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Post by First Offense » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:08 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Holy shit, heard head of our lit department saying that "This is going to blow our budget wide open, we'll have to redo the whole thing."

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Post by MCFC » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:25 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Holy shit, heard head of our lit department saying that "This is going to blow our budget wide open, we'll have to redo the whole thing."
You sure they weren't talking about your chaise lounge?

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Post by abitaman6363 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:07 pm

The 2007 ST-inspired pay raise was from $145k to $160k. Does anyone know the year and amount of the last pre-2007 NYC pay increase?

Also, even though law firms do not necessarily adjust salary to reflect inflation, cumulative inflation since 2007 is ~15%. I believe that means for biglaw salary to match inflation, $160k starting salaries would have to increase by at least ~$24k.

Just trying to have a broad lay of the land in this conversation and (i) what impetuses firms have to increase salaries and (ii) what the increase (if any) will look like.
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Post by Tiago Splitter » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:07 pm

abitaman6363 wrote:The 2007 ST-inspired pay raise was from $145k to $160k. Does anyone know the year and amount of the last pre-2007 NYC pay increase?
S&C pushed it from 125 to 145 in 2005.

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Post by abitaman6363 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:16 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
abitaman6363 wrote:The 2007 ST-inspired pay raise was from $145k to $160k. Does anyone know the year and amount of the last pre-2007 NYC pay increase?
S&C pushed it from 125 to 145 in 2005.
Thanks for the info!

So essentially from 2004 to 2007 there was a $35,000 increase in base salary for first-year attorneys. That certainly gives more credence to the thought that we are due for a major (read: $30,000) pay increase.

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Post by Tiago Splitter » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:19 pm

abitaman6363 wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
abitaman6363 wrote:The 2007 ST-inspired pay raise was from $145k to $160k. Does anyone know the year and amount of the last pre-2007 NYC pay increase?
S&C pushed it from 125 to 145 in 2005.
Thanks for the info!

So essentially from 2004 to 2007 there was a $35,000 increase in base salary for first-year attorneys. That certainly gives more credence to the thought that we are due for a major (read: $30,000) pay increase.
I think it lends credence to the idea that after the raise to 190 we'll get another one shortly thereafter. The aftershock following the big quake, if you will.

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Post by jbagelboy » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:21 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
abitaman6363 wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
abitaman6363 wrote:The 2007 ST-inspired pay raise was from $145k to $160k. Does anyone know the year and amount of the last pre-2007 NYC pay increase?
S&C pushed it from 125 to 145 in 2005.
Thanks for the info!

So essentially from 2004 to 2007 there was a $35,000 increase in base salary for first-year attorneys. That certainly gives more credence to the thought that we are due for a major (read: $30,000) pay increase.
I think it lends credence to the idea that after the raise to 190 we'll get another one shortly thereafter. The aftershock following the big quake, if you will.
NY to $205K.

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Re: NY to 190k??(possibly led by Paul Weiss)

Post by 03152016 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:26 pm

the only question now is what kind of increase to the bonus scale we can expect when ny goes to 190

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Post by Grond » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:45 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
abitaman6363 wrote:The 2007 ST-inspired pay raise was from $145k to $160k. Does anyone know the year and amount of the last pre-2007 NYC pay increase?
S&C pushed it from 125 to 145 in 2005.
First year comp in 1995 was what, 54K?

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Post by Tiago Splitter » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:54 pm

Grond wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
abitaman6363 wrote:The 2007 ST-inspired pay raise was from $145k to $160k. Does anyone know the year and amount of the last pre-2007 NYC pay increase?
S&C pushed it from 125 to 145 in 2005.
First year comp in 1995 was what, 54K?
Looks like it was in the low-80k range back then. Meaning it doubled in ten years. Now it's been almost ten years and we've got nothing. Let's just put a crestor lock! on NYC to 320k before 2017 is out.

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Re: NY to 190k??(possibly led by Paul Weiss)

Post by UnicornHunter » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:14 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
El Pollito wrote:TLS can't be this good at group flame.
75% of people in this thread are NOT flame.
3 out of 4 TLSers can't be wrong, NY TO 190!!!!

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Post by rpupkin » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:45 pm

wiz wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:How about a compromise: NY to 175?
Gtfo
Indeed. 175 would be insulting. If NYC firms aren't going to 190, I'd prefer they just stay at 160. No half measures.

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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:01 am

Do people think Skadden will follow to 190k in NY? I know they keep their compensation the same throughout their offices, would be pretty sweet if they raised to 190k in less expensive COL cities

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Anonymous User wrote:Do people think Skadden will follow to 190k in NY? I know they keep their compensation the same throughout their offices, would be pretty sweet if they raised to 190k in less expensive COL cities
CHICAGO TO $190K CONFIRMED!!!


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Post by Johann » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:30 am

Skadden and Kirkland are the only sure almost instant movers in Chicago my opinion. Sidley is kinda cheap which is worrisome but they prolly move too.

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people going on second looks next week

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smaug wrote:
anyriotgirl wrote:people going on second looks next week

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Post by Anonymous User » Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:56 pm

Did a second look at pw. A midlevel strongly insinuated inside knowledge of another firm moving up ("we might not be the first to move to 190, but we'll match it").

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Post by First Offense » Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Did a second look at pw last week. A midlevel strongly insinuated inside knowledge of another firm moving up ("we might not be the first to move to 190, but we'll match it").

Confirmed.
YES!

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