Delta Variant and Reopening plans Forum

[marquinm]

Any movement today?

[Burgkid808]

Bump - we should really be talking about this!!

New junior wondering when I should think about making the leap to the city- If there is another thread please link

[Anonymous User]

Weil is pushing back from September 7 to a TBD date, with two weeks heads up once they decide to reopen. Wish it was a longer heads up than two weeks but guess I can't complain, glad they're being proactive about it.

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland just pushed back to November 8th.

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland just pushed back to November 8th.

Yep, originally this was the day after Labor Day, so a 2 month bump.

[gontid]

Kirkland just pushed back to November 8th.

Can't see things getting better in November. Sigh.

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland just pushed back to November 8th.

Can't see things getting better in November. Sigh.

I think this gives Kirkland the opportunity to re-evaluate in October and then postpone a second time depending on how things are looking then.

[Anonymous User]

Given that the Delta variant is so contagious, I doubt things will get any better in the winter. We could get rid of this virus for good if everyone could just stay home for 14 days without going anywhere. But that's just not possible.

[Anonymous User]

Given that the Delta variant is so contagious, I doubt things will get any better in the winter. We could get rid of this virus for good if everyone could just stay home for 14 days without going anywhere. But that's just not possible.

No you can’t, the virus has animal reservoirs. People need to seriously give up on trying to get rid of the virus.

[Anonymous User]

Davis Polk just sent an email to incoming associates about mandatory vaccination for return to office on 9/13

[Anonymous User]

Davis Polk just sent an email to incoming associates about mandatory vaccination for return to office on 9/13

I am surprised that the market is not coalescing around pushing back return to office dates in light of Delta. Does anyone have a chart/article tracking which firms had a September return-to-office plan and then pushed back to October/November?

Not that competing on a return-to-office date makes a firm more attractive to laterals, it is nothing like compensation. However, if a firm keeps steadfast on its September date, only to pushback to Oct/Nov at the last minute (or even worse, after whatever mandatory return date is set), then I can see that creating a lot of angry associates.

Signed, a v25 associate whose firm previously announced a September return date. Actively avoiding signing a new lease until it is 100% certain that my butt needs to be in my seat in September.

[Anonymous User]

Davis Polk just sent an email to incoming associates about mandatory vaccination for return to office on 9/13

STB sent something similar yesterday. Vaccine mandate for anyone coming in to the office.

[Anonymous User]

Sidley return pushed back to October 12 at the earliest (had been early September)

[Anonymous User]

Hogan pushed from September 13 to November 1 (announced yesterday)

[Anonymous User]

Hogan pushed from September 13 to November 1 (announced yesterday)

Skadden affirmed Sept 13 re-opening but also now mandates vaccines.

[Anonymous User]

Davis Polk just sent an email to incoming associates about mandatory vaccination for return to office on 9/13

STB sent something similar yesterday. Vaccine mandate for anyone coming in to the office.

Question on STB - how serious does the firm taking face time (in other words, do STB associates work from home during regular times or not at all)? Trying to get a sense of how seriously STB will treat this September return.

[Anonymous User]

What are the chances reopening gets postponed until January? What are people hearing?

[Anonymous User]

What are the chances reopening gets postponed until January? What are people hearing?

I feel like for firms that are pushing back from September, they just won’t reopen until the spring. Nothing is going to happen between September and spring that will make any of this better if you’re taking the position that everyone being vaccinated isn’t enough.

[Anonymous User]

What are the chances reopening gets postponed until January? What are people hearing?

I feel like for firms that are pushing back from September, they just won’t reopen until the spring. Nothing is going to happen between September and spring that will make any of this better if you’re taking the position that everyone being vaccinated isn’t enough.

I could also see some of these delaying firms announce in October that they’ll reopen in January and vaccinations are required. I have a hard time seeing how a vaccine requirement would lose them any associates; surely substantially all biglaw associated have been vaxxed or would do so if it was an employment requirement.

[Anonymous User]

What are the chances reopening gets postponed until January? What are people hearing?

I feel like for firms that are pushing back from September, they just won’t reopen until the spring. Nothing is going to happen between September and spring that will make any of this better if you’re taking the position that everyone being vaccinated isn’t enough.

I could also see some of these delaying firms announce in October that they’ll reopen in January and vaccinations are required. I have a hard time seeing how a vaccine requirement would lose them any associates; surely substantially all biglaw associated have been vaxxed or would do so if it was an employment requirement.

It's really frustrating. Now 60% are vaccinated, but the confirmed cases and death tolls are surging. What are we gonna do... The vaccine clearly doesn't work as well as we thought.

[nixy]

The vaccines would work great if enough people took them to get us to heed immunity.

[Anonymous User]

The vaccines would work great if enough people took them to get us to heed immunity.

https://www.politico.eu/article/herd-im ... a-variant/

[nixy]

The vaccines would work great if enough people took them to get us to heed immunity.

https://www.politico.eu/article/herd-im ... a-variant/

Okay, let me revise my statement. The vaccines keep people from dying and out of hospitals, so if everyone would take them, they would still work by reducing/eliminating deaths and minimizing the impact of the disease. (And if everyone who could have gotten vaccinated did so, delta likely wouldn't have gained such a foothold.)

[Anonymous User]

The vaccines would work great if enough people took them to get us to heed immunity.

https://www.politico.eu/article/herd-im ... a-variant/

Okay, let me revise my statement. The vaccines keep people from dying and out of hospitals, so if everyone would take them, they would still work by reducing/eliminating deaths and minimizing the impact of the disease. (And if everyone who could have gotten vaccinated did so, delta likely wouldn't have gained such a foothold.)

Death is not the only concern. Long COVID sounds horrifying too.

[Anonymous User]

Wilmer pushed back from mid-sept to early-October at the soonest. No definite date yet though.