UChicago OCI 2013 Forum

[RodneyRuxin]

When you bid multiple offices of a firm and get an interview for one of the offices, can the firm see the other office(s) you bid?

Depends if the firm has listed "no multiple interviews"(latham) or chose the two offices to be treated as two separate firms(Kirkland).

If it's the former, then the interviewer will see. If it's the latter, then I think it depends on the firm and whether or not they're communicating b/w offices.

If a firm is listed as "no multiple interviews" (e.g. Latham) and you get a screener for Office B but not Office A in the lottery, can you still be considered for Office A if it's your first choice?

It's my understanding that successfully getting one bid with that firm will get you the interview. At the interview, the firm will likely know which bid caused the interview to be scheduled (some have different interview dates/times), but it won't know where you bid the other office. My conclusion from that info was that, for example, if I bid Latham Chi #1 and Latham NY #50 I could interview for both offices at the same time without issue.

Not sure if this is correct, but this is what I based my bidlist off of.

ETA: With bidding closed it's too late to worry about now. Sorry for the late response. Best of luck, everyone.

[Anonymous User]

17/40 bids. Holy shit I am boned.

[Anonymous User]

24

Missed Katten at 10 and Chapman at 20.

[Anonymous User]

Posting this for Future 0Ls:

1) Paul Weiss NY
2) Sidley Austin Chi
3) Kirkland Chi
4) Kirkland NY
5) Sidley NY
6) Skadden NY
7) Weil NY
8 ) Milbank NY
9) Latham Chi (NY bid 49)
10) Skadden Chi
11) Jones Day NY (Chi bid 50)
12) Cleary NY
13) Davis Polk NY
14) Sullcrom NY
15) Greenburg Taurig Chi
16) Sheppard Mullin NY
17) Simpson Thatcher NY
18) Cadwalader NY (Miss)
19) Fried Frank NY (Miss)
20) goldberg kohn Chi
21) Paul Hastings Chi (Miss)
22) Shearman & Sterling NY (Miss)
23) Proskauer Rose Chi (Miss)
24) Chapman and Cutler (Miss)
25) Proskauer NY (Miss)
26) Debevoise NY
27) Strook & Strook NY
28) Katten Chi (Miss)
29) Baker Chi (Miss)
30) Mayer Chi (Miss)
31) Mofo NY (Miss)
32) Cravath (Miss)
33) DLA (Miss)
34) Allen & Overy NY (miss)
35) Gibson Dunn NY (miss)
36) Jenner Chi (miss)
37) Ropes & Gray (miss)
38) Dechert LLP NY (miss)
39) King & Spalding NY (Miss)
40) WilmerHale NY (Miss)
41) Hughes Hubbard & Reed NY (Miss)
42) Curtis Mallet Prevost NY (Miss)
43) Eimer Stahl Chi (Miss)
44) Edelson Chi (Miss)
45) Dykema gusset Chi (Miss)
46) McDermott Chi (Miss)
47) Vedder Chi (Miss)
48) Perkins Chi (Miss)
49) Latham NY (Miss but have Latham Chi)
50) Jones Day Chi (Miss but have JD NY)


Anything without a miss is a hit. I bid a lot of firms I knew I wouldn't get low so they can see that I bid them should I pick them up during add/drop.

20 Interviews.

Pretty happy about Debevoise

[Anonymous User]

19 interviews.

Missed:
Baker & McKenzie at 6
Sidley Austin at 8
Milbank (NYC) at 12
Davis Polk (NYC) at 16

[Anonymous User]

23 interviews.

Missed Milbank at 11 and Jones Day Chicago at 14.


-Loxoto

[Anonymous User]

Bidlist posted below, like the first anon if no (Miss) is there then it was a successful bid. All firms NYC unless otherwise noted

1. Sidley Chi
2. Kirkland Chi
3. Kirkland
4. Boies Lit
5. Latham
6. Weil
7. DPW
8. Cleary
9. Shearman (Miss)
10. Fried Frank
11. Milbank
*Guess we know where Milbank filled lol
12. Skadden
13. Paul Weiss
14. Proskauer
15. Cadwalader (Miss)
16. Simpson
17. Jones Day
18. SullCrom
19. Cravath
20. Ropes and Gray (Miss)
21. Allen and Overy (Miss)
22. WilmerHale (Miss)
23. Debevoise
24. Gibson Dun (Miss)
25. Dechert (Miss)
26. Pircher Chi
27. Mofo (Miss)
28. Shephard Mullin
29. Polsinelli Chi (Miss)
30. Baker Hostetler (Miss)
31. Bickel Brewer
32. Ackerman
38. Gunderson
47. Wachtell

[Anonymous User]

For posterity:

25 Interviews, bid NYC and Chi with some random others thrown in.

Got 19 out of top 20.

Missed Jones Day (Chi) at 13
Missed Katten at 22
Missed Cravath at 29


Got Boise (NY) at 21
Got goldberg kohn at 23
Got Stroock at 25
Got Cadwalader DC at 45
Got Gunderson (NY) at 33

[Anonymous User]

Landed 18 out of 45 bids. Feeling a little blue after seeing the 20+ posters above.

