3L OCI Forum

[Anonymous User]

Very recently got a Paul, Weiss callback for corporate so there could still be movement

[Anonymous User]

Hey, I just got one too (Weiss CB).

So it seems they made movement this week.

(I declined mine, so good luck to anyone looking)

[Anonymous User]

Very recently got a Paul, Weiss callback for corporate so there could still be movement

Above anon, yeah I declined as well. Good luck to everyone!

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland SF and STB PA Offers

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland SF and STB PA Offers

Stats?

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland SF and STB PA Offers

When did you get the Kirkland offer? I've been waiting to hear back for a while.

[michael2015]

Re Kirkland and STB
Message me

[Anonymous User]

Email ding post Corp CB with DPW.

[Anonymous User]

Has there really been no Goodwin Procter (NY) movement?

[michael2015]

Email ding post Corp CB with DPW.

Can you PM me?

[Anonymous User]

also Paul weiss cb for corporate, also declined.

[Anonymous User]

bump on Goodwin NY

[Anonymous User]

congrats to those with offers! so what is the general consensus on 3L oci? definitely doable? Any tips/takeaways? Thanks!

[Anonymous User]

Definitely doable, but I think it's generally correct that a 2L SA is a prerequisite, plus grades. People say you have to have an offer but I'm pretty sure I received a 3L offer where no one during the CB asked if I had an SA offer.

Tips:
Apply early. I mailed my apps around July 20 and I wish I would have done it earlier. You can always send a followup every month or so, but if you don't apply early enough you end up getting squeezed by the October 1 deadline because it can be a longer process.

If you're targeting NY but your school/SA aren't in town, schedule a trip on your own to arrive on a night early in the week and let the firms know well in advance, probably at least two weeks, that you will be in town (I would put it in both the cover letter and the email if you do it separately, after this experience I'm 99% sure no one reads the cover letter). I'd try and do this late July or early August before OCI really gets going. This way you can usually land a screener if you're qualified whereas you might not get a CB that early or at all. I don't know that I would have done this for LA/Chi but that's just because there aren't as many firms hiring as many people. Depending on how that goes, try and plan another trip for early September after OCI is winding down.

Apply to all the top firms you might be interested in because what they definitely will ask you is who else you're interviewing with. Pretty sure everywhere I interviewed asked this. I wasn't shy about telling them the specific firms. I think it makes you look safer if other comparable firms are also interested in you and it makes you look serious about accepting with one of your 3L firms.

Don't assume anything about the timeline or results. If you look at this thread, there are instances of Cleary offers the day after the callback and K&E offers a month after the callback. Just keep after it. Every firm seems to handle this a little differently, their main focus is on 2L hiring, and sometimes things just come up.

I'm sure most of this has already been said here but hope it helps someone.

[Anonymous User]

Sidley NY ding, no screener

[Anonymous User]

I agree with person above.

Some additional thoughts:

1. A firm I interviewed with during 3L OCI called my summer firm to confirm that I indeed received an offer, so even if you aren't asked explicitly, there may be some follow-up behind the scenes that you may otherwise not be aware of.

2. I cannot agree more with the "schedule your trip to NYC" and tell them you're going to be there. I think this helped secure 2-3 more interviews than I otherwise would have gotten. Also, on this note, yes it would be great to be 2Ls again and have firms fly you everywhere, but if they don't you have to decide if a 1k trip is worth working at XYZ firm.

3. I mailed early August, followed-up early September and did fine. Some firms indicated in their responses that they are not going to start looking at 3Ls until December, others are just starting to respond now (mid-Oct), while another group already hired everyone they're looking for.

4. From anecdotal evidence, 3L OCI happens at: 1) V30 firms, 2) Mainly based in NYC, 3) Mainly in corporate.

5. During your 2L start to get a story painted, whether it is M&A or Cap Markets or PE, do something, take business school classes, get an internship, take only those classes. The better story you can paint, the better you will do.

If anyone has questions quote this and I can PM.

[Anonymous User]

This is going to be me next year. Any wisdom that can be left will be greatly appreciated!

[Anonymous User]

Solid advice above.

I'm still waiting on some callbacks. It has been a month for one but they insist they're still looking at candidates/not ready to ding me yet. Pretty sure I'm in a waitlist--this never really happened to me with a major firm during 2L OCI, so that's strange. The process is irregular compared to the weird standardization of 2L recruiting. Timelines vary by firms. Some basically run it like 2L OCI but most don't in my experience.

Also just incase there's any lingering confusion, "3L OCI" is really a misnomer. I think it gets used in here a lot (I know I do it) to refer to 3L recruiting generally.

[Anonymous User]

For those who applied earlier, did any one you have to navigate interviewing with other firms while your 2L SA was still ongoing?

[Anonymous User]

For those who applied earlier, did any one you have to navigate interviewing with other firms while your 2L SA was still ongoing?

Yes it was awkward but I just ducked out around lunch time.

[spyke123]

I agree with person above.

Some additional thoughts:

1. A firm I interviewed with during 3L OCI called my summer firm to confirm that I indeed received an offer, so even if you aren't asked explicitly, there may be some follow-up behind the scenes that you may otherwise not be aware of.

2. I cannot agree more with the "schedule your trip to NYC" and tell them you're going to be there. I think this helped secure 2-3 more interviews than I otherwise would have gotten. Also, on this note, yes it would be great to be 2Ls again and have firms fly you everywhere, but if they don't you have to decide if a 1k trip is worth working at XYZ firm.

3. I mailed early August, followed-up early September and did fine. Some firms indicated in their responses that they are not going to start looking at 3Ls until December, others are just starting to respond now (mid-Oct), while another group already hired everyone they're looking for.

4. From anecdotal evidence, 3L OCI happens at: 1) V30 firms, 2) Mainly based in NYC, 3) Mainly in corporate.

5. During your 2L start to get a story painted, whether it is M&A or Cap Markets or PE, do something, take business school classes, get an internship, take only those classes. The better story you can paint, the better you will do.

If anyone has questions quote this and I can PM.

can u PM me? thanks

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know if it's more feasible to do 3L oci at another office location of a firm you're with the prior summer? I will likely be summering at a satellite of a v50 that does not have a great offer rate (ok, its Texas). if worst case scenario i get no offered (but while doing good work), will it be easier to move to a different office?

[Anonymous User]

So it's been 3 weeks since my CB in a secondary market, and I've heard absolutely nothing since. I thought I would've heard after the 10/1 deadline, but nada. Anyone else in the same boat? Is this normal? Am I on some hold/wait list?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know if it's more feasible to do 3L oci at another office location of a firm you're with the prior summer? I will likely be summering at a satellite of a v50 that does not have a great offer rate (ok, its Texas). if worst case scenario i get no offered (but while doing good work), will it be easier to move to a different office?

If you get no-offered as a summer (for whatever reason) I would assume you're done firmwide.

[Anonymous User]

So it's been 3 weeks since my CB in a secondary market, and I've heard absolutely nothing since. I thought I would've heard after the 10/1 deadline, but nada. Anyone else in the same boat? Is this normal? Am I on some hold/wait list?

Any secondary market is probably going to take longer generally, and they might wait to see how many 2Ls they end up with. This may just be because I didn't expressly raise it, but I didn't have any firms express concern about the October 1 deadline or really even act like they were aware of it. Paul Weiss for example sent out a round of CBs on September 29th or something. So I wouldn't necessarily assume you would have heard especially if you didn't tell them about the deadline. In case you're on the wait list I think it might be worth it to send a follow up email at 4 weeks.