Lawyers tell you how to get no offered. Forum

[Old Gregg]

I'm not offended, I just want you to get your blood pressure checked.

Yeah, that's what's funny about this. You think my blood pressure is high from all of this.

You're projecting more than a powerpoint presentation.

[chup]

You're projecting more than a powerpoint presentation.

[DELG]

This discussion is raising mine. And lead to probably my most cost-effective Costco trips in years.

[NYSprague]

Trivia: changes used to be marked by comparing drafts and using a red or black pen to underline and mark the differences. Word processing departments staffed proofreaders just to do this comparison.

[FKASunny]

You're projecting more than a powerpoint presentation.

[84651846190]

i hate everyone in here

[DELG]

i hate everyone in here

[FKASunny]

i hate everyone in here

Are you an IAFG alt?

[withoutapaddle]

What's in-house?

[84651846190]

i hate everyone in here

except you. i want to form babby p firm w/ u

[A. Nony Mouse]

What's in-house?

You need to stop posting in this forum as a 0L.

[Anonymous User]

Re: The dichotomy about obsessing over details vs. not making a big deal about stuff that no one expects you to know, people who claim there is a difference and they know what it is are deluding themselves and trying to assign meaning where there is none.

There is no way to know in advance whether Workshare is something you are supposed to know vs. the color of appellee briefs covers in some random jurisdiction or whether it's okay to leave an event early because you are meeting with a partner in the morning. There is no way to use common sense to figure out what to do in half the situations that present themselves over the summer. The solution is not to beat yourself up for being aspie or to anticipate every possible eventuality, because neither of those are possible. You can't change your personality in the two weeks between finals and SA and whatever you think of and prepare for, something else will come up.

If there is one skill you have when you begin working at a firm full time it ought to be the ability to transcend the shit going on all around you rather than getting caught up and being immersed in it. If you have a summer associate job, the odds are good that you can pick up what needs to be done and you can do it well. Trust yourself on that. And in the meantime, make sure that you can remain centered within yourself, and maintain a healthy identity independent of the outcome of your summer associate-ship. As a summer associate and a junior associate, you will inevitably screw up. In all screw ups, trivial or career threatening, your outcome will be much better if you are the stable, consistent, personable guy than if you are the neurotic, desperate aspie.

[NotMyRealName09]

Re: The dichotomy about obsessing over details vs. not making a big deal about stuff that no one expects you to know, people who claim there is a difference and they know what it is are deluding themselves and trying to assign meaning where there is none.

There is no way to know in advance whether Workshare is something you are supposed to know vs. the color of appellee briefs covers in some random jurisdiction or whether it's okay to leave an event early because you are meeting with a partner in the morning. There is no way to use common sense to figure out what to do in half the situations that present themselves over the summer. The solution is not to beat yourself up for being aspie or to anticipate every possible eventuality, because neither of those are possible. You can't change your personality in the two weeks between finals and SA and whatever you think of and prepare for, something else will come up.

If there is one skill you have when you begin working at a firm full time it ought to be the ability to transcend the shit going on all around you rather than getting caught up and being immersed in it. If you have a summer associate job, the odds are good that you can pick up what needs to be done and you can do it well. Trust yourself on that. And in the meantime, make sure that you can remain centered within yourself, and maintain a healthy identity independent of the outcome of your summer associate-ship. As a summer associate and a junior associate, you will inevitably screw up. In all screw ups, trivial or career threatening, your outcome will be much better if you are the stable, consistent, personable guy than if you are the neurotic, desperate aspie.

Wait, so is it redlining or blacklining? Sometimes track changes are blue instead of red, sometimes both, does that matter?

[NotMyRealName09]

Spend time on TLS after graduating from law school

user has been outed for anon abuse. (Sorry, no ban at this time.)

I've always wanted to do that

[Anonymous User]

Re: The dichotomy about obsessing over details vs. not making a big deal about stuff that no one expects you to know, people who claim there is a difference and they know what it is are deluding themselves and trying to assign meaning where there is none.

There is no way to know in advance whether Workshare is something you are supposed to know vs. the color of appellee briefs covers in some random jurisdiction or whether it's okay to leave an event early because you are meeting with a partner in the morning. There is no way to use common sense to figure out what to do in half the situations that present themselves over the summer. The solution is not to beat yourself up for being aspie or to anticipate every possible eventuality, because neither of those are possible. You can't change your personality in the two weeks between finals and SA and whatever you think of and prepare for, something else will come up.