Missed Baker & McKenzie at 5, Jones Day (Chi) at 11, Latham (Chi) at 12, and Skadden (Chi) at 20. Only landed 2 screeners from the 21-45 bid range.

[Xifeng]

For those of you who are unhappy with your #s, you'll be able to pick up more interviews during OCI itself, so don't worry. I think most people our year had 19-20.

[Anonymous User]

I'm a previous anon who posted a bidlist. If people are willing to include their "hits" I think it would be more informative--I sure would have liked to see a thread full of them when I was writing up mine..

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know how many open slots for big NY firms have opened up in the past? I got a good number of interviews in the market I'm targeting, but not as many in NY as I'd hoped...which is a little worrisome given my median grades.

Thanks

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know how many open slots for big NY firms have opened up in the past? I got a good number of interviews in the market I'm targeting, but not as many in NY as I'd hoped...which is a little worrisome given my median grades.

Thanks

Look for the lower-ranked firms on the last few days of interviews. This will be when people are starting to look at the number of callbacks they have and cancelling at firms they consider to be "inferior."

[Anonymous User]

First 25 were CA. Got 23/25. Pleased!

[Anonymous User]

If anyone has gotten an interview from mass mailing, could you share the firm so we can make sure to apply too?

[Anonymous User]

If anyone has gotten an interview from mass mailing, could you share the firm so we can make sure to apply too?

In my experience, mass mailing is useless. You should be networking at firms at which you can tell a plausible story about wanting to work there. Email alums and ask to chat -- after you speak, send then your résumé and have them forward it to recruiting. Otherwise it won't get looked at.

I can tell you the firms I had success getting screeners at, but it wouldn't help you. Work your connections.

[Anonymous User]

27/50. 13 Chi, 6 LA, 6 TX, two randoms. 177-178 range, no LR.
Top 10 all Chi (the normal suspects). 11-16 LA, got all. 4 more Chi, missed two (Mayer Brown and Bryan Cave). 10 TX after that, landed 6.

Good luck to all.

[Anonymous User]

If anyone has gotten an interview from mass mailing, could you share the firm so we can make sure to apply too?

In my experience, mass mailing is useless. You should be networking at firms at which you can tell a plausible story about wanting to work there. Email alums and ask to chat -- after you speak, send then your résumé and have them forward it to recruiting. Otherwise it won't get looked at.

I can tell you the firms I had success getting screeners at, but it wouldn't help you. Work your connections.

That's not necessarily true. Last year I did a huge mass mailing campaign to firms where I had never met anyone, and got nearly a dozen interviews.

There's no reason not to mass mail every firm of every size in your target markets that you will not be interviewing with at OCI. The return rate will be small, but likely greater than zero.

[Haymarket]

27/50. 13 Chi, 6 LA, 6 TX, two randoms. 177-178 range, no LR.
Top 10 all Chi (the normal suspects). 11-16 LA, got all. 4 more Chi, missed two (Mayer Brown and Bryan Cave). 10 TX after that, landed 6.

Good luck to all.

I hope you're from Texas.

[Anonymous User]

That's not necessarily true. Last year I did a huge mass mailing campaign to firms where I had never met anyone, and got nearly a dozen interviews.

There's no reason not to mass mail every firm of every size in your target markets that you will not be interviewing with at OCI. The return rate will be small, but likely greater than zero.

This. I have heard of Quinn, Polsinelli(secondary), Cahill, Willkie, and Brown Rudnick so far (this list doesn't include the loyola patent fair).

[Anonymous User]

I'm looking at biglaw in ny or hong kong. not chicago since i don't have ties to the region. what are the approximate grade cutoffs in both areas?

[Mad Hatter]

I'm looking at biglaw in ny or hong kong. not chicago since i don't have ties to the region. what are the approximate grade cutoffs in both areas?

You must be joking...

[2014]

I'm looking at biglaw in ny or hong kong. not chicago since i don't have ties to the region. what are the approximate grade cutoffs in both areas?

Doesn't effect you, bidding is done just do as well as you can in all of your interviews and get a job.

If we tell you the GPA cutoff is 179 or 174, I don't see how your behavior changes either way.

[Anonymous User]

Edit: I apologize for intruding your thread as a 0L. In retrospect, it was wrong of me. I wish you all nothing but the best and I look forward to meeting you all.

[RodneyRuxin]

Thanks to everyone that is posting their lists with hits and misses. Could you please share grades range, LR, and any other pertinent info such as ties? Thanks, appreciate it, being a rising 1L at the school and all.

You risk being outed by posting in the employment forum as a 0L, so be careful.

I think we all plan on sharing grades when it comes to getting callbacks, but they are irrelevant for bidlists as people have various idiosyncratic desires that could cause them to be bidding too aggressively, too safely, or horribly (bidding tons of markets, for example). By the time bidding rolls around for you next year, people will in general have a good idea of the grades you need for various firms, and you can use our critiques of bidlists to explore this further (and past threads, for that matter).

My advice would be to relax as 1L approaches, we look forward to seeing you all in the fall, but please leave the OCI thread to students.