"I'd like to work in biglaw for a while..." Forum

[84651846190]

Most K-JD types don't understand exactly how long 2-3 years is. There's no such thing as "just" 2-3 years at a job you don't like.

Yea, but if you tell yourself you're only going to be there 2-3 years it gets a lot more tolerable. You quickly learn how to say no to assignments and bill 2000 a year on the dot. I'm not at that point yet, but I know several people who are and they don't really mind the bigfirm world.

Do people ever just try and get themselves fired and then collect unemployment for a while?

Yes. I know someone who hasn't been seen in the office for 7+ months and is still (apparently) employed by the firm. He might be billing up a storm from his house, but I doubt it. Every time I work from home I'm like, *doc review for 10-15 minutes* *porn* *taquitos* *watch beheading videos for like 4 hours* *5-10 minutes of doc review* *get ready for bed*.

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[Old Gregg]

If you don't plan to stay long term, doing biglaw at 1800 hours a year is awesome. No better job for the money.

[09042014]

Most K-JD types don't understand exactly how long 2-3 years is. There's no such thing as "just" 2-3 years at a job you don't like.

Yea, but if you tell yourself you're only going to be there 2-3 years it gets a lot more tolerable. You quickly learn how to say no to assignments and bill 2000 a year on the dot. I'm not at that point yet, but I know several people who are and they don't really mind the bigfirm world.

Do people ever just try and get themselves fired and then collect unemployment for a while?

Yes. I know someone who hasn't been seen in the office for 7+ months and is still (apparently) employed by the firm. He might be billing up a storm from his house, but I doubt it. Every time I work from home I'm like, *doc review for 10-15 minutes* *porn* *taquitos* *watch beheading videos for like 4 hours* *5-10 minutes of doc review* *get ready for bed*.

*Bills 6 hours*
*gets an attaboy from your boss*

[sublime]

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[patogordo]

If you don't plan to stay long term, doing biglaw at 1800 hours a year is awesome. No better job for the money.

Could you elaborate on the environment and work life balance at these types of firms
The market I am targeting starts at 1850.

i think he means just underbill until you get fired

[Old Gregg]

If you don't plan to stay long term, doing biglaw at 1800 hours a year is awesome. No better job for the money.

Could you elaborate on the environment and work life balance at these types of firms
The market I am targeting starts at 1850.

It's at all types of firms except the super small ones where you can't hide.

[sublime]

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[Anonymous User]

If you actually have to bill in the 1850 range it is completely manageable.

[Old Gregg]

Ok. My bad, I misunderstood.

There just seems to be a lack of information about firms like that in secondary markets with lower billables. Specifically how similar it is to big law in major markets.

Some associates I interviewed with said it wasn't that bad, but of
course they did. So Idk.

You're misunderstanding me. I don't think billing 1800 hours is Ok at major law firms. I'm just saying it's ok if you have no desire to make partner.

[ChardPennington]

The best thing I've found was to force myself to become a morning person. For some reason a 7-6 day is tons more doable than a 9-8

[patogordo]

The best thing I've found was to force myself to become a morning person. For some reason a 7-6 day is tons more doable than a 9-8

if i had to wake up at 7am every day i would start considering some irreversible exit options

[ChardPennington]

The best thing I've found was to force myself to become a morning person. For some reason a 7-6 day is tons more doable than a 9-8

if i had to wake up at 7am every day i would start considering some irreversible exit options

I wake up at 5 bro. Gotta lift too.

[nygrrrl]

The best thing I've found was to force myself to become a morning person. For some reason a 7-6 day is tons more doable than a 9-8

if i had to wake up at 7am every day i would start considering some irreversible exit options

Don't have kids.
See also Chard's post about lifiting. Cuz ya gotta lift/run/bike/something.

[Big Shrimpin]

Most K-JD types don't understand exactly how long 2-3 years is. There's no such thing as "just" 2-3 years at a job you don't like.

Yea, but if you tell yourself you're only going to be there 2-3 years it gets a lot more tolerable. You quickly learn how to say no to assignments and bill 2000 a year on the dot. I'm not at that point yet, but I know several people who are and they don't really mind the bigfirm world.

Do people ever just try and get themselves fired and then collect unemployment for a while?

Yes. I know someone who hasn't been seen in the office for 7+ months and is still (apparently) employed by the firm. He might be billing up a storm from his house, but I doubt it. Every time I work from home I'm like, *doc review for 10-15 minutes* *porn* *taquitos* *watch beheading videos for like 4 hours* *5-10 minutes of doc review* *get ready for bed*.

TSO difficult to work from home. This is why I just suck it up and go to the office.

[jd20132013]

The best thing I've found was to force myself to become a morning person. For some reason a 7-6 day is tons more doable than a 9-8

if i had to wake up at 7am every day i would start considering some irreversible exit options

I wake up at 5 bro. Gotta lift too.

so you've been able to keep a regular workout schedule by waking up that early?

