Kirkland Megathread Forum

[Anonymous User]

If any Chicago RX associates (or partners) are reading this.

Please consider additional protocols for the NY trip SAs will take in about a week. The covid numbers are spiking everywhere but especially in NYC. 90% of NY is at high covid risk. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/cdc-ny-high-covid-risk

A lot of the summers, myself included, have either not had covid yet or have family members that we stay with that are immunocompromised.

Is anything going to be done to mitigate the chances of getting sick? In addition to the potential of not being asymptomatic, it would be unfortunate to have to miss days this summer due to being sick. Is there any way to ask everyone to wear masks during the event?

None of the SAs want to bring this up so I'm doing it anonymously. Thank you.

Is the trip optional?

[Anonymous User]

If any Chicago RX associates (or partners) are reading this.

Please consider additional protocols for the NY trip SAs will take in about a week. The covid numbers are spiking everywhere but especially in NYC. 90% of NY is at high covid risk. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/cdc-ny-high-covid-risk

A lot of the summers, myself included, have either not had covid yet or have family members that we stay with that are immunocompromised.

Is anything going to be done to mitigate the chances of getting sick? In addition to the potential of not being asymptomatic, it would be unfortunate to have to miss days this summer due to being sick. Is there any way to ask everyone to wear masks during the event?

None of the SAs want to bring this up so I'm doing it anonymously. Thank you.

Is the trip optional?

I don't think so. I mean, it may technically be optional in the sense that if concerned individuals spoke to HR, I'm sure they'd be fine if they stayed back. But if you're a RX associate, it's pretty much supposed to be the highlight of the summer and it would be frowned upon to skip it.

I think we're the only SAs in the summer groups that have any travel scheduled. I hope everyone will at least wear masks on the airplane but it's not required. I would also hate to be infected while in NY, come back, and then spread it to other summers within the firm. I am not sure if there really is an alternative here. Everyone is booked and ready to fly out on 6-6 or 6-7. It would be nice if the RX partners encouraged everyone to mask up while we're there. Just seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

[Anonymous User]

If any Chicago RX associates (or partners) are reading this.

Please consider additional protocols for the NY trip SAs will take in about a week. The covid numbers are spiking everywhere but especially in NYC. 90% of NY is at high covid risk. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/cdc-ny-high-covid-risk

A lot of the summers, myself included, have either not had covid yet or have family members that we stay with that are immunocompromised.

Is anything going to be done to mitigate the chances of getting sick? In addition to the potential of not being asymptomatic, it would be unfortunate to have to miss days this summer due to being sick. Is there any way to ask everyone to wear masks during the event?

None of the SAs want to bring this up so I'm doing it anonymously. Thank you.

Is the trip optional?

Not optional.

A lot of summers I've spoken to are concerned about this because they're living at home with the elderly. So many of the KE summers in general are Chicago burb natives that go to school out of state but while working at KE this summer, they're staying with family to save on rent.

[Anonymous User]

Per the NYT this evening:
Cook County case rate = 45 per 100,000
New York County case rate = 53 per 100,000

if the concern is specifically being on an airplane, have no idea if the perception that airplanes are particularly prone to COVID spread is borne out by empirical research. but CHI vs NYC seems fairly irrelevant

[Anonymous User]

Per the NYT this evening:
Cook County case rate = 45 per 100,000
New York County case rate = 53 per 100,000

if the concern is specifically being on an airplane, have no idea if the perception that airplanes are particularly prone to COVID spread is borne out by empirical research. but CHI vs NYC seems fairly irrelevant

I think there is empirical data suggesting getting covid on an airplane is much more likely.

Being in pods and working in close proximity to one another after having traveled on a plane is going to increase the odds. But imo with all the events we have scheduled in Chicago this summer, the risk is more or less the same. The firm should just advocate for masks during large gatherings. I have a few friends that are summers at firms where they've already had outbreaks. It's a matter of time really. There are 90 of us!

