UChicago OCI 2013 Forum

[RodneyRuxin]

When you bid multiple offices of a firm and get an interview for one of the offices, can the firm see the other office(s) you bid?

Depends if the firm has listed "no multiple interviews"(latham) or chose the two offices to be treated as two separate firms(Kirkland).

If it's the former, then the interviewer will see. If it's the latter, then I think it depends on the firm and whether or not they're communicating b/w offices.

[Anonymous User]

When you bid multiple offices of a firm and get an interview for one of the offices, can the firm see the other office(s) you bid?

Depends if the firm has listed "no multiple interviews"(latham) or chose the two offices to be treated as two separate firms(Kirkland).

If it's the former, then the interviewer will see. If it's the latter, then I think it depends on the firm and whether or not they're communicating b/w offices.

When I bid both K&E/Sidley NYC & Chicago, one of them (can't remember which) mentioned in the "rejection" CB letter that they were pleased I got a CB for the other office. So some of them communicate at some point, but I'm not sure when exactly.

[RodneyRuxin]

When you bid multiple offices of a firm and get an interview for one of the offices, can the firm see the other office(s) you bid?

Depends if the firm has listed "no multiple interviews"(latham) or chose the two offices to be treated as two separate firms(Kirkland).

If it's the former, then the interviewer will see. If it's the latter, then I think it depends on the firm and whether or not they're communicating b/w offices.

When I bid both K&E/Sidley NYC & Chicago, one of them (can't remember which) mentioned in the "rejection" CB letter that they were pleased I got a CB for the other office. So some of them communicate at some point, but I'm not sure when exactly.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. But I think that when it has the multiple offices icon, it means that only one set of people are interviewing for multiple offices (thus they are guaranteed to know). I may be wrong on that point, but that's my knowledge.

[Anonymous User]

When you bid multiple offices of a firm and get an interview for one of the offices, can the firm see the other office(s) you bid?

Depends if the firm has listed "no multiple interviews"(latham) or chose the two offices to be treated as two separate firms(Kirkland).

If it's the former, then the interviewer will see. If it's the latter, then I think it depends on the firm and whether or not they're communicating b/w offices.

When I bid both K&E/Sidley NYC & Chicago, one of them (can't remember which) mentioned in the "rejection" CB letter that they were pleased I got a CB for the other office. So some of them communicate at some point, but I'm not sure when exactly.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. But I think that when it has the multiple offices icon, it means that only one set of people are interviewing for multiple offices (thus they are guaranteed to know). I may be wrong on that point, but that's my knowledge.

Good to know, thanks a lot.

[Anonymous User]

180, some WE, no journal

Thoughts on this bid list in terms of scoring screeners?

All Chicago offices.

Sidley
Ropes
Paul Hastings
Sheppard
Kirkland
Schiff
Perkins Coie
Jenner
Katten
Latham
Winston Strawn
Mayer
Proskauer
McDermott
Foley Lardner
Vedder


Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous User]

If it helps anyone, Cahill snail mail ding. Sent in an app the week after grades were released.

[Anonymous User]

If it helps anyone, Cahill snail mail ding. Sent in an app the week after grades were released.

Sorry to hear that. Mind sharing stats?

[Emma.]

180, some WE, no journal

Thoughts on this bid list in terms of scoring screeners?

All Chicago offices.

Sidley
Ropes
Paul Hastings
Sheppard
Kirkland
Schiff
Perkins Coie
Jenner
Katten
Latham
Winston Strawn
Mayer
Proskauer
McDermott
Foley Lardner
Vedder


Thanks in advance.

Do NOT waste a bid on Winston by bidding it that high. You'll have other options, so Winston should be dead to you.

[Anonymous User]

If it helps anyone, Cahill snail mail ding. Sent in an app the week after grades were released.

Different poster here. Sent in app to Cahill and had a screener last week; said they would let me know about CB later as the interview season is just starting. 178.5, some WE, networked with alumni there in advance.

[Anonymous User]

If it helps anyone, Cahill snail mail ding. Sent in an app the week after grades were released.

Different poster here. Sent in app to Cahill and had a screener last week; said they would let me know about CB later as the interview season is just starting. 178.5, some WE, networked with alumni there in advance.

