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[Anonymous User]

I just accepted with JD over both Fulbright and V & E (all Dallas)

[Anonymous User]

I just accepted with JD over both Fulbright and V & E (all Dallas)

Did they give any hints over the phone as to how many have accepted thus far? I'm torn b/w JD and BB, actually.

[Anonymous User]

I just accepted with JD over both Fulbright and V & E (all Dallas)

Also, are you planning on spending your second-half at another firm?

[Anonymous User]

I just accepted with JD over both Fulbright and V & E (all Dallas)

Would you be willing to share any insight on the factors that influenced your decision the most. I can understand caution towards FJ given their history of no-offering SAs, but how about V&E?

Lastly, are you interested in corporate or litigation?

[Anonymous User]

I know that a couple of JD Dallas offers have gone out. Hopefully, the others that interviewed last week will hear today. Is anyone seriously considering JD over either BB, FJ, or VE?

Yup. However, JD said they were getting tight on offer numbers already, and needed to hear back from students with pending offers before they could make more. Not sure how to feel about that...

I just accepted with JD over both Fulbright and V & E (all Dallas)

I'm guessing this does not bode well for the rest of us, if they are running low on spots... congrats, though! I hope they're as cool as they seemed to be.

[Anonymous User]

To the poster immediately above, what other options are you considering in addition to JD? FWIW, I just called to indicate that I would be declining. We'll see if this spurs any action today. I liked JD a lot, but will ultimately take BB of JD. BB just seemed more accomodating to my second half split.

[Anonymous User]

This was my thinking on the situation.

I liked the people at V &E

I loved the people at Fulbright and JD.

So, I just went ahead and knocked V & E out of the running even though I think it has a lot of benefits (great exit options, prestige if you want to stay in TX, really nice people). The fit just wasn't there for me.

I also really liked Fulbright, but I had some concerns about financial viability AND they only do a six week program. I am not splitting (I had a lot of offers, but no one who was willing to do a second half), so I did not just want to work a six-week summer. With JD and Fulbright really really close, this was enough to push JD ahead. Another benefit for Fulbright is the litigation training if you want to be a litigator.

Honestly, I don't think there is a wrong decision here, and I hope that I like JD as much as I think I will. Good luck to everyone in deciding!!

[Anonymous User]

I just accepted with JD over both Fulbright and V & E (all Dallas)

Did they give any hints over the phone as to how many have accepted thus far? I'm torn b/w JD and BB, actually.

I think they have a good portion of the summer class filled already--I would say between 50 and 75%

[Anonymous User]

I think they have a good portion of the summer class filled already--I would say between 50 and 75%

That sounds about right given that they are brining back 4-5 1Ls. That gives them only 10 spots or so.

[Anonymous User]

Thompson Coe anyone? I just got my rejection letter today despite having received offers from the Big3.

[Anonymous User]

To the poster immediately above, what other options are you considering in addition to JD? FWIW, I just called to indicate that I would be declining. We'll see if this spurs any action today. I liked JD a lot, but will ultimately take BB of JD. BB just seemed more accomodating to my second half split.

V&E and some other firms (all in Houston)

[Anonymous User]

Offer at Haynes and Boone. T14, some Texas ties, around/slightly below median. Absolutely loved the people and the place. I am thinking of accepting. It's a 7-weeks program, though, and my other offers (non-Texas) don't let me split either. I don't know if it is wise to just work 7-weeks at one firm and be no-offered due to the economy or something. Any thoughts, folks?

[kujhawk24]

Offer at Haynes and Boone. T14, some Texas ties, around/slightly below median. Absolutely loved the people and the place. I am thinking of accepting. It's a 7-weeks program, though, and my other offers (non-Texas) don't let me split either. I don't know if it is wise to just work 7-weeks at one firm and be no-offered due to the economy or something. Any thoughts, folks?

Which office?

[Anonymous User]

Offer at Haynes and Boone. T14, some Texas ties, around/slightly below median. Absolutely loved the people and the place. I am thinking of accepting. It's a 7-weeks program, though, and my other offers (non-Texas) don't let me split either. I don't know if it is wise to just work 7-weeks at one firm and be no-offered due to the economy or something. Any thoughts, folks?

If it was the Dallas office, did the offer come today or earlier this week?

[Anonymous User]

HayBoo offeree from above here. Dallas office. Offer came midweek this week. I don't know what to do with their 7-weeks program. I want to be there but don't have any other Texas offer to split with. Two other non-Texas offers have strict non-split policies. Is it okay to just do 7-weeks and enjoy the rest of the summer? What do you all think?

[Anonymous User]

HayBoo offeree from above here. Dallas office. Offer came midweek this week. I don't know what to do with their 7-weeks program. I want to be there but don't have any other Texas offer to split with. Two other non-Texas offers have strict non-split policies. Is it okay to just do 7-weeks and enjoy the rest of the summer? What do you all think?