[Anonymous User]

Per the NYT this evening:
Cook County case rate = 45 per 100,000
New York County case rate = 53 per 100,000

if the concern is specifically being on an airplane, have no idea if the perception that airplanes are particularly prone to COVID spread is borne out by empirical research. but CHI vs NYC seems fairly irrelevant

I think there is empirical data suggesting getting covid on an airplane is much more likely.

Being in pods and working in close proximity to one another after having traveled on a plane is going to increase the odds. But imo with all the events we have scheduled in Chicago this summer, the risk is more or less the same. The firm should just advocate for masks during large gatherings. I have a few friends that are summers at firms where they've already had outbreaks. It's a matter of time really. There are 90 of us!

Don't work in RX or Chicago, but having just attended KITA, am deeply skeptical anyone will be at all receptive to this. That said, if YOU choose to wear a mask, everyone would be fine with it - so maybe do that? And test when you're back. I think the decision to have an in-person summer and do KITA etc etc just required some ostrich behavior. It's unfortunate.

[Anonymous User]

Per the NYT this evening:
Cook County case rate = 45 per 100,000
New York County case rate = 53 per 100,000

if the concern is specifically being on an airplane, have no idea if the perception that airplanes are particularly prone to COVID spread is borne out by empirical research. but CHI vs NYC seems fairly irrelevant

I think there is empirical data suggesting getting covid on an airplane is much more likely.

Being in pods and working in close proximity to one another after having traveled on a plane is going to increase the odds. But imo with all the events we have scheduled in Chicago this summer, the risk is more or less the same. The firm should just advocate for masks during large gatherings. I have a few friends that are summers at firms where they've already had outbreaks. It's a matter of time really. There are 90 of us!

I think the research is the exact opposite, that covid is not spread easily on airplanes.

[Anonymous User]

If any Chicago RX associates (or partners) are reading this.

Please consider additional protocols for the NY trip SAs will take in about a week. The covid numbers are spiking everywhere but especially in NYC. 90% of NY is at high covid risk. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/cdc-ny-high-covid-risk

A lot of the summers, myself included, have either not had covid yet or have family members that we stay with that are immunocompromised.

Is anything going to be done to mitigate the chances of getting sick? In addition to the potential of not being asymptomatic, it would be unfortunate to have to miss days this summer due to being sick. Is there any way to ask everyone to wear masks during the event?

None of the SAs want to bring this up so I'm doing it anonymously. Thank you.

Is the trip optional?

Not optional.

A lot of summers I've spoken to are concerned about this because they're living at home with the elderly. So many of the KE summers in general are Chicago burb natives that go to school out of state but while working at KE this summer, they're staying with family to save on rent.

A lot of summers are living with the elderly? Assuming the average age of a summer associate is ~25 years old and they're living with their parents, I bet very few of those parents are 65 and older (the definition of elderly and what is considered high risk for covid). I am not saying that the trip is advisable or that there shouldn't be precautions, but if your arguments include hyperbole, management is less likely to take them seriously.

[Helicopter]

Came here to read some Kirkland hot goss and all I am reading is the one person who should be wearing a N95 mask trying to get everyone to mask up.

[Anonymous User]

If any Chicago RX associates (or partners) are reading this.

Please consider additional protocols for the NY trip SAs will take in about a week. The covid numbers are spiking everywhere but especially in NYC. 90% of NY is at high covid risk. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/cdc-ny-high-covid-risk

A lot of the summers, myself included, have either not had covid yet or have family members that we stay with that are immunocompromised.

Is anything going to be done to mitigate the chances of getting sick? In addition to the potential of not being asymptomatic, it would be unfortunate to have to miss days this summer due to being sick. Is there any way to ask everyone to wear masks during the event?

None of the SAs want to bring this up so I'm doing it anonymously. Thank you.

Is the trip optional?

Not optional.

A lot of summers I've spoken to are concerned about this because they're living at home with the elderly. So many of the KE summers in general are Chicago burb natives that go to school out of state but while working at KE this summer, they're staying with family to save on rent.

A lot of summers are living with the elderly? Assuming the average age of a summer associate is ~25 years old and they're living with their parents, I bet very few of those parents are 65 and older (the definition of elderly and what is considered high risk for covid). I am not saying that the trip is advisable or that there shouldn't be precautions, but if your arguments include hyperbole, management is less likely to take them seriously.

