Firms without billable hours? Forum

[tengorazon]

There are some firms that don't have minimum billables (e.g., W&C), but everyone bills.

There is still a minimum, dude.

Yeah, they just don't tell you what it is until you're below it and they're showing you the door.

Do they even hire people at W&C who wouldn't naturally, and without any coercion or encouragement, work at least 1800 hours?

I find such a proposition highly unlikely.

As do I. Moreover, why would you interview there if you weren't willing to work 2300 hours a year? Their hours are well known. ::looks at TTT-LS::

[ToTransferOrNot]

You calling me a liar? Or just making fun of me? I'm fine with the latter, but not so much the former.

Does Wachtell really require that many hours over, say, a Cravath, or a Kirkland? 2300 billables vs 2200 or 2100, I recognize the difference, but the pay is almost twice as much, and partnership chances at Wachtell are higher than other V10s, yeah?

[TTT-LS]

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[underdawg]

You calling me a liar? Or just making fun of me? I'm fine with the latter, but not so much the former.

Does Wachtell really require that many hours over, say, a Cravath, or a Kirkland? 2300 billables vs 2200 or 2100, I recognize the difference, but the pay is almost twice as much, and partnership chances at Wachtell are higher than other V10s, yeah?

try 2700+ (at least that's what the author of ATL, who claims to be from wlrk says)

might be worth it in $/hr, but at some point, hours become crushing. i have heard nothing but great things about wlrk besides the hours.

anyway, i bet like 2 people on those board end up even getting a shot there anyway, so it's pretty m00t

[underdawg]

There are some firms that don't have minimum billables (e.g., W&C), but everyone bills.

There is still a minimum, dude.

Yeah, they just don't tell you what it is until you're below it and they're showing you the door.

Do they even hire people at W&C who wouldn't naturally, and without any coercion or encouragement, work at least 1800 hours?

I find such a proposition highly unlikely.

pretty sure any biglaw firm that promises ~1800 hours is flat out lying

maybe in recessions...in corporate....

at least in NYC

[tengorazon]

As do I. Moreover, why would you interview there if you weren't willing to work 2300 hours a year? Their hours are well known. ::looks at TTT-LS::

I actually didn't know about this reputation when I interviewed. I had heard great things about the summer program and about a few of their specific litigation practices, but that was really it. When I went for the callback, the attorneys I met seemed extremely bright, professional, and personable. Regardless, when a firm of the caliber of W&C invites you, my view is that you should go. That doesn't mean you are obliged to accept if they offer, but why not take a look under the hood to see whether it might be a good fit?

I suppose that's reasonable. I did something similar at WLRK. That said, I have friends at both places who love it.

[underdawg]

tell us if you got an offer there though

also why would you ask TTT why when you did the same exact thing?

[canceled02062010]

not sure if someone has said this, or if you are only asking about BIGLAW/DEFENSE, but plaintiff's firms are % of recoveries.

I think most are in the 33% range with a sliding scale downward if recoveries are less.

YOU EAT WHAT YOU KILL d00d.

HTH.

For the Post below mine:

i don't understand are you asking (me?) if it is normal at plaintiff's firms for more than one attorney to work on a case? Depends on the case, (slip and fall or wrongful death), the expected value (millions or a few hundred k), and the fight from the defendants and how many for that matter. Anyway profits are split, depending on who brings in the case, the largest chunk of the % will be split between the attorney who brought it in and the partners, then the rest of the firm. Profit sharing is complicated.

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[underdawg]

damn so each case must be worked on by like 2 attorneys?

[tengorazon]

tell us if you got an offer there though

also why would you ask TTT why when you did the same exact thing?

Because my reason for not going had nothing to do with the hours, which he gave as his reason for not going to W&C.