If there is one skill you have when you begin working at a firm full time it ought to be the ability to transcend the shit going on all around you rather than getting caught up and being immersed in it. If you have a summer associate job, the odds are good that you can pick up what needs to be done and you can do it well. Trust yourself on that. And in the meantime, make sure that you can remain centered within yourself, and maintain a healthy identity independent of the outcome of your summer associate-ship. As a summer associate and a junior associate, you will inevitably screw up. In all screw ups, trivial or career threatening, your outcome will be much better if you are the stable, consistent, personable guy than if you are the neurotic, desperate aspie.

Wait, so is it redlining or blacklining? Sometimes track changes are blue instead of red, sometimes both, does that matter?

interchangeable terms. It's not track changes, but a whole other program. It's simple to use. Don't worry or think about this until someone at your firm shows you how to use it. Until then, just don't worry about this.

[NotMyRealName09]

Hey yeah I think that subtle dig at the inanity of the conversation was perhaps too subtle. I was joking and have practiced for years. You were just trying to be nice and helpful though, so thanks anyways.

[MarkRenton]

Hey yeah I think that subtle dig at the inanity of the conversation was perhaps too subtle. I was joking and have practiced for years. You were just trying to be nice and helpful though, so thanks anyways.

Hah, I would have figured it out had I been willing to read the above tl;dr. But it was tl;dr.

[MinEMorris]

Re: The dichotomy about obsessing over details vs. not making a big deal about stuff that no one expects you to know, people who claim there is a difference and they know what it is are deluding themselves and trying to assign meaning where there is none.

There is no way to know in advance whether Workshare is something you are supposed to know vs. the color of appellee briefs covers in some random jurisdiction or whether it's okay to leave an event early because you are meeting with a partner in the morning. There is no way to use common sense to figure out what to do in half the situations that present themselves over the summer. The solution is not to beat yourself up for being aspie or to anticipate every possible eventuality, because neither of those are possible. You can't change your personality in the two weeks between finals and SA and whatever you think of and prepare for, something else will come up.

If there is one skill you have when you begin working at a firm full time it ought to be the ability to transcend the shit going on all around you rather than getting caught up and being immersed in it. If you have a summer associate job, the odds are good that you can pick up what needs to be done and you can do it well. Trust yourself on that. And in the meantime, make sure that you can remain centered within yourself, and maintain a healthy identity independent of the outcome of your summer associate-ship. As a summer associate and a junior associate, you will inevitably screw up. In all screw ups, trivial or career threatening, your outcome will be much better if you are the stable, consistent, personable guy than if you are the neurotic, desperate aspie.

Great post.

[Gofigure]

Re: The dichotomy about obsessing over details vs. not making a big deal about stuff that no one expects you to know, people who claim there is a difference and they know what it is are deluding themselves and trying to assign meaning where there is none.

There is no way to know in advance whether Workshare is something you are supposed to know vs. the color of appellee briefs covers in some random jurisdiction or whether it's okay to leave an event early because you are meeting with a partner in the morning. There is no way to use common sense to figure out what to do in half the situations that present themselves over the summer. The solution is not to beat yourself up for being aspie or to anticipate every possible eventuality, because neither of those are possible. You can't change your personality in the two weeks between finals and SA and whatever you think of and prepare for, something else will come up.

If there is one skill you have when you begin working at a firm full time it ought to be the ability to transcend the shit going on all around you rather than getting caught up and being immersed in it. If you have a summer associate job, the odds are good that you can pick up what needs to be done and you can do it well. Trust yourself on that. And in the meantime, make sure that you can remain centered within yourself, and maintain a healthy identity independent of the outcome of your summer associate-ship. As a summer associate and a junior associate, you will inevitably screw up. In all screw ups, trivial or career threatening, your outcome will be much better if you are the stable, consistent, personable guy than if you are the neurotic, desperate aspie.

I don't know why this had to be anon but thank you. I should read this to myself in the mirror every morning.

[Learn_Live_Hope]

Biglaw associate here.

I know at least one summer associate who was no-offered because she was too hot. This is not a joke. Our hiring partner at the time was female, and I heard from someone on the hiring committee that she was annoyed at the disparity between this particular associate's performance reviews from male partners as opposed to female partners. (The reviews from males were all stellar; the ones from females were mixed.) She thought the males were trying to get her hired simply because she was hot. Result: ding.

I'm not surprised by that at all. Witnessed too many similar instances myself. The general consensus for any interview is to dress down if you are interviewing with a female.

I thought I was quoting an anonymous post, and not posting as one. Must have done something wrong.