Sorry to use the term "elderly". Several summers are living with individuals that are considerably older and generally have more pre-existing conditions. I didn't poll how many of them are living with grandparents. I'll concede to most 25 year olds not having parents that are 65+. I do think my point still stands but take your point about accurate framing. In any case, I've learned that there's nothing I should expect to be done about it in terms of management encouraging others to wear masks. Oh well.

[Anonymous User]

If any Chicago RX associates (or partners) are reading this.

Please consider additional protocols for the NY trip SAs will take in about a week. The covid numbers are spiking everywhere but especially in NYC. 90% of NY is at high covid risk. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/cdc-ny-high-covid-risk

A lot of the summers, myself included, have either not had covid yet or have family members that we stay with that are immunocompromised.

Is anything going to be done to mitigate the chances of getting sick? In addition to the potential of not being asymptomatic, it would be unfortunate to have to miss days this summer due to being sick. Is there any way to ask everyone to wear masks during the event?

None of the SAs want to bring this up so I'm doing it anonymously. Thank you.

Is the trip optional?

I don't think so. I mean, it may technically be optional in the sense that if concerned individuals spoke to HR, I'm sure they'd be fine if they stayed back. But if you're a RX associate, it's pretty much supposed to be the highlight of the summer and it would be frowned upon to skip it.

I think we're the only SAs in the summer groups that have any travel scheduled. I hope everyone will at least wear masks on the airplane but it's not required. I would also hate to be infected while in NY, come back, and then spread it to other summers within the firm. I am not sure if there really is an alternative here. Everyone is booked and ready to fly out on 6-6 or 6-7. It would be nice if the RX partners encouraged everyone to mask up while we're there. Just seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

Grow up, COVID isnt going anywhere.

[Anonymous User]

Grow up, COVID isnt going anywhere.

A person that would like it suggested that others wear masks needs to grow up because covid is always going to be in our lives?

[Anonymous User]

Came here to read some Kirkland hot goss and all I am reading is the one person who should be wearing a N95 mask trying to get everyone to mask up.

Haha welcome to Kirkland - it’s not nearly as exciting around here as TLS would lead you to believe (for good or for bad).

[Anonymous User]

Came here to read some Kirkland hot goss and all I am reading is the one person who should be wearing a N95 mask trying to get everyone to mask up.

Haha welcome to Kirkland - it’s not nearly as exciting around here as TLS would lead you to believe (for good or for bad).

Let’s get this thread back on track …

A) talk about bonus multiplier

B) talk about sign on bonuses

C) talk about share partner possibilities

D) talk about handling the KE sweatshop

[thisismytlsuername]

Came here to read some Kirkland hot goss and all I am reading is the one person who should be wearing a N95 mask trying to get everyone to mask up.

Haha welcome to Kirkland - it’s not nearly as exciting around here as TLS would lead you to believe (for good or for bad).

Let’s get this thread back on track …

A) talk about bonus multiplier

B) talk about sign on bonuses

C) talk about share partner possibilities

D) talk about handling the KE sweatshop

A) 1.05x for 3000+
B) Gone
C) Zero
D) Good luck

[Anonymous User]

Looking for insight on Chicago's cap markets group. What's their reputation within the firm? What are they leaving out in their "join this group" presentations? What's uniquely positive / uniquely negative about the practice and group? Ty

[Anonymous User]

For those interested in KE Restructuring, some notes from the summer program zoom:

Recruiting stated explicitly that a good number of slots will be filled by Pre-OCI interviewers.

Lower-tier schools are in-play for getting a slot, but you need to be in top quarter of the class.

What is with NDLS and restructuring? Out of 6 or 7 total summers, 5 are joining restructuring.

[Anonymous User]

Will KE have enough hours to keep associates busy next bonus year (Sept ‘22 to Aug ‘23)? Seems like most at least had some strong months this bonus year but concerned for next year

Thanks for speculating

[Anonymous User]

For those interested in KE Restructuring, some notes from the summer program zoom:

Recruiting stated explicitly that a good number of slots will be filled by Pre-OCI interviewers.

