UChicago OCI 2014 Forum

[WheninLaw]

Hi everyone. Here is another bid list that I need some urgent help with since I just found out about the information here and apparently I've been doing it all wrong. I have a 175.8 GPA, and am a non-URM with no past substantial work experience. I lived in DC for two years when I was in high school, however, so I am hoping to work those ties. I am mainly interested in doing litigation in DC. Here is the bid list that I originally made, but a friend just told me that I should probably switch some things up. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if I am not providing the information in the correct format. Lastly, all of the firms listed below are the DC office unless otherwise stated.

1 - Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (5)
2 - Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP (21)
3 - Dechert LLP (21)
4 - Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton LLP (21)
5 - Susman Godfrey LLP (19) - New York
6 - Foley & Lardner LLP (42)
7 - Kirkland & Ellis LLP (21)
8 - Morrison & Foerster LLP (21) - San Francisco
9 - BakerHostetler (16)
10 - White & Case LLP (21)
11 - Jenner & Block LLP (21)
12 - Ropes & Gray LLP (42)
13 - Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP (21)
14 - Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (38)
15 - Baker Botts LLP (21)
16 - Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (21)
17 - Latham & Watkins (31)
18 - Simpson Thacher & Bartlett (3)
19 - Crowell & Moring L.L.P. (21)
20 - Sidley Austin LLP (21)
21 - Paul Hastings LLP (4)
22 - Mayer Brown LLP (21)
23 - Holland & Knight LLP (11)
24 - Steptoe & Johnson LLP (18)
25 - Williams & Connolly (38)

Sorry to bother you all with this so late in the game, but the deadline is tomorrow.

You need to change this, ASAP, as it's heading towards striking out. Take a look at the GPA figures- DC is HARD to get. Even LR people are not a sure thing by any means. I'd bid mostly NY with a couple of "easier" DC firms thrown in. You could bid them pretty late, since DC often does not fill. W/R/T specific firms:

1. Pillsbury will have a TINY summer class.
2. Susman generally takes 181+, and in some years, nobody. You have 0 shot.
3. Depending on SF interest, might need to move MOFO up.
4. GDC DC is absolutely not happening.
5. Williams & Connolly is not happening.

edit: seriously, bid NY. I worry about that GPA in any market.

[Anonymous User]

Is there any point to spending a lot of time on firms past 30 and trying to be strategic?? Or is it pretty much just random?

[Anonymous User]

Is anyone having trouble placing bids? It was fine for my first two and now symplicity is sending me to the "review" page when I choose a number and when I leave that page the bid is not recording. Or should I be clicking "apply" on the review page?

[Mal Reynolds]

Is anyone having trouble placing bids? It was fine for my first two and now symplicity is sending me to the "review" page when I choose a number and when I leave that page the bid is not recording. Or should I be clicking "apply" on the review page?

Click apply or update or whatever. It will lock in the bid. I've just been doing straight to that page to save time.

[Anonymous User]

Lock in as in I can't change it? Or lock in as in place the bid?

[Mal Reynolds]

Lock in as in I can't change it? Or lock in as in place the bid?

Place the bid. You can change it whenever you want.

[Anonymous User]

Hi everyone. Here is another bid list that I need some urgent help with since I just found out about the information here and apparently I've been doing it all wrong. I have a 175.8 GPA, and am a non-URM with no past substantial work experience. I lived in DC for two years when I was in high school, however, so I am hoping to work those ties. I am mainly interested in doing litigation in DC. Here is the bid list that I originally made, but a friend just told me that I should probably switch some things up. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if I am not providing the information in the correct format. Lastly, all of the firms listed below are the DC office unless otherwise stated.