Previous anon. Grats!

I don't wanna share grades considering there are likely few bidding Cahill, but I am KJD with no connection so I'm guessing those matter (I have a CB with a higher ranked vault firm with virtually the same application).

One takeaway is that they are reviewing apps now so if you're interested you should apply asap.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone interested in critiquing my bid list? I'm a transfer.

[Anonymous User]

Any last minute bidlist suggestions? Chicago T2 transfer, top 3%, LR/Moot Court invites, wrote on to secondary UChicago journal, significant non-legal WE. Interested primarily in Chicago, NY as secondary market (all firms Chicago offices unless NY noted). Interested in litigation but open to transactional. Any feedback is appreciated.

1 Jenner & Block
2 Davis Polk NY
3 Kirkland & Ellis
4 sidley austin llp
5 Skadden
6 DLA Piper
7 Latham & Watkins
8 Mayer Brown
9 Jones Day
10 Ropes & Gray
11 Schiff Harden
12 Katten Munchin Rosenman
13 Proskauer Rose
14 Winston & Strawn
15 paul hastings llp
16 Dentons
17 Boies Schiller Flexner NY
18 Sullivan & Cromwell NY
19 Chapman & Cutler
20 Millbank NY
21 Vedder Price
22 Baker & McKenzie
23 Cleary NY
24 Greenberg Traurig
25 K&L Gates
26 Locke Lord
27 Foley & Lardner
28 Simpson Thatcher Bartlett NY
29 Barack Ferrazano
30 Cravath NY
31 Shephard Mullin Richter
32 Dechert
33 Morgan Lewis & Bockius
34 Perkins Coie
35 Drinker, Biddle, & Reath
36 mcguirewoods LLP
37 Holland & Knight
38 goldberg kohn
39 Bryan Cave
40 Edwards Wildman Palmer
41 Polsinelli
42 Reed Smith
43 Debevoise NY
44 Dykema Gossett
45 Faegre Baker Daniels
46 Quarles & Brady

[Mad Hatter]

Not commenting overall, but you might only get DPW in NY (not sure how high Boies goes, but 21 interview spots might go quick).

[RodneyRuxin]

Not commenting overall, but you might only get DPW in NY (not sure how high Boies goes, but 21 interview spots might go quick).

I've heard Boies goes fast.

[Anonymous User]

Any critiques to this bidlist (last minute I know) would be helpful. KE/LR. Everything Chicago unless noted.

1) Susman (Houston) (16 shared slots)
2) Sidley (84)
3) Kirkland (84)
4) Jenner (63)
5) Latham (50)
6) Perkins Coie (21)
7) Jones Day (42)
Skadden (84)
9) Paul Hastings (26)
10) Williams and Connelly (DC) (38)
11) Munger Tolles Olson (LA) (42)
12) Grippo and Elden (21)
13) Barack Ferrazzano (42)
14) Irell (LA) (42)
15) AZA (Houston) (21)
16) Wilson Sonsini (Palo Alto) (42 shared)
17) Eimer Stahl (21)
18) Gibson Dunn (Palo Alto) (42 shared)
19) McDermott (63)
20) Wachtell (42)

Particular questions I have are
1) Whether I should flip Paul Hastings and Jones Day to increase the likelihood of getting the former
2) Whether I could flip Grippo and Elden and Skadden and still (probably) get the latter.
3) If the selectivity of Williams and Connelly and Munger Tolles makes it safe to bid them that low or if they need to be higher.

Also yes this is geographically scattered; I know but I think it'll be ok.

Thanks so much!

[Mad Hatter]

Not commenting overall, but you might only get DPW in NY (not sure how high Boies goes, but 21 interview spots might go quick).

I've heard Boies goes fast.

Makes sense. Dat 174k base.

[Emma.]

Any critiques to this bidlist (last minute I know) would be helpful. KE/LR. Everything Chicago unless noted.

