2014 University of Virginia OGI Thread Forum

[lookingin]

I see. Thanks!

[Anonymous User]

Reading the OCI interview thread, said that not having your GPA on a resume gives him a weird feeling.


I didn't put my GPA on my resume, I don't think any of the model resumes provides by career services did either.

Did you guys out your GPA on the resume? I think every firm requested a transcript, so I think this is probably a irrelevant question.

[Anonymous User]

Reading the OCI interview thread, said that not having your GPA on a resume gives him a weird feeling.


I didn't put my GPA on my resume, I don't think any of the model resumes provides by career services did either.

Did you guys out your GPA on the resume? I think every firm requested a transcript, so I think this is probably a irrelevant question.

I vaguely remember career services saying something along the lines that unless your GPA is ridiculously high (read: 3.7+ undergrad or law school), you shouldn't list it. This was during 1L recruiting though, so I don't know if that changed for OGI. I didn't have my GPA on any resumes for my 1L job hunt or my 2L stuff (job fairs, mass mailing, and OGI) and so far I have been getting good responses from firms (I'm at a 3.3x). I did submit my transcript for everything though. There's no sense hiding grades because they will just ask for it.

[Anonymous User]

Reading the OCI interview thread, said that not having your GPA on a resume gives him a weird feeling.


I didn't put my GPA on my resume, I don't think any of the model resumes provides by career services did either.

Did you guys out your GPA on the resume? I think every firm requested a transcript, so I think this is probably a irrelevant question.

I asked KD this directly and he told me that it varies from case to case. He told me that I should put mine on even though I'm only top 1/3, but that it depends on background, practice area, etc.

[Anonymous User]

asked KD this directly and he told me that it varies from case to case. He told me that I should put mine on even though I'm only top 1/3, but that it depends on background, practice area, etc.

How did you know you were top third? He told you?
FWIW I assume I'm within the top third and I put my GPA on my resume as well. K-JD. Did alright with OTIP pre-selects so I'm guessing it is fine.

EDIT: Actually I think putting my GPA on my resume hurt me on one OTIP application that didn't request a copy of the transcript. I improved from first to second semester and my overall GPA probably didn't meet the firm's mark.

[Anonymous User]

Reading the OCI interview thread, said that not having your GPA on a resume gives him a weird feeling.


I didn't put my GPA on my resume, I don't think any of the model resumes provides by career services did either.

Did you guys out your GPA on the resume? I think every firm requested a transcript, so I think this is probably a irrelevant question.

Original anon here:

Ok, so it's not going to make me look weird if I didn't. I consider my GPA "good" but it's not VLR good so I guess it's acceptable for me to leave it off, especially when I sent transcripts.

[Anonymous User]

asked KD this directly and he told me that it varies from case to case. He told me that I should put mine on even though I'm only top 1/3, but that it depends on background, practice area, etc.

How did you know you were top third? He told you?
FWIW I assume I'm within the top third and I put my GPA on my resume as well. K-JD. Did alright with OTIP pre-selects so I'm guessing it is fine.

EDIT: Actually I think putting my GPA on my resume hurt me on one OTIP application that didn't request a copy of the transcript. I improved from first to second semester and my overall GPA probably didn't meet the firm's mark.

No, he didn't tell me and I wouldn't tell an interviewer that I'm top third, but the generally accepted cutoff, so far as I can tell, is 3.42ish. I don't know what the effect of the new grading curve is, though, since 1Ls have 2 electives.

I also improved pretty dramatically second semester and KD told me to list it like "GPA: 3.4x (spring:3.6x)." the reason was because my spring grades broke another one of the firms' arbitrary GPA lines, so if a firm really wanted to hire me based on my background, they could justify it using my spring grades.

[Anonymous User]

No, he didn't tell me and I wouldn't tell an interviewer that I'm top third, but the generally accepted cutoff, so far as I can tell, is 3.42ish. I don't know what the effect of the new grading curve is, though, since 1Ls have 2 electives.

I also improved pretty dramatically second semester and KD told me to list it like "GPA: 3.4x (spring:3.6x)." the reason was because my spring grades broke another one of the firms' arbitrary GPA lines, so if a firm really wanted to hire me based on my background, they could justify it using my spring grades.

I might steal that "GPA: 3.4x (spring:3.6x)" part for mine. I'm at a 3.3x, but I had a pretty good second semester as well. "GPA: 3.3x (Spring 3.5x)" sounds a lot better than "GPA: 3.3x".