1 - Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (5)
2 - Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP (21)
3 - Dechert LLP (21)
4 - Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton LLP (21)
5 - Susman Godfrey LLP (19) - New York
6 - Foley & Lardner LLP (42)
7 - Kirkland & Ellis LLP (21)
8 - Morrison & Foerster LLP (21) - San Francisco
9 - BakerHostetler (16)
10 - White & Case LLP (21)
11 - Jenner & Block LLP (21)
12 - Ropes & Gray LLP (42)
13 - Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP (21)
14 - Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (38)
15 - Baker Botts LLP (21)
16 - Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (21)
17 - Latham & Watkins (31)
18 - Simpson Thacher & Bartlett (3)
19 - Crowell & Moring L.L.P. (21)
20 - Sidley Austin LLP (21)
21 - Paul Hastings LLP (4)
22 - Mayer Brown LLP (21)
23 - Holland & Knight LLP (11)
24 - Steptoe & Johnson LLP (18)
25 - Williams & Connolly (38)

Sorry to bother you all with this so late in the game, but the deadline is tomorrow.

You need to change this, ASAP, as it's heading towards striking out. Take a look at the GPA figures- DC is HARD to get. Even LR people are not a sure thing by any means. I'd bid mostly NY with a couple of "easier" DC firms thrown in. You could bid them pretty late, since DC often does not fill. W/R/T specific firms:

1. Pillsbury will have a TINY summer class.
2. Susman generally takes 181+, and in some years, nobody. You have 0 shot.
3. Depending on SF interest, might need to move MOFO up.
4. GDC DC is absolutely not happening.
5. Williams & Connolly is not happening.

edit: seriously, bid NY. I worry about that GPA in any market.

Nothing to contribute directly, but a friend said her friend who works for Pillsbury DC got the job because of stellar work experience and said that they really care about significant work experience

Also, mofo sf will be hard without a hard science degree or heavy ties to sf

[Emma.]

Hi everyone. Here is another bid list that I need some urgent help with since I just found out about the information here and apparently I've been doing it all wrong. I have a 175.8 GPA, and am a non-URM with no past substantial work experience. I lived in DC for two years when I was in high school, however, so I am hoping to work those ties. I am mainly interested in doing litigation in DC. Here is the bid list that I originally made, but a friend just told me that I should probably switch some things up. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if I am not providing the information in the correct format. Lastly, all of the firms listed below are the DC office unless otherwise stated.

1 - Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (5)
2 - Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP (21)
3 - Dechert LLP (21)
4 - Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton LLP (21)
5 - Susman Godfrey LLP (19) - New York
6 - Foley & Lardner LLP (42)
7 - Kirkland & Ellis LLP (21)
8 - Morrison & Foerster LLP (21) - San Francisco
9 - BakerHostetler (16)
10 - White & Case LLP (21)
11 - Jenner & Block LLP (21)
12 - Ropes & Gray LLP (42)
13 - Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP (21)
14 - Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (38)
15 - Baker Botts LLP (21)
16 - Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (21)
17 - Latham & Watkins (31)
18 - Simpson Thacher & Bartlett (3)
19 - Crowell & Moring L.L.P. (21)
20 - Sidley Austin LLP (21)
21 - Paul Hastings LLP (4)
22 - Mayer Brown LLP (21)
23 - Holland & Knight LLP (11)
24 - Steptoe & Johnson LLP (18)
25 - Williams & Connolly (38)

Sorry to bother you all with this so late in the game, but the deadline is tomorrow.

You need to change this, ASAP, as it's heading towards striking out. Take a look at the GPA figures- DC is HARD to get. Even LR people are not a sure thing by any means. I'd bid mostly NY with a couple of "easier" DC firms thrown in. You could bid them pretty late, since DC often does not fill. W/R/T specific firms:

1. Pillsbury will have a TINY summer class.
2. Susman generally takes 181+, and in some years, nobody. You have 0 shot.
3. Depending on SF interest, might need to move MOFO up.
4. GDC DC is absolutely not happening.
5. Williams & Connolly is not happening.

edit: seriously, bid NY. I worry about that GPA in any market.

The bolded.

