Kirkland (NY) vs V30 (London) Forum

[Anonymous User]

I work at KE and work with a lot of NY people. Maybe I'm just so entrenched in the system that KE just feels "normal" but the anecdotes about it being this uber-competitive place just come off as extremely misinformed. It's a demanding work environment and people do put in a lot of hours -- I also get drinks with my coworkers and most people are pretty friendly, chat in the halls, etc., so maybe I'm just in a decent group (and have been for years) but the general reputation of the place (at least, internally) bandied about on online forums is contrary to my experience.

Are any of the practices particularly notorious from an insider perspective? Any screamer partners?

[Anonymous User]

Was curious, so pulled EIP data from my year. This is % of offers given to students with "honors" after 1L (NY offices only):

WLRK: 100%
Sullivan & Cromwell: 100%
Cravath: 92%
Paul, Weiss: 92%
Latham: 92%
Davis Polk: 91%
Skadden: 91%
Simpson Thacher: 86%
Cleary: 80%
Gibson Dunn: 71%
Kirkland (aggregating IP, "general," corporate-specific): 43%

Seems like -- to the extent that this matters, which maybe it doesn't -- Kirkland NY is much less grade selective than its peers. At least my year.

Again, not sure if this actually "matters." But it's consistent w/mine, and others, anecdotal experiences at least.

What is the % for Kirkland NY when all practice groups are included? Seems kinda unfair to exclude litigation and other groups for Kirkland but not all the others. Still assuming it's at or near the bottom though.

43%. this includes everything.

[dyemond]

I work at KE and work with a lot of NY people. Maybe I'm just so entrenched in the system that KE just feels "normal" but the anecdotes about it being this uber-competitive place just come off as extremely misinformed. It's a demanding work environment and people do put in a lot of hours -- I also get drinks with my coworkers and most people are pretty friendly, chat in the halls, etc., so maybe I'm just in a decent group (and have been for years) but the general reputation of the place (at least, internally) bandied about on online forums is contrary to my experience.

Are any of the practices particularly notorious from an insider perspective? Any screamer partners?

Can honestly say I've personally never encountered a screamer (nor am I aware of any). Can also say that I don't know of any groups that are particularly notorious, but I mostly work with NY/Chi/CA.

The free market system creates serious downside for being unpleasant to work with -- if someone doesn't jive with your style, you simply don't pick up their matters, it's not like a central staffing system where you're just put on a deal, partners have to work the phones/email to find who has time and interest.

[Anonymous User]

I work at KE and work with a lot of NY people. Maybe I'm just so entrenched in the system that KE just feels "normal" but the anecdotes about it being this uber-competitive place just come off as extremely misinformed. It's a demanding work environment and people do put in a lot of hours -- I also get drinks with my coworkers and most people are pretty friendly, chat in the halls, etc., so maybe I'm just in a decent group (and have been for years) but the general reputation of the place (at least, internally) bandied about on online forums is contrary to my experience.

Are any of the practices particularly notorious from an insider perspective? Any screamer partners?

Can honestly say I've personally never encountered a screamer (nor am I aware of any). Can also say that I don't know of any groups that are particularly notorious, but I mostly work with NY/Chi/CA.

The free market system creates serious downside for being unpleasant to work with -- if someone doesn't jive with your style, you simply don't pick up their matters, it's not like a central staffing system where you're just put on a deal, partners have to work the phones/email to find who has time and interest.

Does it create a downside for being a bit more on the introverted side as well in your opinion? I can imagine it must be harder to thrive in the free market environment if you're just not all that sociable (or rather, don't enjoy being sociable).

By the way, if you don't mind me asking, what made you choose Kirkland above other firms?