actually think going to HLS has equivalent prestige to YLS or a top undergrad is just delusional.

But on the other hand, UCHICAGO LAW = YLS = harvard/stanford UG. Everyone here will agree with that, so hope you don't lose sleep over it

[Anonymous User]

LOL why do we even need legacy status to Harvard College? HLS has more prestige than all the other Harvard schools combined. You see Harvard undergrads regret not going to HLS. How often do you see HLS students regret not going to Harvard undergrad? We go on and become CEOs, entrepreneurs, senators, supreme courts justices, and presidents. Every corner of the world has been and continues to be shaped by HLS students. Students from other law schools (or schools in general) work for the political/business empires HLS students build and own.

The vast majority of the HLS student body is state school liberal arts majors who did well on a standardized test that allows infinite tries. These students had no chance of going to an ivy for undergrad, let alone Harvard. Had no softs to be accepted at YS. That's your HLS student body.

Only 2 presidents had HLS degrees, and the one before Obama took office in 1877. So no HLS don't go on and become presidents.

Before you even attempt to compare HLS to Harvard College, just ask yourself how many HLS students would have been able to study law at Harvard if it was an undergrad major offered by Harvard College instead of a grad degree from HLS. HLS can offer a good legal education at a hefty price. Chances are you will land a biglaw gig and impress your hometown friends and relatives. But to actually think going to HLS has equivalent prestige to YLS or a top undergrad is just delusional.

What is even going on here lol. I preferred the my city is better stuff.

The pool of presidents is so tiny that it makes your points meaningless. Is Syracuse law equal to Harvard now? Did you know that more HBS grads have become president than all other business schools put together? Etc.

[Anonymous User]

https://abovethelaw.com/2022/04/money-m ... aises-yet/

Wait hold on, is the ATL reporting accurate that SullCrom has not matched Cravath? Cravath announced 2/28; what's the delay about?