[Anonymous User]

Hi everyone. Here is another bid list that I need some urgent help with since I just found out about the information here and apparently I've been doing it all wrong. I have a 175.8 GPA, and am a non-URM with no past substantial work experience. I lived in DC for two years when I was in high school, however, so I am hoping to work those ties. I am mainly interested in doing litigation in DC. Here is the bid list that I originally made, but a friend just told me that I should probably switch some things up. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if I am not providing the information in the correct format. Lastly, all of the firms listed below are the DC office unless otherwise stated.

1 - Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (5)
2 - Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP (21)
3 - Dechert LLP (21)
4 - Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton LLP (21)
5 - Susman Godfrey LLP (19) - New York
6 - Foley & Lardner LLP (42)
7 - Kirkland & Ellis LLP (21)
8 - Morrison & Foerster LLP (21) - San Francisco
9 - BakerHostetler (16)
10 - White & Case LLP (21)
11 - Jenner & Block LLP (21)
12 - Ropes & Gray LLP (42)
13 - Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP (21)
14 - Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (38)
15 - Baker Botts LLP (21)
16 - Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (21)
17 - Latham & Watkins (31)
18 - Simpson Thacher & Bartlett (3)
19 - Crowell & Moring L.L.P. (21)
20 - Sidley Austin LLP (21)
21 - Paul Hastings LLP (4)
22 - Mayer Brown LLP (21)
23 - Holland & Knight LLP (11)
24 - Steptoe & Johnson LLP (18)
25 - Williams & Connolly (38)

Sorry to bother you all with this so late in the game, but the deadline is tomorrow.

You need to change this, ASAP, as it's heading towards striking out. Take a look at the GPA figures- DC is HARD to get. Even LR people are not a sure thing by any means. I'd bid mostly NY with a couple of "easier" DC firms thrown in. You could bid them pretty late, since DC often does not fill. W/R/T specific firms:

1. Pillsbury will have a TINY summer class.
2. Susman generally takes 181+, and in some years, nobody. You have 0 shot.
3. Depending on SF interest, might need to move MOFO up.
4. GDC DC is absolutely not happening.
5. Williams & Connolly is not happening.

edit: seriously, bid NY. I worry about that GPA in any market.

The bolded.

Thanks everyone for the input. Unfortunately, I am not very interested in working in New York, and since Susman sounds like it is a waste of a bid, I went ahead and just removed it. I don't think I will strike out because I have a great personality that should stand out during interviews and make up for my grades. I really enjoyed living in DC previously and they do all the kind of work I am interested in there, so I am going to stick with my bid list and see what happens.

[Mal Reynolds]

Lol

[Anonymous User]

Lol

Why is it funny that someone doesn't want to work in New York? This comment seems uncalled for. I cannot believe how mean classmates can be on this site.

[Mal Reynolds]

Because thinking you're going to work at Williams and Connolly due to your bright personality is crazy talk.

[Robb]

Lol

Why is it funny that someone doesn't want to work in New York? This comment seems uncalled for. I cannot believe how mean classmates can be on this site.

I'm pretty sure this was in response to

I don't think I will strike out because I have a great personality that should stand out during interviews and make up for my grades. I really enjoyed living in DC previously and they do all the kind of work I am interested in there, so I am going to stick with my bid list and see what happens.

Lots of people don't want to work in New York, myself included. (Though, even for me, strongly anti-New York, I would prefer working there to unemployment.)

Not that I disagree that people often say things that are uncalled for on TLS

[Anonymous User]

Because thinking you're going to work at Williams and Connolly due to your bright personality is crazy talk.

If you aren't confident with yourself then you don't have to bid like me, but I am confident in my ability to show that grades aren't everything.

[WheninLaw]

Thanks everyone for the input. Unfortunately, I am not very interested in working in New York, and since Susman sounds like it is a waste of a bid, I went ahead and just removed it. I don't think I will strike out because I have a great personality that should stand out during interviews and make up for my grades. I really enjoyed living in DC previously and they do all the kind of work I am interested in there, so I am going to stick with my bid list and see what happens.

At this point, convinced poster is troll. Are you next going to tell us you're interested primarily in appellate lit?