[daleearnhardt123]

The whole spring GPA thing looks so awful in my opinion, but whatever, if KD says to do it I guess you listen.

[Anonymous User]

The whole spring GPA thing looks so awful in my opinion, but whatever, if KD says to do it I guess you listen.

Yeah, I was really surprised when he suggested it. I'd seen it on TLS and thought it looked dumb, but KD is the man and I want a job.

I should mention that I have a tech background, though. Sometimes firms really are looking to justify hiring someone with particular experience.

[daleearnhardt123]

The whole spring GPA thing looks so awful in my opinion, but whatever, if KD says to do it I guess you listen.

Yeah, I was really surprised when he suggested it. I'd seen it on TLS and thought it looked dumb, but KD is the man and I want a job.

I should mention that I have a tech background, though. Sometimes firms really are looking to justify hiring someone with particular experience.

Ya but firms don't need a blatant and transparent attempt at covering up that you're beneath their cut if they wanna hire you. If they REALLY wanna hire you they just go below their cut.

[Anonymous User]

The whole spring GPA thing looks so awful in my opinion, but whatever, if KD says to do it I guess you listen.

Yeah, I was really surprised when he suggested it. I'd seen it on TLS and thought it looked dumb, but KD is the man and I want a job.

I should mention that I have a tech background, though. Sometimes firms really are looking to justify hiring someone with particular experience.

Ya but firms don't need a blatant and transparent attempt at covering up that you're beneath their cut if they wanna hire you. If they REALLY wanna hire you they just go below their cut.

What's done is done. I'll keep my fingers crossed and see how OGI goes.

[Yardbird]

I am nowhere near in contention for them, but Wachtell is officially in UVA's Resume Collect. Interesting. OGI in three years (calling it)

[BruceWayne]

I am nowhere near in contention for them, but Wachtell is officially in UVA's Resume Collect. Interesting. OGI in three years (calling it)

It's been a long time; but I believe some of the UVA posters from the boom days (06 07) used to mention that Watchell did resume collect back then. I think they just pulled back after the crash but they have a history of taking resumes from us from time to time.

[Yardbird]

How soon after the bid deadline should we mass mail firms we didn't bid on?

Bumping this question up. I'm assuming a lot of firms would still just respond with a "bid on us at OGI" or something at this point even though we can't. When exactly would be a good time: after pre-selects come out (July 26)? after the lottery (August 3)? after OGI is finished (August 22)?

[Yardbird]

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[lookingin]

note: In the past two years, TLS users noted schedules were out at 2:15pm in 2013 and 11:11pm in 2012 the day before the scheduled release date and before any CSO emails

That's exciting. Do you know where we'd go to see them? (I'm guess in Simplicity around the calendar section?) Didn't know if you'd figured this out too by reading the older threads.

[Yardbird]

note: In the past two years, TLS users noted schedules were out at 2:15pm in 2013 and 11:11pm in 2012 the day before the scheduled release date and before any CSO emails

That's exciting. Do you know where we'd go to see them? (I'm guess in Simplicity around the calendar section?) Didn't know if you'd figured this out too by reading the older threads.

The users in old threads logged into symplicity and saw the "OGI" dropdown was back under the OCI tab. They then were able to see preselects/alternates in a column on the bidding screen. I don't know if interview times were actually scheduled as of then (I'm guessing MAYBE there, as interview schedules likely change as things progress)

[lookingin]

Cool, thanks for posting that.

[LadyMary]

Also, we haven't gotten an email yet, but Law Reg has been open since yesterday (with updated available courses). Don't let the hype of preselects result in forgetting to sign up for fall classes!

[Yardbird]

Also, we haven't gotten an email yet, but Law Reg has been open since yesterday (with updated available courses). Don't let the hype of preselects result in forgetting to sign up for fall classes!

They emailed out the reminder on Wednesday, I doubt they'll remind us again.

[Anonymous User]

for people who are set on DC and bid almost exclusively on DC, how many preselects and alternates should be good enough to land something?

[Yardbird]

Great to hear some rooms were added. Better odds for everyone! Sounds like things are on track so we might see it up later tonight or the early early morning (unless they have it timed out for 10:00am this year)

[Anonymous User]

slightly below median here, hoping for at least 2 preselects

[Anonymous User]

slightly below median here, hoping for at least 2 preselects

Jeez, I really hope it isn't that bleak for us...