UChicago OCI 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Can firms tell whether you bid them? I'm wondering if we should add a few firms 45-50 just to try to get through sign ups. And whether having bid them and just say it was a very popular firm or something would help give you a chance at an interview. There are a few firms I know will go faster than where I can put them so I'm wondering if this might be smart. Or it might help just being able to honestly say you bid them and still want the firm.

[2014]

Can firms tell whether you bid them? I'm wondering if we should add a few firms 45-50 just to try to get through sign ups. And whether having bid them and just say it was a very popular firm or something would help give you a chance at an interview. There are a few firms I know will go faster than where I can put them so I'm wondering if this might be smart. Or it might help just being able to honestly say you bid them and still want the firm.

Yes, if you bid them and don't get them I believe they get your resume somehow. I don't know the logistics of it or whether they actually notice or look at them, but in theory they do know.


Also lol at the DC troll. Impressive effort to tailor it so well to UChi.

[Anonymous User]

Can firms tell whether you bid them? I'm wondering if we should add a few firms 45-50 just to try to get through sign ups. And whether having bid them and just say it was a very popular firm or something would help give you a chance at an interview. There are a few firms I know will go faster than where I can put them so I'm wondering if this might be smart. Or it might help just being able to honestly say you bid them and still want the firm.

Yes, if you bid them and don't get them I believe they get your resume somehow. I don't know the logistics of it or whether they actually notice or look at them, but in theory they do know.

V20 interviewer/Chicago alum here. If you're on our schedule, we have no idea where you bid us. I guess it's possible, like the previous poster said, that "we" receive your resume if you bid and didn't get us. But I'm pretty sure our recruiting office will throw those away, the attorneys never see them.

[Anonymous User]

Does journal membership (specifically LR) go on our transcripts? And when we bring transcripts to screeners, do we just bring the page with our grades or do we also include the page with the explanation/key?

[Anonymous User]

Does journal membership (specifically LR) go on our transcripts? And when we bring transcripts to screeners, do we just bring the page with our grades or do we also include the page with the explanation/key?

Previous alum/interviewer here. Pretty sure the transcript lists journal, but it should be on your resume anyways. Bring both pages of the transcript. If you get a non-maroon interviewer it's their only chance at understanding it. (Although even in years that I don't do Chicago OCI, they often come to me to help "interpret" the transcripts.)

[WheninLaw]

Does journal membership (specifically LR) go on our transcripts? And when we bring transcripts to screeners, do we just bring the page with our grades or do we also include the page with the explanation/key?

Journal membership does go on your transcript, but as previous poster said, it should be on your resume. PM me if you want an example of how to do that.

Some did the explanation sheet, some did not. I printed two-sided with grades/explanation. I don't think it matters.

[Neal Patrick Harris]

Northwestern just got their bids, I'd guess Chicago bidding is somewhat similar. Check out their thread for some last min thoughts. JD CHI went early for them.

[Anonymous User]

are Mayer Brown and MWE secure-ish at #10 and #11 respectively? Both have 63 slots

[Anonymous User]

I've been told to assume that most of the 21-slot Chicago firms will be gone by 20-ish.

So do i put:
1. All NYC after 20; or
2. NYC from 20-26, then Chicago from 27+; or
3. Chicago from 20-26, then NYC from 27+

Essentially, what do i do with the cohort of 21-slot Chicago firms after i pass #20? Do i just write them off? Do i give myself a shot at getting 1-2 of them by putting them higher after 20 and risk losing all the NYC ones that come later? Or do I hedge by having NYC after 20 and just seeing what fate does with the Chicago firms after #27?

[Neal Patrick Harris]

I've been told to assume that most of the 21-slot Chicago firms will be gone by 20-ish.

So do i put:
1. All NYC after 20; or
2. NYC from 20-26, then Chicago from 27+; or
3. Chicago from 20-26, then NYC from 27+

Essentially, what do i do with the cohort of 21-slot Chicago firms after i pass #20? Do i just write them off? Do i give myself a shot at getting 1-2 of them by putting them higher after 20 and risk losing all the NYC ones that come later? Or do I hedge by having NYC after 20 and just seeing what fate does with the Chicago firms after #27?

You have a better shot at NYC 21 slot firms after 20 because less people want them.

You can also put 21 slot chicago firms (the ones no one has ever heard of) around there and hope to get them.

Really, though. It's very unlikely you'll get anything except a couple random ones if you're lucky--and chances are you'll accept an offer at any firm in your top 15 before that one, so don't stress over it.

[Anonymous User]

When do we get back bid results?

[Robb]

When do we get back bid results?

Looks like last year bidding closed Aug 4 (Sun, like this year) and results came out Aug 8 (Thur).

So if follows the same pattern, this Thur. the 7th. This is also what the "Important Dates" handout says.

[Anonymous User]

When do we get back bid results?

Looks like last year bidding closed Aug 4 (Sun, like this year) and results came out Aug 8 (Thur).

So if follows the same pattern, this Thur. the 7th. This is also what the "Important Dates" handout says.

Thanks.

[Anonymous User]

I think that on the bidding screen in Symplicity under the Estimated 2L Slots column it has the number of slots remaining for firms that didn't fill. This is a complete guess, but it seems to match up with which firms I would think would and wouldn't fill, and for those that didn't fill, by how much.