Fairly WTF to call us mean because we want you to succeed.

[Mal Reynolds]

Coming on to TLS just to ignore the advice you're been given happens a lot. I truly hope you do well. I really do. But I think you're missing out on a huge employment opportunity bidding the way you are.

[Anonymous User]

Thanks everyone for the input. Unfortunately, I am not very interested in working in New York, and since Susman sounds like it is a waste of a bid, I went ahead and just removed it. I don't think I will strike out because I have a great personality that should stand out during interviews and make up for my grades. I really enjoyed living in DC previously and they do all the kind of work I am interested in there, so I am going to stick with my bid list and see what happens.

just a heads up; i know another person bidding 8 of your top 10 with a better grades and 2 years of legal work experience. also, many non-chicago/nyc firms have said that they rarely save spots for schools that recruit as late as us, and the only other school that recruits this late is stanford.

[Emma.]

Thanks everyone for the input. Unfortunately, I am not very interested in working in New York, and since Susman sounds like it is a waste of a bid, I went ahead and just removed it. I don't think I will strike out because I have a great personality that should stand out during interviews and make up for my grades. I really enjoyed living in DC previously and they do all the kind of work I am interested in there, so I am going to stick with my bid list and see what happens.

just a heads up; i know another person bidding 8 of your top 10 with a better grades and 2 years of legal work experience. also, many non-chicago/nyc firms have said that they rarely save spots for schools that recruit as late as us, and the only other school that recruits this late is stanford.

Someone my year with soild w/e, good social skills etc and a GPA two full points above yours only landed a single callback in DC.

[06102016]

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[Mal Reynolds]

Glad we cleared that up. Also that wasn't funny. Stop risking people getting sick of this thread and not posting advice.

[Danny Mothers]

Hi everyone. Here is another bid list that I need some urgent help with since I just found out about the information here and apparently I've been doing it all wrong. I have a 175.8 GPA, and am a non-URM with no past substantial work experience. I lived in DC for two years when I was in high school, however, so I am hoping to work those ties. I am mainly interested in doing litigation in DC. Here is the bid list that I originally made, but a friend just told me that I should probably switch some things up. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if I am not providing the information in the correct format. Lastly, all of the firms listed below are the DC office unless otherwise stated.

1 - Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (5)
2 - Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP (21)
3 - Dechert LLP (21)
4 - Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton LLP (21)
5 - Susman Godfrey LLP (19) - New York
6 - Foley & Lardner LLP (42)
7 - Kirkland & Ellis LLP (21)
8 - Morrison & Foerster LLP (21) - San Francisco
9 - BakerHostetler (16)
10 - White & Case LLP (21)
11 - Jenner & Block LLP (21)
12 - Ropes & Gray LLP (42)
13 - Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP (21)
14 - Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (38)
15 - Baker Botts LLP (21)
16 - Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (21)
17 - Latham & Watkins (31)
18 - Simpson Thacher & Bartlett (3)
19 - Crowell & Moring L.L.P. (21)
20 - Sidley Austin LLP (21)
21 - Paul Hastings LLP (4)
22 - Mayer Brown LLP (21)
23 - Holland & Knight LLP (11)
24 - Steptoe & Johnson LLP (18)
25 - Williams & Connolly (38)

Sorry to bother you all with this so late in the game, but the deadline is tomorrow.

Probably a troll. But just in case--you are going to strike out with this bidlist. A 186 personality will only take you so far averaged against that bleak of a 1L record. Face it: your grades are bad. Time to move past 0L ambitions and take what you can get.

[06102016]

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[Mal Reynolds]

Glad we cleared that up. Also that wasn't funny. Stop risking people getting sick of this thread and not posting advice.

[Crowing]

Ignore that poster.

It is a troll.

Thanks for that.

[Neal Patrick Harris]

Is there any point to spending a lot of time on firms past 30 and trying to be strategic?? Or is it pretty much just random?

There is literally 0 reason to not try to be strategic. What could you possibly be doing right now?