1) Susman (Houston) (16 shared slots)
2) Sidley (84)
3) Kirkland (84)
4) Jenner (63)
5) Latham (50)
6) Perkins Coie (21)
7) Jones Day (42)
Skadden (84)
9) Paul Hastings (26)
10) Williams and Connelly (DC) (38)
11) Munger Tolles Olson (LA) (42)
12) Grippo and Elden (21)
13) Barack Ferrazzano (42)
14) Irell (LA) (42)
15) AZA (Houston) (21)
16) Wilson Sonsini (Palo Alto) (42 shared)
17) Eimer Stahl (21)
18) Gibson Dunn (Palo Alto) (42 shared)
19) McDermott (63)
20) Wachtell (42)

Particular questions I have are
1) Whether I should flip Paul Hastings and Jones Day to increase the likelihood of getting the former
2) Whether I could flip Grippo and Elden and Skadden and still (probably) get the latter.
3) If the selectivity of Williams and Connelly and Munger Tolles makes it safe to bid them that low or if they need to be higher.

Also yes this is geographically scattered; I know but I think it'll be ok.

Thanks so much!

You are going to HATE the scattershot geography when you are dealing with scheduling callbacks in 5 markets while also dealing with TPs and TAs for LR.

[Haymarket]

Any critiques to this bidlist (last minute I know) would be helpful. KE/LR. Everything Chicago unless noted.

1) Susman (Houston) (16 shared slots)
2) Sidley (84)
3) Kirkland (84)
4) Jenner (63)
5) Latham (50)
6) Perkins Coie (21)
7) Jones Day (42)
Skadden (84)
9) Paul Hastings (26)
10) Williams and Connelly (DC) (38)
11) Munger Tolles Olson (LA) (42)
12) Grippo and Elden (21)
13) Barack Ferrazzano (42)
14) Irell (LA) (42)
15) AZA (Houston) (21)
16) Wilson Sonsini (Palo Alto) (42 shared)
17) Eimer Stahl (21)
18) Gibson Dunn (Palo Alto) (42 shared)
19) McDermott (63)
20) Wachtell (42)

Particular questions I have are
1) Whether I should flip Paul Hastings and Jones Day to increase the likelihood of getting the former
2) Whether I could flip Grippo and Elden and Skadden and still (probably) get the latter.
3) If the selectivity of Williams and Connelly and Munger Tolles makes it safe to bid them that low or if they need to be higher.

Also yes this is geographically scattered; I know but I think it'll be ok.

Thanks so much!

You are going to HATE the scattershot geography when you are dealing with scheduling callbacks in 5 markets while also dealing with TPs and TAs for LR.

There's also a decent chance you'll get stuck with one (or even two) cite checks for LR during the second week of OCI or call back time.

[AspiringAcademic]

Do we know when we find out how the bidding went? I can't seem to find the information in my back-emails.

[2014]

I think it has taken as much as a week in past years. Seems ridiculous though, it's all done by a computer.

[Xifeng]

Ours were available August 9 last year.

[Mad Hatter]

Do we know when we find out how the bidding went? I can't seem to find the information in my back-emails.

The important dates handout says August 8th, but it's probably later now that bidding was extended and reopened.

[Anonymous User]

When you bid multiple offices of a firm and get an interview for one of the offices, can the firm see the other office(s) you bid?

Depends if the firm has listed "no multiple interviews"(latham) or chose the two offices to be treated as two separate firms(Kirkland).

If it's the former, then the interviewer will see. If it's the latter, then I think it depends on the firm and whether or not they're communicating b/w offices.

If a firm is listed as "no multiple interviews" (e.g. Latham) and you get a screener for Office B but not Office A in the lottery, can you still be considered for Office A if it's your first choice?

[Mad Hatter]

If a firm is listed as "no multiple interviews" (e.g. Latham) and you get a screener for Office B but not Office A in the lottery, can you still be considered for Office A if it's your first choice?

Probably depends on the firm (I don't see any OCI policy/rules addressing the point), but this would seem to defeat the purpose of listing multiple offices. At any rate, you would be interviewing with their people from City X for City Y. What would you do, tell them how awesome City Y is?

[RodneyRuxin]

Do we know when we find out how the bidding went? I can't seem to find the information in my back-emails.

The important dates handout says August 8th, but it's probably later now that bidding was extended and reopened.

I heard Woo confirmed August 8th after bidding was reopened. We'll see if that still happens.