Lower-tier schools are in-play for getting a slot, but you need to be in top quarter of the class.

What is with NDLS and restructuring? Out of 6 or 7 total summers, 5 are joining restructuring.

It's probably not that NDLS is good at restructuring but that NDLS students are not competitive enough for KE lit. I doubt that have any, or maybe 1/2 at the most, lit summers across the whole firm.

[Anonymous User]

For those interested in KE Restructuring, some notes from the summer program zoom:

Recruiting stated explicitly that a good number of slots will be filled by Pre-OCI interviewers.

Lower-tier schools are in-play for getting a slot, but you need to be in top quarter of the class.

What is with NDLS and restructuring? Out of 6 or 7 total summers, 5 are joining restructuring.

It's probably not that NDLS is good at restructuring but that NDLS students are not competitive enough for KE lit. I doubt that have any, or maybe 1/2 at the most, lit summers across the whole firm.

Nah, historically the OCI interviewers for NDLS were a restructuring sp and a corp sp, so they would funnel on that basis.

[chip]

For those interested in KE Restructuring, some notes from the summer program zoom:

Recruiting stated explicitly that a good number of slots will be filled by Pre-OCI interviewers.

Lower-tier schools are in-play for getting a slot, but you need to be in top quarter of the class.

What is with NDLS and restructuring? Out of 6 or 7 total summers, 5 are joining restructuring.

It's probably not that NDLS is good at restructuring but that NDLS students are not competitive enough for KE lit. I doubt that have any, or maybe 1/2 at the most, lit summers across the whole firm.

Nah, historically the OCI interviewers for NDLS were a restructuring sp and a corp sp, so they would funnel on that basis.

Are the 7 summers all in Chicago or are there others elsewhere

[Anonymous User]

For those interested in KE Restructuring, some notes from the summer program zoom:

Recruiting stated explicitly that a good number of slots will be filled by Pre-OCI interviewers.

Lower-tier schools are in-play for getting a slot, but you need to be in top quarter of the class.

What is with NDLS and restructuring? Out of 6 or 7 total summers, 5 are joining restructuring.

It's probably not that NDLS is good at restructuring but that NDLS students are not competitive enough for KE lit. I doubt that have any, or maybe 1/2 at the most, lit summers across the whole firm.

Nah, historically the OCI interviewers for NDLS were a restructuring sp and a corp sp, so they would funnel on that basis.

Yeah I think this tracks. The SP that usually interviews at NDLS has a lot of pull in the recruiting process and cares a lot about hiring from ND. He's willing to dip closer to median for hires that are a good fit too. I know a lot of ND students with 3.35-3.45 GPAs that have landed KE Rx by delivering a good interview. All of the KE Lit ND students that I know of were the classic 3.8-3.9 Dean's list types.

[Anonymous User]

Came here to read some Kirkland hot goss and all I am reading is the one person who should be wearing a N95 mask trying to get everyone to mask up.

Haha welcome to Kirkland - it’s not nearly as exciting around here as TLS would lead you to believe (for good or for bad).

Let’s get this thread back on track …

A) talk about bonus multiplier

B) talk about sign on bonuses

C) talk about share partner possibilities

D) talk about handling the KE sweatshop

A) 1.05x for 3000+
B) Gone
C) Zero
D) Good luck

KE NSP here - are signing bonuses actually gone?! I know a couple people who started recently and I just assumed they still got a 6 figure sign on - am I crazy? Also, people keep talking about how slow it is. Compared to last year maybe, but most people seem to be billing 150-200 a month, hopefully this is a new normal that is more sustainable.

[Anonymous User]

I know that summers don’t have a real understanding of the firm and that everyone goes out of their way to be kind to us. But, so far I don’t understand what people mean when they say “the Kirkland type” in a derogatory way. Everyone has been GREAT.

[Anonymous User]

Looking for insight on Chicago's cap markets group. What's their reputation within the firm? What are they leaving out in their "join this group" presentations? What's uniquely positive / uniquely negative about the practice and group? Ty

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