Firmwide, HayBoo gave offers to 74% of its SAs into 2009 (40/54). I don't have the breakdown by office, though. I also don't have the information from 2010 available. Anyone else?

I may be able to give some insight into other markets. Would you be willing to share the other firms that you have outstanding offers from? Are they NYC firms that have historically given out 100% offer rates (even in 2008/2009)?

[Anonymous User]

HayBoo offeree from above here. Dallas office. Offer came midweek this week. I don't know what to do with their 7-weeks program. I want to be there but don't have any other Texas offer to split with. Two other non-Texas offers have strict non-split policies. Is it okay to just do 7-weeks and enjoy the rest of the summer? What do you all think?

If you really want to be there (great firm, btw), then you're probably better off just sticking with them, at least in terms of getting an offer. Of course, if you want to make some more money next summer, then maybe push for something else. Long-term, you're in pretty good shape w/ just going there.

[Anonymous User]

HayBoo offeree from above here. Dallas office. Offer came midweek this week. I don't know what to do with their 7-weeks program. I want to be there but don't have any other Texas offer to split with. Two other non-Texas offers have strict non-split policies. Is it okay to just do 7-weeks and enjoy the rest of the summer? What do you all think?

If you really want to be there (great firm, btw), then you're probably better off just sticking with them, at least in terms of getting an offer. Of course, if you want to make some more money next summer, then maybe push for something else. Long-term, you're in pretty good shape w/ just going there.

Thanks for the input. So you think that a month-long vacation after the HayBoo SA is credited? I will try to get a public interest gig or something but it just might be that I will be forced to go somewhere exotic and relax

Firmwide, HayBoo gave offers to 74% of its SAs into 2009 (40/54). I don't have the breakdown by office, though. I also don't have the information from 2010 available. Anyone else?

I may be able to give some insight into other markets. Would you be willing to share the other firms that you have outstanding offers from? Are they NYC firms that have historically given out 100% offer rates (even in 2008/2009)?

Thank you for the response. Yeah, the only info I have is that NALP data. I have asked them for more numbers but I have yet to hear back. As to my outstanding offers, they're non-NYC/secondary markets. One has a structured 10-weeks only program so that's out of the question if going with HayBoo. The other is a small boutique (not uber-prestigious boutique type but below market and specialized practice boutique type) without a rigid, structured program. I just might be able to convince them to let me work for second-half but 7 weeks at HayBoo and then even 4 more at another city will be exhausting. 7+6 would just be asking for it.

Ultimately, I just want to make sure I convert my SA gig into a permanent offer, wherever I end up. The other main offer is at a firm very, very (eerily) similar to HayBoo but at a different city. I will probably cross my fingers and swing with HayBoo because I'd rather be in Dallas. Seven is a magical number, I guess.

[Anonymous User]

Thanks for the input. So you think that a month-long vacation after the HayBoo SA is credited? I will try to get a public interest gig or something but it just might be that I will be forced to go somewhere exotic and relax

If you know you want to be there, I would say so. Firms right now have issues w/ split loyalties, and they find it easier to no-offer SAs who split. This is why so many places don't allow it anymore. I may not split, even though I have an opportunity to, just because I'm pretty sure I know where I'd like to go.

Plus, if money isn't an issue, take the vacation. Everyone in law school deserves a vacation after all this BS.

[Anonymous User]

Dinged by Beck, Redden post-callback.

Ugh.

I'm gonna be so depressed if I strike out in Texas.

[Anonymous User]

Dinged by BB Houston. Oh, well.

To ^, good luck. How many CBs you go on?

[Anonymous User]

Dinged by BB Houston. Oh, well.

To ^, good luck. How many CBs you go on?

Sorry to hear that. When did you CB? Where they your first choice?

[Anonymous User]

Dinged by BB Houston. Oh, well.

To ^, good luck. How many CBs you go on?

4 in Houston, but all at small lit boutiques like BRS.

[Anonymous User]

Dinged by BB Houston. Oh, well.

To ^, good luck. How many CBs you go on?

Sorry to hear it. May I ask how the firm contacted you to let you know the bad news? (snail mail, e-mail, phone?)

[Anonymous User]

Dinged by BB Houston. Oh, well.

To ^, good luck. How many CBs you go on?

Sorry to hear it. May I ask how the firm contacted you to let you know the bad news? (snail mail, e-mail, phone?)

Snail Mail. I wasn't disappointed, so no worries. I liked the people I met there (and had a very pleasant, and long, dinner with two associates the night before the CB), but the younger associates seemed unhappy and nervous, the office looked old/dingy and smelled weird (strangely enough), and a few comments made it clear they were still having some financial problems. I may have subconsciously responded negatively to all of it, though I tried not to.

I hear the Dallas office is completely different, though, both in personality and feel. Don't mean to knock the firm at either office, though... I guess it probably just wasn't the right fit for me.