[patogordo]

The best thing I've found was to force myself to become a morning person. For some reason a 7-6 day is tons more doable than a 9-8

if i had to wake up at 7am every day i would start considering some irreversible exit options

Don't have kids.
See also Chard's post about lifiting. Cuz ya gotta lift/run/bike/something.

would literally rather die

[PepperJack]

Success breeds confidence, and the people in this thread have succeeded in terms of getting into a top law school, doing well enough in law school to get big law and doing well enough in big law to stay in big law. Therefore, it's only human nature to think "If I beat the odds in this then I could've done it in something else that pays more and has less shit." This is probably true for some, and probably false for others. I think many people who go into big law aspiring to last for as long as possible are operating under the logic that "the odds of me doing this well in anything else are low enough to justify me not complaining about most things I'd otherwise complain about." Like anything else that's stressful and life-devoting, I'm sure you increasingly second guess it. But instead of blasting about how badly your coworkers suck on a public forum maybe it'd be more prosocial to just speak to your shrink about it.

[brotherdarkness]

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[nygrrrl]

Success breeds confidence, and the people in this thread have succeeded in terms of getting into a top law school, doing well enough in law school to get big law and doing well enough in big law to stay in big law. Therefore, it's only human nature to think "If I beat the odds in this then I could've done it in something else that pays more and has less shit." This is probably true for some, and probably false for others. I think many people who go into big law aspiring to last for as long as possible are operating under the logic that "the odds of me doing this well in anything else are low enough to justify me not complaining about most things I'd otherwise complain about." Like anything else that's stressful and life-devoting, I'm sure you increasingly second guess it. But instead of blasting about how badly your coworkers suck on a public forum maybe it'd be more prosocial to just speak to your shrink about it.

Seeing a shrink would cut into your billables.

Although I do know at least one firm in NYC that keeps a shrink on staff, to cut down on the travel time lost.

[ChardPennington]

Success breeds confidence, and the people in this thread have succeeded in terms of getting into a top law school, doing well enough in law school to get big law and doing well enough in big law to stay in big law. Therefore, it's only human nature to think "If I beat the odds in this then I could've done it in something else that pays more and has less shit." This is probably true for some, and probably false for others. I think many people who go into big law aspiring to last for as long as possible are operating under the logic that "the odds of me doing this well in anything else are low enough to justify me not complaining about most things I'd otherwise complain about." Like anything else that's stressful and life-devoting, I'm sure you increasingly second guess it. But instead of blasting about how badly your coworkers suck on a public forum maybe it'd be more prosocial to just speak to your shrink about it.

Prosocial?

Be honest: Are you a pick-up artist?

[84651846190]

Success breeds confidence, and the people in this thread have succeeded in terms of getting into a top law school, doing well enough in law school to get big law and doing well enough in big law to stay in big law. Therefore, it's only human nature to think "If I beat the odds in this then I could've done it in something else that pays more and has less shit." This is probably true for some, and probably false for others. I think many people who go into big law aspiring to last for as long as possible are operating under the logic that "the odds of me doing this well in anything else are low enough to justify me not complaining about most things I'd otherwise complain about." Like anything else that's stressful and life-devoting, I'm sure you increasingly second guess it. But instead of blasting about how badly your coworkers suck on a public forum maybe it'd be more prosocial to just speak to your shrink about it.

The Internet is my shrink.

[Blindmelon]

Success breeds confidence, and the people in this thread have succeeded in terms of getting into a top law school, doing well enough in law school to get big law and doing well enough in big law to stay in big law. Therefore, it's only human nature to think "If I beat the odds in this then I could've done it in something else that pays more and has less shit." This is probably true for some, and probably false for others. I think many people who go into big law aspiring to last for as long as possible are operating under the logic that "the odds of me doing this well in anything else are low enough to justify me not complaining about most things I'd otherwise complain about." Like anything else that's stressful and life-devoting, I'm sure you increasingly second guess it. But instead of blasting about how badly your coworkers suck on a public forum maybe it'd be more prosocial to just speak to your shrink about it.

Seeing a shrink would cut into your billables.

Bingo. Just be like everyone else in biglaw and go on anti-depressants.

[Dr. Mantis Toboggan]

lol at thinking waking up before 7 am is hard

[PepperJack]

Most K-JD types don't understand exactly how long 2-3 years is. There's no such thing as "just" 2-3 years at a job you don't like.

Yea, but if you tell yourself you're only going to be there 2-3 years it gets a lot more tolerable. You quickly learn how to say no to assignments and bill 2000 a year on the dot. I'm not at that point yet, but I know several people who are and they don't really mind the bigfirm world.

Do people ever just try and get themselves fired and then collect unemployment for a while?

Yes. I know someone who hasn't been seen in the office for 7+ months and is still (apparently) employed by the firm. He might be billing up a storm from his house, but I doubt it. Every time I work from home I'm like, *doc review for 10-15 minutes* *porn* *taquitos* *watch beheading videos for like 4 hours* *5-10 minutes of doc review* *get ready for bed*.

The big problem with big law isn't the hours, but the other people you have to deal with. I mean, clearly you're the normal one watching beheading videos for 4 hours in your free time. It's all the antisocial people who watch basketball who are such weirdos. Who watches basketball? Weirdos.

And to Mr. Pennington, I'm not a pickup artist. I'm just not the type who complains about the people I see everyday on a public forum, and says it's worth changing your career over. Why not try to see the good in people or just ignore them?

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