[Anonymous User]

I think that on the bidding screen in Symplicity under the Estimated 2L Slots column it has the number of slots remaining for firms that didn't fill. This is a complete guess, but it seems to match up with which firms I would think would and wouldn't fill, and for those that didn't fill, by how much.

Lol if that's the case 49/50 of the firms I bid filled

[Anonymous User]

I think that on the bidding screen in Symplicity under the Estimated 2L Slots column it has the number of slots remaining for firms that didn't fill. This is a complete guess, but it seems to match up with which firms I would think would and wouldn't fill, and for those that didn't fill, by how much.

Lol if that's the case 49/50 of the firms I bid filled

Haha 48/50 here. One of the ones that didn't was Irell and I don't have the grades for Irell lol.

[Anonymous User]

40/50 firms filled. not sure what that means... my top firm bid had 3 slots.

[Mal Reynolds]

40/50 firms filled. not sure what that means... my top firm bid had 3 slots.

Unless OP's assumption is wrong, that means you have at least ten interviews. Are you bidding a less popular secondary market or something.

[Anonymous User]

40/50 firms filled. not sure what that means... my top firm bid had 3 slots.

Unless OP's assumption is wrong, that means you have at least ten interviews. Are you bidding a less popular secondary market or something.

nyc and my home market, which i don't think is that much of a secondary market. oh well, i'll take any interview i can get since i'm below a 177.

[20141023]

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[Crowing]

So Wachtell and Cravath filled. It seems like California was really not a popular option for our class, which is surprising since the whole year I felt like half our damn class is from Cali.

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[Anonymous User]

Hmm, only ended up using 28 bids... 4 of 'em didn't fill up. Fortunately those weren't high bids

For future 1L's, here are the firms that, assuming the above is correct, didn't fill up.

Ahmad Zavitsanos Houston 9
Akerman Miami 9
Allen & Overy HongKong 7
BakerHostetler NY 1
Cadwalader DC 3
Cleary DC 1
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Enforcement Division DC 1
Dorsey & Whitney Minneapolis 2
Drinker Biddle & Reath Chicago 2
Drinker Biddle & Reath Philly 9
Earthjustice SF 4
Faegre Baker Daniels Fort Wayne 2
Faegre Baker Daniels Indianapolis 3
Faegre Baker Daniels Minneapolis 4
Faegre Baker Daniels South Bend 2
Fenwick & West Seattle 1
Foster Pepper Seattle 10
Gammage & Burnham Phoenix 4
Gibson Dunn Palo Alto 2
Gibson Dunn Dallas 5
Gibson Dunn Denver 3
Gibson Dunn LA 5
Gibson Dunn Orange County 2
Gibson Dunn San Fran 5
Harris Wiltshire & Grannis DC 8
Husch Blackwell All 12
Irell LA 17
Irell NewPort Beach 11
Ivins Phillips & Barker DC 10
Jackson Walker All 6
K&L Gates Dallas 15
K&L Gates Portland 8
King & Spalding DC 3
King & Spalding Atlanta 2
Kirkland & Ellis Houston 2
Kirkland & Ellisa LA 8
Knobbe Martens Irvine 12
Knobbe Martens All other 13
Latham Singapore/Tokyo/Boston/Hong Kong/Houston/London/Shanghai 4
Latham DC 3
Lindquist & Vennum Minneapolis 15
Masion Edelman Borman & Brand Minneapolis 16
Mayer Brown DC 8
McDonnel Boehen Hulbert & Berghoff Chicago 7
Morrison & Foerster LA 4
Munger Tolles & Olson LA 18
Norton Rose Fullbright All 1
O'Melveny & Myers Century City LA 11
O'Melveny & Myers LA 1
O'Melveny & Myers Menlo Park 9
O'Melveny & Myers Newport Beach 13
O'Melveny & Myers San Francisco 3
Office of Comptroller of Currency Dallas 3
Office of Comptroller of Currency Denver 3
Office of Comptroller of Currency NY 3
Office of Comptroller of Currency DC 2
Osborn Maledon Phoenix 5
Paul Hastings Costa Mesa 1
Paul Hastings Houston 1
Perkins Coie Seattle 9
Porter Wright Morris & Arthur Columbus 5
Public Defender for DC DC 7
Reinhart Boerner Milwaukee 8
Ropes & Gray San Fran 2
Ropes & Gray Palo Alto 2
Sheppard Mullin San Fran 3
Sheppard Mullin DC 14
Sidley Austin Houston 15
Sidley Austin Palo Alto 7
Simpson Thacher Houston 1
Simpson Thacher LA 3
Skadden Houston 16
Skadden DC 1
Skadden Wilmington 8
Stearns Weaver Miami 14
Stinson Leonard Street Minneapolis 7
Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LA 3
US Dept. of Air Force - JAG Grissom 6
US Dept. of State Office of Legal Advisor DC 6
US Federal Reserve Legal Division DC 2
UsS Dept. of Army Arlington 4
Whyte Hirschboeck Madison 8
Whyte Hirschboeck Milwaukee 8
WilmerHale Boston 1
Wilson Sonsini All 10
Winthrop & Weinstine Minneaplis 16

Edit: later anon also pointed out these two:

BakerHostetler DC 1
Goodwin Proctor Boston 9

[Neal Patrick Harris]

Good of you to post the firm list for future 2Ls.

For what it's worth, these are the firms you can assume will be open for add/drop. Pick some you like and give them a shot. If you bid aggressively, add safeties. If you bid cautiously, add some long-shots.

[Anonymous User]

49/53 filled for me.